Nkoli wrote:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Having worked in Open-Hardware for over 15 years now, I was, in fact,
expecting a much more coherent strategy for the software platform on
Freerunner than just let the
I think my first project will be called MokoBingo! (with the
exclamation mark!)! It will check the mailing list on a regular basis
and the Freerunner will make a squeaky noise when any of the
following terms are encountered:
heh heh .. please do this! :)
;
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Jay, your negative posts on this ML do nothing but foster an
unpleasant atmosphere. Last I checked, no one put a gun to your head
and forced you to buy or design for the FR. If you're tired of
waiting for the device to become stable, sell the phone and check
back again in about a
And while Openmoko is working on their own framework, I have to agree
with many other voices: knowing which platform to develop for, as a
developer myself, is confusing. I don't like the thought of having to
write multiple versions of an application that caters to GTK and Qt
separately,
If you need a benevolent dictator to lead, why not become one
yourself?
Because there is one already, he just doesn't have any power to make
smart design decisions because of some new-age hippy-dippy faff.
If you need standards why not make them? This is not a responsibility
of the
Paul Buede wrote:
Hey, I was looking at the wiki but could not find something that laid
the steps out for me.
I have been messing with the default image, and have it upgraded as of
yesterday. I want to check out the ASU image. Whats the best way to do
that? I don't have anything in the
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 01:08 +0200, Kristian 'kriss' Mueller wrote:
Am Dienstag, den 29.07.2008, 00:46 +0200 schrieb Marcus Bauer:
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 15:33 -0700, steve wrote:
Of course!!! Every toolkit is allowed.
The whole point about FSO is to free people to pick their toolkit!
Jay, your negative posts on this ML do nothing but foster an
unpleasant atmosphere
Actually I disagree a bit here. Jay is not trolling but just saying
where he's trying to come from.
Thank you Kalle .. no, I'm not trolling, yes I am voicing a strong
opinion, yes I do think the Freerunner is
steve wrote:
If you want to start a wiki about OM. Sean is the CEO, I am the VP of
marketing, Wolfgang is the VP of Engineering. we announced this a long
while ago in the press.
First attempt: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Employees
Based on review of all press releases at
Lisa wrote:
~ Folks,
~ I don't need a major design statement for my phone...I just want
a (mostly) working phone. There is a point where taking one more thing
away doesn't make it simpler any longer, it makes it hard to figure
out/work on. Not having a terminal in ASU ( the general
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Marcus Bauer wrote:
FSO is the brainchild of Dr. Michael Lauer, fresh from the university's
ivory tower but lacking any industry experience. It is reinventing the
wheel and drains lots of ressources that are needed elsewhere inside of
Openmoko.
It worked for a few times, but has now gone silent. Maybe it will get
more stable.
BillK
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 20:14 -0700, Scott Petersen wrote:
W.Kenworthy wrote:
Certainly sounds like the same problem.
BillK
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 21:14 -0500, Steven ** wrote:
Do you have it
Hi,
Thanks a lot to all of you guys for helping on this...especially Ajith and
Rakshat
I have done following things.
1. Connected Neo to Windows XP SP2 machine
2. Installed neo1972.inf file
3. Assaign IP Address and Subnet mask to the conection
4. Downloaded dfu-util.exe and
On Monday 28 July 2008, arne anka wrote:
I have the same issue (not always but sometimes),.. and this comes
probably not from GSM network messages...
Because it happens over and over again (once this issue happens).
i've gotten the impression that the acceleration sensors play an
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 17:14 -0700, ian douglas wrote:
And while Openmoko is working on their own framework, I have to agree
with many other voices: knowing which platform to develop for, as a
developer myself, is confusing.
This is exactly the point. Openmoko should be like Ubuntu:
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| On Monday 28 July 2008, arne anka wrote:
| I have the same issue (not always but sometimes),.. and this comes
| probably not from GSM network messages...
| Because it happens over and over again (once this
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 23:28, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i've gotten the impression that the acceleration sensors play an
importanmt role.
it simply happens too often that i take the fr in my hands and it wakes up
-- too often at least to be purely conicidential.
Indeed I noticed
Most of these instructions i have pulled off the wiki or from other e-mails,
Do not hold me responsible if you brick your Freerunner while following
them.
Here is what has worked for me so far
First you want to get the newest ASU rootfs from
http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/
The
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
Dear Community
Design.
This is a long, careful response to Sean's Openmoko on Design post.
