Re: Unofficial poll: / 3G Network Sheepshearing

2008-04-11 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I myself am also much closer to Hugo. If I want access to data, I'm | usually near someplace with wireless access and would rather use Wifi I have a little experience recently with 3G data access... it

Re: Who is who ?

2008-04-11 Thread Lucas Bonnet
Philippe Guillebert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Since I'm also French, maybe if some more people fill these pages we could meet somewhere (in Paris ?) and dream about GTA02 ;) (Sorry to hijack the thread.) In case some Frenchies here didn't see the announce:

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-11 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Anyways, I guess that for GTA02 you could always get one of those usb-3g | modems and use it. The problem will probably be the usual where to get | linux drivers for something like that. The one I got is

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA03?

2008-04-11 Thread Ivo Anjo
Personally, I'm one of those who don't have a data plan, and that most of the times are in range of wifi access, but in my opinion the next OM should have at least wifi and HDSPA 3G or something like that. I don't think it's very useful to consider wimax because currently you see that nowhere,

GTA02 USB Power (WAS: Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA 03?)

2008-04-11 Thread Federico Lorenzi
Hmm, thats very cool indeed, although [1] and the original announcement of it do say 100ma. I guess I'll go out and edit them Cheers, Federico [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED

Re: accelerometer thought

2008-04-11 Thread Ortwin Regel
Good idea as long as it's easy to turn it off. On 4/11/08, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 11 April 2008 03:12:45 Joe Pfeiffer wrote: It occurred to me as I was thinking about use cases that a setting in which the phone would be on vibrate while vertical (as in

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA 03?

2008-04-11 Thread Federico Lorenzi
Don't you mean 100ma, or has the converter been upgraded? In any case running a device that draws 500ma off a 1200mah battery... Cheers, Federico -- Mail sent from a SE P990 Reply Header Subject:Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed

Re: accelerometer thought

2008-04-11 Thread ewanm89
On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:05:38 +0100 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 11 April 2008 03:12:45 Joe Pfeiffer wrote: It occurred to me as I was thinking about use cases that a setting in which the phone would be on vibrate while vertical (as in clipped to my belt) and

Re: Unofficial poll: Do you want 3G in the proposed successor, GTA 03?

2008-04-11 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Don't you mean 100ma, or has the converter been upgraded? In any case | running a device that draws 500ma off a 1200mah battery... I never heard about a 100mA proposal: the converter in GTA02 is not only

Re: accelerometer thought

2008-04-11 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Friday 11 April 2008 03:12:45 Joe Pfeiffer wrote: It occurred to me as I was thinking about use cases that a setting in which the phone would be on vibrate while vertical (as in clipped to my belt) and ring when horizontal (as in lying on a table) would suit my typical use about 99% of the

Re: accelerometer thought

2008-04-11 Thread Tim Shannon
Sounds like a good idea, except for people who carry their phone in a bag, but definitely useful as an option nonetheless. On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 5:57 AM, Ortwin Regel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good idea as long as it's easy to turn it off. On 4/11/08, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL

RE: accelerometer thought

2008-04-11 Thread Crane, Matthew
Brilliant. Would provide an excellent starting point from which further and possibly more sophisticated profile switching on accelerometer feedback. Matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Pfeiffer Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 9:13 PM

Re: accelerometer thought

2008-04-11 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Ortwin Regel writes: On 4/11/08, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 11 April 2008 03:12:45 Joe Pfeiffer wrote: It occurred to me as I was thinking about use cases that a setting in which the phone would be on vibrate while vertical (as in clipped to my belt) and ring

Re: accelerometer thought

2008-04-11 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Tim Shannon writes: Sounds like a good idea, except for people who carry their phone in a bag, but definitely useful as an option nonetheless. Sure -- I was careful to say *my* use! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Synchronization

2008-04-11 Thread ramsesoriginal
This topic was discussed a while ago, and I didn't heard anything about it since then (but since I missed a month or two it can already be clear by now.. I for myself don't know). I am speaking about the synchronization between the phone and other devise, could it be PC, a MAC, another phone, or

Re:Synchronization

2008-04-11 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
ramsesoriginal writes: This topic was discussed a while ago, and I didn't heard anything about it since then (but since I missed a month or two it can already be clear by now.. I for myself don't know). I am speaking about the synchronization between the phone and other devise, could it be PC, a

Re:Synchronization

2008-04-11 Thread David Pottage
On Fri, April 11, 2008 3:57 pm, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: ramsesoriginal writes: [snip] ... I am speaking about the synchronization between the phone and other devise, could it be PC, a MAC, another phone, or even just Google calendar. Which way of synchronization has been chose? Which standards?

