2008/5/8 Mo Abrahams [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Maybe I am just naïve, but in a community like this I doubt that there
will be anybody with malicious intent, I would be semi-willing to
purchase phones before receiving money for them, and would also trust
another purchaser with my money before
Just to clarify, NB would run on a desktop computer, and cross compile for OM.
I'm imagining a situation not unlike CW for Palm (I had to dev on that
a few years ago). It compiles the code and uploads it to the
emulator, which you can run the debugger on. Then you upload it to
your OM device,
Can the display/video card recognize two planes (a BG and an FG) .. If yes,
it would be very easy to overlay one (FG )onto the other and the app/driver
generating the video(FG) data need not worry abt graphics FB and delegate
the job of combining to the hardware ?
Is this a possibility on the
My Idea was this:
Openmoko can manage all the orders and to receive the payments: they can
build a sites, that collect the orders, and with an option to indicate
to which Sales Group to receive (Update in real time with the number of
allocated phones).
The person that is available to
So what you really want is for the OM store to give a 10% discount.
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 3:52 AM, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My Idea was this:
Openmoko can manage all the orders and to receive the payments: they can
build a sites, that collect the orders, and with an option to
Well, i don't want to make any flame/spam/anything-like-that, just a
question to clarify how is the situation. Well, on the neo freerunner
there will be the 3d capable chip which has its spec under NDA so it's
impossible for anyone not in the OM company to implement the 3d driver
and API
On Thu, May 8, 2008 7:17 am, Robin Paulson wrote:
it's not just the trust thing; it's for when things go wrong. there
are many possible slip-ups between california and my house, and i
would prefer knowing that if the unpredictable happens, we're all
covered, and know where we stand.
and
On Thursday 08 May 2008 10:23:30 Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano wrote:
Well, i don't want to make any flame/spam/anything-like-that, just a
question to clarify how is the situation. Well, on the neo freerunner
there will be the 3d capable chip which has its spec under NDA so it's
impossible for
On Thu, 8 May 2008 13:16:37 +0530 Vishwas P S [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
Can the display/video card recognize two planes (a BG and an FG) .. If yes,
it would be very easy to overlay one (FG )onto the other and the app/driver
generating the video(FG) data need not worry abt graphics FB and
On Thu, 08 May 2008 10:23:30 +0200 Pietro \m0nt0\ Montorfano
[EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
Well, i don't want to make any flame/spam/anything-like-that, just a
question to clarify how is the situation. Well, on the neo freerunner
there will be the 3d capable chip which has its spec under NDA so
OK. In that case how do we prevent tearing of images on the screen ? i.e.
how do we implement a tearing-less display solution ?
Normally as far as I know, /dev/fb's memory would be mapped to apps and
there is no way for the driver to sync memory updates with Vsync ... Pl
correct me if I'm wrong
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all,
we are prepare create the openmoko fans site, if anyone interest it ,or any
ideal please tell me!
the doman name is www.openmokofans.com
Luther
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no.
This is a clear answer X-D
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On Thu, 8 May 2008 14:20:28 +0530 Vishwas P S [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
OK. In that case how do we prevent tearing of images on the screen ? i.e.
how do we implement a tearing-less display solution ?
Normally as far as I know, /dev/fb's memory would be mapped to apps and
there is no way for
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 5:05 PM, David Samblas Martinez
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
no.
This is a clear answer X-D
What does X-D mean?
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For openmok there is no difference, except than to pay x9 more payment fee.
I think if someone steal some money to some person, the damage of OM
image will cost a lot more !
Lally Singh wrote:
So what you really want is for the OM store to give a 10% discount.
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 3:52
vinci! In palio ogni giorno buoni sconto da 50 per soggiorni in
tutto il mondo ed estrazione finale di una Citroen C1
Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=7802d=20080508
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buoni sconto da 50€ per soggiorni in
tutto il mondo ed estrazione finale di una Citroen C1
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Answered out the list
--- Bin Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 5:05 PM, David Samblas
Martinez
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--- Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
escribió:
no.
This is a clear answer X-D
What does X-D mean?
A big thank you for all those who pre-booked the Freerunner at the highly
discounted price of INR 15399/-. All the discounted slots are now full and
the Freerunner can now only be booked form our website at the actual retail
price of INR 20,000/- inclusive of shipping and all taxes. (In case there
Hi Rakshat,
It is sad to know that discounted slots are full.
