Re: moko13 firmware

2017-10-14 Thread Mychaela Falconia
Further on the subject of FCC type approval or lack thereof, your change log at: http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/calypso_moko_FW/all_version__CHANGELOG.txt lists "Pass the PTCRB certification" under moko5. Does it imply that there was no PTCRB certification and thus no FCC approval number

Re: moko13 firmware

2017-10-14 Thread Mychaela Falconia
Joerg wrote: > What will be your FCC approval number for [new GTA02 clones] There will be one if someone pays for it, or none otherwise. > what IS the FCC approval number (and URL to the publicly available FCC > approval report) of the devices you already built? There is none. > Just asking

Re: moko13 firmware

2017-10-14 Thread joerg Reisenweber
On Tue 10 October 2017 12:38:54 Mychaela Falconia wrote: > I forgot to add: > : Option 3: new production of Neo FreeRunner (GTA02) verbatim clones. > > If people do desire to see new production of verbatim GTA02 clones > that differ from FIC-made ones only in the manufacturing dates and the >

Re: moko13 firmware

2017-10-13 Thread Mychaela Falconia
Stefan Monnier wrote: > Why would someone do that? I mean this as a real technical question: > what is the difference between 2G and 3G which would cause someone to > take a stand against 3G? The difference is that for GSM/2G there exists a practically usable

Re: moko13 firmware

2017-10-13 Thread Stefan Monnier
> And how many people have responded to this shutdown plan by taking a > vow to live without any cellphone at all instead of accepting 3G/4G > when such shutdown happens? Why would someone do that? I mean this as a real technical question: what is the difference between 2G and 3G which would

Re: moko13 firmware

2017-10-13 Thread Bob Ham
On 2017-10-12 17:42, Mychaela Falconia wrote: Bob Ham wrote: then the FreeCalypso firmware is not based on OM's historical firmwares. Therefore, the statement regarding the recently released moko13 firmware update was not false. The person I was refuting did not

Re: moko13 firmware

2017-10-12 Thread Mychaela Falconia
Bob Ham wrote: > then > >the FreeCalypso firmware is not based on OM's historical firmwares. > > Therefore, the statement regarding the recently released moko13 > firmware update was not false. The person I was refuting did not say that the new fw is not based on OM's

Re: moko13 firmware

2017-10-12 Thread Bob Ham
On 2017-10-10 21:16, Mychaela Falconia wrote: On Tue Aug 29 01:05:29 UTC 2017 Joerg Reisenweber wrote regarding the recently released moko13 firmware update: Please carefully note that this update is not based on the original licensed firmware for Openmoko devices, This statement is false,

Re: moko13 firmware

2017-10-11 Thread Mychaela Falconia
H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > Well, with necessary funding Goldelico would be mass producing a GTA17 > this year which would beat the latest iPhones and alike in quality, > user-experience, functionality and openness. The amount of funding I would need in order to turn my

Re: moko13 firmware

2017-10-11 Thread H. Nikolaus Schaller
> Am 11.10.2017 um 09:26 schrieb Mychaela Falconia > : > > H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > >> So let merephrase: how do you think to get someone pay for it? > > By spreading the message as far and wide as I can that making new > Calypso phones

Re: moko13 firmware

2017-10-11 Thread Mychaela Falconia
H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > So let merephrase: how do you think to get someone pay for it? By spreading the message as far and wide as I can that making new Calypso phones and modems (be they GTA02 clones or semi-clones, or my proposed Libre Dumbphone, or my proposed FC

Re: moko13 firmware

2017-10-11 Thread H . Nikolaus Schaller
> Am 11.10.2017 um 08:17 schrieb Mychaela Falconia > : > > Sure, if someone pays for the cost of making new moulds. So let merephrase: how do you think to get someone pay for it? ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: moko13 firmware

2017-10-11 Thread Mychaela Falconia
H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > I wonder where you want to get all the tiny glue components from... > > E.g. toppoly display, The last time I looked a few months ago, they were readily available from AliExpress. > pogo pins for speakers, Are you talking about the ones on the

Re: moko13 firmware

2017-10-10 Thread H. Nikolaus Schaller
> Am 10.10.2017 um 22:16 schrieb Mychaela Falconia > : > > Option 3: new production of Neo FreeRunner (GTA02) verbatim clones. I wonder where you want to get all the tiny glue components from... E.g. toppoly display, pogo pins for speakers, speakers, vibramotor,

Re: moko13 firmware

2017-10-10 Thread David Arnold
> On 11 Oct 2017, at 10:46, Mychaela Falconia > wrote: > > David Arnold wrote: > >> FWIW, I think the last 2G network in Australia is shutting down in >> March 2018 (following the December 2016 and August 2017 closure of >> the other two

Re: moko13 firmware

2017-10-10 Thread Mychaela Falconia
David Arnold wrote: > FWIW, I think the last 2G network in Australia is shutting down in > March 2018 (following the December 2016 and August 2017 closure of > the other two networks). And how many people have responded to this shutdown plan by taking a vow to live without any

Re: moko13 firmware

2017-10-10 Thread David Arnold
> On 11 Oct 2017, at 07:16, Mychaela Falconia > wrote: <…> > We are definitely interested in hearing which of the above might be of > interest to people, if any. FWIW, I think the last 2G network in Australia is shutting down in March 2018 (following the December

Re: moko13 firmware

2017-10-10 Thread Mychaela Falconia
I forgot to add: : Option 3: new production of Neo FreeRunner (GTA02) verbatim clones. If people do desire to see new production of verbatim GTA02 clones that differ from FIC-made ones only in the manufacturing dates and the identity of the manufacturer, and someone steps forward to fund such,