Re: Synchronization

2008-04-11 Thread ramsesoriginal
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 5:25 PM, David Pottage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, April 11, 2008 3:57 pm, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: ramsesoriginal writes: [snip] ... I am speaking about the synchronization between the phone and other devise, could it be PC, a MAC, another phone, or even just

RE: Who is who ?

2008-04-11 Thread steve
we actually wanted to promote local groups so we created a special product for them -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Philippe Guillebert Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 12:11 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Who is

FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

2008-04-11 Thread steve
I thought I would combine a couple posts today. First an update on PVT, or production verification test. Phones are being sent to me from the first PVT run. Michael Shiloh will be back in Silicon valley next Tuesday, so he and I will test the samples and get them out to key partners. I want to

Re: Unofficial poll: / 3G Network Sheepshearing

2008-04-11 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
Well put! I could not agree more. It is expensive to use wireless internet connection over the mobile network. I understand the reasons and the providers. They have several reasons for the high prices: - The network is not designed for so much traffic and will break down if everybody look at

RE: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

2008-04-11 Thread Crane, Matthew
Very reasonable. Is there any chance you guys could update your website to take Amex? Matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of steve Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 12:51 PM To: 'List for Openmoko community discussion' Subject:

Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

2008-04-11 Thread Andrea Debortoli
what about EUROS prices?? I hope that no 1:1 change will be applied... thanks a lot for the news!! Andrea 2008/4/11, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I thought I would combine a couple posts today. First an update on PVT, or production verification test. Phones are being sent to me from the

Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

2008-04-11 Thread Kevin Dean
Excellent, thanks for the update! On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:50 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought I would combine a couple posts today. First an update on PVT, or production verification test. Phones are being sent to me from the first PVT run. Michael Shiloh will be back in

Re: Data over normal GSM call

2008-04-11 Thread Stefan Misch
Hi, I just talked about this issue with a colleague who uses an HTC PDA with windows mobile. For the data connection he uses a dial-up connection as a modem. He doesn't have a data plan but a flat fee for voice calls into land lines. He says he gets about up to 4K/s which is not much of

Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

2008-04-11 Thread Kevin Dean
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Andrea Debortoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what about EUROS prices?? IF, and this is an IF, it works as it did with the GTA01, the USD price is technically incorrect. When i paid, it charged my debit card for $309 worth of Taiwan dollars. I would imagine that your

Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

2008-04-11 Thread Ivo Anjo
Thanks for the update, looking forward to having a neo of my own :) Ivo On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 6:50 PM, Kevin Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Andrea Debortoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what about EUROS prices?? IF, and this is an IF, it works as it did with

Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

2008-04-11 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
this is the news we all have been waiting for:) And it is a very nice price also. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

2008-04-11 Thread James Olney
Thanks for the update, sounds good, but what about the UK? and Europe? Many thanks, james On 11/04/2008, Ivo Anjo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the update, looking forward to having a neo of my own :) Ivo On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 6:50 PM, Kevin Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On

Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

2008-04-11 Thread Jens Fursund
Fantastic! Looking forward to it! On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 8:30 PM, James Olney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the update, sounds good, but what about the UK? and Europe? Many thanks, james On 11/04/2008, Ivo Anjo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the update, looking forward

Listening to music/podcasts

2008-04-11 Thread Jens Fursund
Hi Freerunners! I was wondering if anyone know if it is possible to answer a call from a headset while listening to music/podcasts. As in the music/podcast stops and the call takes over by a click on the answer/hangup button on the headset. Furthermore it would be great if we could implement a

FW: Mobile Analytics - April 28th

2008-04-11 Thread Dean Collins
Just in case anyone on the OpenMoko list is in NY this might interest you as well. Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-212-203-4357 Ph +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial). From: Dean Collins Sent: Friday, 11

Re: Openmoko strives for openness

2008-04-11 Thread Ian Stirling
Sorry for the delay in commenting, not been keeping up with the MLs. Michael Shiloh wrote: snip - Merge the debug board function on to the phone, perhaps with internal micro USB used for debricking and hacking. No write-once memory. - Discard U-Boot, minimal bootloader direct to kernel

Re: Synchronization

2008-04-11 Thread Tim Knapp
Hi Ramses, On Fri, 2008-04-11 at 18:17 +0200, ramsesoriginal wrote: snip / And here I think of something: many people use web-based applications. Is there also a plan to sync with those? Has anyone tried using Conduit[1]? AFAIK it's slanted to be included in the next version of Gnome.