I just starting looking in to openMoko recently, and never knew
about discount. Gook luck to me in future.
Do you have any idea about as to when we can start booking
free-runner on the website (has the booking already
not working...
Kosa
- Un mundo mejor es posible -
luther escribió:
all,
we are prepare create the openmoko fans site, if anyone interest it ,or any
ideal please tell me!
the doman name is www.openmokofans.com
Luther
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not working for me either... slashdotted?
On Thu, 2008-05-08 at 08:53 -0500, Kosa wrote:
not working...
Kosa
- Un mundo mejor es posible -
luther escribió:
all,
we are prepare create the openmoko fans site, if anyone interest it ,or
any ideal please tell me!
the doman name is
So you think that in 2-3 weeks freerunner will be ready for us?
I can't wait anymore...:)
thanks
Il giorno gio, 08/05/2008 alle 18.20 +0530, Kunal Singh ha scritto:
Hi Rakshat,
It is sad to know that discounted slots are full.
I just starting looking in to openMoko recently, and
hi michele
Michele Renda wrote:
For openmok there is no difference, except than to pay x9 more payment fee.
i beg to differ. the whole handling would make the gain of readily
packaging 10-packs and ship these en bloc to one dest. vanish.
so larry is right. thats like requesting 10% generic
My guess is that it's not up yet; he's yet to create it, and asking for our
input as to what it should have.
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 9:03 AM, Mo Abrahams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
not working for me either... slashdotted?
On Thu, 2008-05-08 at 08:53 -0500, Kosa wrote:
not working...
Kosa
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 5:17 PM, Joachim Steiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hi michele
Michele Renda wrote:
For openmok there is no difference, except than to pay x9 more payment fee.
i beg to differ. the whole handling would make the gain of readily
packaging 10-packs and ship these en bloc
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| hi michele
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| Michele Renda wrote:
| For openmok there is no difference, except than to pay x9 more payment fee.
| i beg to differ. the
Yea, there's all kinds of ways that people use every day to transact
with others who they've no way of meeting or even calling on the phone.
If you are concerned, then maybe the price to fix the concern is to just
order the phone individually.
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A site like that would be great if it followed something like
sourceforge.net, plus some discussion forums.
Maybe we already have this sort of stuff, and (yet again), I'm clueless?
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Ryan Prior [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My guess is that it's not up yet; he's yet to
On Thu, 2008-05-08 at 14:53 -0400, Lally Singh wrote:
A site like that would be great if it followed something like
sourceforge.net, plus some discussion forums.
Like this: http://projects.openmoko.org/ ?
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Assuming that Steve's last timelines are semi-accurate, unless more
interest is generated by the end of the month, the Los Angeles group
only has 4 interested parties -- would the other Southern California
groups be willing to combine if none of us can reach enough orders for
the 10-pack
Excellent!! Now all we need are discussion forums.
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Kim Alvefur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 2008-05-08 at 14:53 -0400, Lally Singh wrote:
A site like that would be great if it followed something like
sourceforge.net, plus some discussion forums.
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 7:25 PM, Gilbert Hartmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Michele Renda wrote:
| For openmok there is no difference, except than to pay x9 more payment
fee.
| i beg to differ. the whole handling would make the gain of readily
| packaging 10-packs and ship these en bloc to
Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote:
Please do not ask for this. It would give OM so much extra work. The reason
for the 10-pack deal is that since it saves OM time and money, we get
a discount.
If you want OM to handle individual payments for group orders, they would
have much work with arranging
Lally Singh ha scritto:
Just to clarify, NB would run on a desktop computer, and cross compile for OM.
I'm imagining a situation not unlike CW for Palm (I had to dev on that
a few years ago). It compiles the code and uploads it to the
emulator, which you can run the debugger on. Then you
There is no need to use this tone. I already apologize about my idea. It was
only an idea. I was not knowing that it was so difficult and so expensive
for Openmoko.
Also I want a GTA04, and also I want that OM employers are focused only in
their work.
Sorry
It was only an idea to improve
Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote:
Don't worry! No problem :)
I don't know what is happening, but I see in Internet also I a lot of
person speaking with no-understandable comparations with other phone,
watching more what is missing on this phone, and not what there is already.
And in the end
Is there any chance I can join your group and ask you
or the one who gets the babies to ship one to me to
the Mexico City?