If one goes back to the beginning of the Terminal for ASU thread, what
you find is that several users were just getting things set up and
mostly working in ASU and then they
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Hello,
|
| How can I disable WiFi at PowerOn?
| It´s not nice to manually disable it after all Reboot.
I was staring at this code the other day... we just force it up during
machine init. It's expensive
A keyboard that always automatically knows when it is needed
sounds great in theory, but prior to that perfect keyboard being
implemented, what happened here was that users experienced a
degradation
in usability and had no obvious means of restoring the lost
functionality. They were
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| During a opkg upgrade apparently the network connection stopped
because the FR
| fell asleep (my rendition of what happened).
|
| After booting everything was fine, except that I cannot connect
anymore to
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 00:35 -0700, Brian C wrote:
[snip lots of very clever thoughts]
So, I'll ask again: does
Openmoko intend to allow direct code contributions by community members
to core components of the ASU/FSO frameworks?
It would be better to get rid of this whole framework concept
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 09:31, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Because it happens over and over again (once this issue happens).
| i've gotten the impression that the acceleration sensors play an
Hi,
I'm using the OM2007.2 on the Neo FreeRunner.
I wish to customize the Power button menu, i.e. I want a
menu item to go immediately to sleep, instead of using the
unreliable power management.
Of course I also need to know how to put the Neo on sleep... :-)
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Firenze -
Hi,
At the same time we heard comments from a key developer who indicated
that the decision was made above him by unnamed individuals with whom
the community has no obvious means of communication, and who apparently
don't even listen to the reasonable technical arguments of key
developers.
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 4:42 AM, Hans L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 1:21 PM, reaper527 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was wondering how people have generated their ringtones for use with the
openmoko. i ended up clipping mp3's and exporting them
as wav files using audacity on
Am Dienstag, den 29.07.2008, 08:23 +0200 schrieb Marcus Bauer:
The opposite is true. FSO forces you into ASU. It basically makes
all
work that has been put into OM2007.2 useless.
Please stop telling these lies.
Marcus, did I miss the irony here, or do you really believe this?
Eildert Groeneveld wrote:
During a opkg upgrade apparently the network connection stopped because the FR
fell asleep (my rendition of what happened).
After booting everything was fine, except that I cannot connect anymore to
the
FR through USB.
If usb0 gets uped through ifconfig, I get
If you need a benevolent dictator to lead, why not become one yourself?
If you need standards why not make them? This is not a responsibility
of the Openmoko team. They already gave us the damn thing to build it
all on. This really is the job of the community. Stop whining and start
doing the
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:23:41 +0200, Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
No developer who is sane in his mind will want to marry a whole PIM API
just for sending an SMS. And FSO is essentially a newly invented,
unstable and immature PIM API. This is so much like Microsoft.
And there are
On Tuesday 29 July 2008, Niccolo Rigacci wrote:
Of course I also need to know how to put the Neo on sleep... :-)
apm -s
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Hi,
Is there a way to run a GTK application under Qtopia ?
Some kind of GTK-Qt bridge... a way for GTK to write to Qtopia
framebuffer instead of X
... or X writes to framebuffer ?
... or whole screen control switches from framebuffer to X while this app runs ?
I think I have seen somewhere a
Hi,
Am Dienstag, den 29.07.2008, 08:54 +0100 schrieb Andy Green:
Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Hello,
|
| How can I disable WiFi at PowerOn?
| It´s not nice to manually disable it after all Reboot.
I was staring at this code the other day... we just force it up during
Hi Michael
Am Mittwoch, den 23.07.2008, 09:49 -0700 schrieb Michael Shiloh:
[...]
At Linuxworld in two weeks I will have perhaps half a dozen phones at
our two booths, and I would love to showcase on each of these one or
more of your creations.
* Any interesting FR-to-FR apps?
* In case
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 08:23:29AM +0200, Marcus Bauer wrote:
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 01:08 +0200, Kristian 'kriss' Mueller wrote:
Am Dienstag, den 29.07.2008, 00:46 +0200 schrieb Marcus Bauer:
The opposite is true. FSO forces you into ASU. It basically makes all
work that has been put
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| Hi,
|
| Am Dienstag, den 29.07.2008, 08:54 +0100 schrieb Andy Green:
| Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| | Hello,
| |
| | How can I disable WiFi at PowerOn?
| | It´s not nice to manually disable
On 29 Jul 2008, at 09:23, Marcus Bauer wrote:
...
Openmoko should concentrate on kernel and driver work, power
management
and working hardware and a basic set of apps. ...