Re: Data over normal GSM call

2008-04-11 Thread Ian Stirling
Diego Fdez. Durán wrote: snip Can't you initiate a voice call between to FreeRunners and then use the mic and mixer devs to modulate the data as sound? Broadly yes. The problem is: A human making mobile - mobile call looks something like this. 1 microphone 2 analog-digital converter 3 GSM

Re: Listening to music/podcasts

2008-04-11 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On 4/11/08, Jens Fursund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Freerunners! I was wondering if anyone know if it is possible to answer a call from a headset while listening to music/podcasts. As in the music/podcast stops and the call takes over by a click on the answer/hangup button on the headset.

Re: Unofficial poll: / 3G Network Sheepshearing

2008-04-11 Thread Ian Stirling
Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote: Here we pay about 4 USD per MB after we used up the 20MB we get each month (that we payed 60 monthly USD for). We can get a unlimited (only limited by the speed of 380kb/s) for 100 USD/month. To compare, 100Mb/s sync fiber (unlimitedd, and with IP phone,

Re: Unofficial poll: / 3G Network Sheepshearing

2008-04-11 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On 4/11/08, Ian Stirling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote: Here we pay about 4 USD per MB after we used up the 20MB we get each month (that we payed 60 monthly USD for). We can get a unlimited (only limited by the speed of 380kb/s) for 100 USD/month. To

Re: Listening to music/podcasts

2008-04-11 Thread Jens Fursund
Glad you like the idea. Actually I thought that the answer call/hang up - feature was something that every headset was able to control. I have never used headsets so it is a first for me. On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 9:47 PM, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/11/08, Jens

Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

2008-04-11 Thread Matt Manjos
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:50 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. Pricing We scrubbed the BOM ( bill of materials). We eliminated the Luxurious bits. Optimized the box like it was code. The first thing we got rid of was the lunchbox. It was cool, but it was expensive and heavy.

next costumers location

2008-04-11 Thread Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano
What about a nice wiki page telling if you want to buy a neo where do you live and an email to contact? This could be useful to take the advantage to buy 10 neo at a time and then giving it to each one who was accorded. Let me explain, i want a neo, i'm from italy, near milan, marco (usual

Re: Price of the Freerunner spare parts

2008-04-11 Thread Martin
I missed the answer, if any, to this. Is the "Gooseneck" Car Holder still available? regards Martin Peter Trapp wrote: On Donnerstag, 27. März 2008, steve wrote: Maybe I just create a "spares" product? with 3 batteries, and some other goodies thrown in? What goodies would

Re: next costumers location

2008-04-11 Thread Andrea Debortoli
2008/4/11, Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What about a nice wiki page telling if you want to buy a neo where do you live and an email to contact? This could be useful to take the advantage to buy 10 neo at a time and then giving it to each one who was accorded. Let me explain, i

Re: next costumers location

2008-04-11 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:46 AM, Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did one here : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales Maybe it would be better to use the Local groups pages ( http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Category:OpenMoko_Local_Groups ) to organize group sales...

Re: next costumers location

2008-04-11 Thread Alexander Frøyseth
Have made a Group sale for Bodø, Nordland in Norway now. We are two from here Alexander Frøyseth Steven Le Roux skrev: I did one here : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 11:38 PM, Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Group Sales (was : Re: next costumers location)

2008-04-11 Thread Steven Le Roux
More explicit with the subject On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 8:08 PM, Alexander Frøyseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have made a Group sale for Bodø, Nordland in Norway now. We are two from here Alexander Frøyseth Steven Le Roux skrev: I did one here :

Smart LCD birght/dim...

2008-04-11 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Since Freerunner won't have an hardware light sensor to set its LCD brightness, I got some ideas about smartly changing the luminance of the GTA02 screen to save its battery (still with an unknown life time :/). Of course they aren't and never will be precise as an hardware sensor is, but it's

Re: next costumers location

2008-04-11 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano ha scritto: What about a nice wiki page telling if you want to buy a neo where do you live and an email to contact? This could be useful to take the advantage to buy 10 neo at a time and then giving it to each one who was accorded. Let me explain, i want a neo, i'm from

Re: Smart LCD bright/dim...

2008-04-11 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Ops... Sorry for the title typo :P -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Smart LCD birght/dim...

2008-04-11 Thread Jason Self
On Apr 11, 2008, at 5:50 PM, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you think about them? With the absence of a hardware sensor, I think this is a good starting point. ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Smart LCD birght/dim...

2008-04-11 Thread Nick Guenther
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since Freerunner won't have an hardware light sensor to set its LCD brightness, I got some ideas about smartly changing the luminance of the GTA02 screen to save its battery (still with an unknown life time :/).