I have some friends who want to get one, but they
want to see it before buying it, and I think there won't
be a mexican group this time.
Thanks
Kosa
- Un mundo mejor es
I've never shipped anything to Mexico, but I know from experience that
shipping to Canada can cost extra money with customs, etc., so if that's
the same with Mexico, you might be better off buying a single unit?
Anyone else know?
Kosa wrote:
Is there any chance I can join your group and ask
And according me Openmoko is doing in hardware what Linux made in
software! And it is great.
Same feeling here!!!
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Well yes, I will have to pay 15% of the value of the Freerunner,
but they don't need to know that the real value of the Freerunner
is 400 dollars. You could send it as a very low cost device and I
won't pay that much for taxes. I've done that before.
Besides, I really want the pouch an the
For something worth that much money, I don't see the point in declaring
its value as less than the purchase price plus shipping -- if you
declare it as a $100 phone and it gets broken or lost/stolen, you'd only
be able to file an insurance claim for the $100 declared value and lose
the extra
| And according me Openmoko is doing in hardware what Linux made in
| software! And it is great.
Same feeling here!!!
OM is doing some very important things. The thing which is most important
to me, is if they can make all HW producers write their drivers in GPL and
provide all the
haha. this will make you laugh.
Like this in miniature mounted vertically on the back panel. backwoods geek!
http://www.rodmounts.com/
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Very Nice,
Long ago worked on a 90 million dollar flight sim with 20 men in the loop
and lots of AI. If you ever played falcon 4.0 then you played against my
aircraft AI. But 10K players is insane. Sounds very cool.
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Yes your phone has an identifying number. So every phone will be covered,
regardless of how you buy it.
We will cover DOA for 14 days on single phones and 28 days on phones shipped
in 10 packs.
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production will start in the next week or so
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Subject: OpenMoko GTA02 status
Hello,
What's the status with OpenMoko GTA02?
Is it in
You're welcome matt. When the product hits the floor in Fremont California
I will drive to the wharehouse. I will review the incoming QA. And then
I will announce to you guys, open the shop and take orders.
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I think the only caveat to this for the Freerunner is the lack of
datasheet from SMedia for the GPU which makes 3D impossible. Rather
unfortunate.
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware#Graphics.2F3D_Acceleration
And then we will buy each other a tall cold beer, and brace for the
flood
steve wrote:
You're welcome matt. When the product hits the floor in Fremont California
I will drive to the wharehouse. I will review the incoming QA. And then
I will announce to you guys, open the shop and take
Dear All:
Attached file is the top 100 content of wiki.
Period:Since 1,april to 07,May.
Brenda
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Hey all,
I'm randomly getting a second
Thanks Brenda that's very interesting. Would it be possible to get some
more stats just out of interest? Possibly ones for country of origin
(Map Overlay), traffic sources etc? Or am I asking too much...
-Nick
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Attached file is the top 100 content of wiki.
Hey,
Some joker just called me at home ( he must of got my number from a press
release) and burned up 30 of my cell minutes asking me the same question.
Mass Pro is slated to start between may9 and may 16. Steve's rule say add a
week. Then you got test, then you shipping.
On Monday ( or maybe
Bingo!
When Sean and I discussed this idea we didn't want to force any kind of
arrangement on groups. People are free to join and establish their own terms
between each other.
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Well put Roh.
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Subject: Re: questions for steve regarding group purchases
hi michele
Michele
The 10 pack will have to be ordered by one person. It will ship to that
persons location.
Now, how will people arrange to do this? I thought long and hard about this.
And then I realized that some people will find one way, one guy pays and
others promise to pay him. Some people will find another
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steve writes:
haha. this will make you laugh.
Not if you're a fisherman... though I've got rod holders I like a lot
better.
Like this in miniature mounted vertically on the back panel. backwoods geek!
http://www.rodmounts.com/
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steve wrote:
Mass Pro is slated to start between may9 and may 16. Steve's rule say add a
week. Then you got test, then you shipping.
On Monday ( or maybe Sunday night for my EU friends ) I will do an update.
Could you also include status of debug boards? Will they go on sale at
the same
I think there were ten total between all Ca.
(last I looked)
We (my work) ships to Mexico City (SantaFe Shopping Center - Parking)
Customs is very SLOW right now...it could easily be 4 weeks from shipping to
delivered, no matter how you ship it.
We have a guy who crosses border at TJ and then
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