+1
As Openmoko push more open hardware out the door, people will come
running to do cool stuff on it.
It's the
Hi,
Scott schrieb:
[snip]
I was under the impression that OpenMoko is a company about selling a
mobile phone not a community Wiki ...
Regards
Robert
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Disable Wifi at boot (cause its on by default)
my suggestion is to drop in an `echo 0 /sys/wlan/dev`
the exact location? i dunno but here lets findout
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# find /sys |grep power |grep eth0
/sys/devices/pnp0/00:01/net/eth0/power
/sys/devices/pnp0/00:01/net/eth0/power/wakeup
Hi,
Jay Vaughan schrieb:
[snip]
This does not work. That is all.
As Sean already said. You are only speaking for yourself.
I am glad that OpenMoko is not just another half-open half-closed effort
that once thought: Oh look Linux. It doesn't cost a dime. Let's make
something that is flashy
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:39:32PM +1000, Lorn Potter wrote:
Qtopia runs the /opt/Qtopia/bin/ppp-network script.
Ok, now I know where to look.
I have fixed a few things I could see, but
haven't yet tested:
//depot/qtopia/main/devices/ficgta01/src/devtools/scripts/ppp-network#2
oh my bad i didnt read that correctly , its way past my bedtime anyway
Disable Wifi at boot (cause its on by default)
my suggestion is to drop in an `echo 0 /sys/wlan/dev`
the exact location? i dunno but here lets findout
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# find /sys |grep power |grep eth0
On Tuesday 29 July 2008, Marek Lindner wrote:
Hi,
At the same time we heard comments from a key developer who indicated
that the decision was made above him by unnamed individuals with whom
the community has no obvious means of communication, and who apparently
don't even listen to the
hi,
i am trying to get a low level compiling enviroment onto the freerunner.
my problem is, i don't have access to a cross compiling enviroment in
the next
3 weeks. so i have to compile everthing directly on the freerunner.
I know, it's a bit slow :) .
To make the starting easyer i would like
Hi,
I got it done. thanks a lot.
Thanks
Bijoy
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From: bijoy franco
Sent: 29/07/08 12:10 pm
To: support, Openmoko, sparkymat, Ajith, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
community, openmoko
Subject: Flashing Qtopia using Windows XP SP2.
Hi,
Thanks a lot
2008/7/29 Marek Lindner [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi,
At the same time we heard comments from a key developer who indicated
that the decision was made above him by unnamed individuals with whom
the community has no obvious means of communication, and who apparently
don't even listen to the
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Cédric Berger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Is there a way to run a GTK application under Qtopia ?
Some kind of GTK-Qt bridge... a way for GTK to write to Qtopia
framebuffer instead of X
... or X writes to framebuffer ?
... or whole screen control switches
Hello John,
thanks for taking the time for writing your answer.
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 18:38 +0800, John Lee wrote:
Part of my current work requires me to use fso daily. It seems
strange that what I know seems to be different from what you know.
* fso does not force you to ASU or closely
Sound came back the next wakeup and no problems since. A bonus is the
whole FR seems more stable.
Thanks,
BillK
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 14:51 +0800, W.Kenworthy wrote:
It worked for a few times, but has now gone silent. Maybe it will get
more stable.
BillK
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 20:14
Why do the latest ASU folders not have the kernel or root file system files?
Scott
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I have to agree with Kalle Jay,
While i part of me would like to see a nailed down platform with a clear
definition of tools, UI standards, platform support, documentation
standards(one I've been yelling about recently) I also understand OM's
struggle to produce a viable open source product
This does not work. That is all.
As Sean already said. You are only speaking for yourself.
I am not alone in my view.
I am glad that OpenMoko is not just another half-open half-closed
effort
that once thought: Oh look Linux. It doesn't cost a dime. Let's make
something that is flashy
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:24:50PM +1000, Lorn Potter wrote:
Ole Kliemann wrote:
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 12:13:05PM +, Ole Kliemann wrote:
I'm trying to send an MMS with Qtopia. I set up GPRS and WAP through the
GUI, but it did not work; the network interface failed to start when
Charles,
While that is a means of bringing the keyboard button back, thats just
too damn hard! And I have to do that all over again if I upgrade!
Needs to be a simple configuration setting.
Scott
Charles-Henri Gros wrote:
You mean like this?
A phone without usable documentation is a door stop.
Scott
Robert Schuster wrote:
I was under the impression that OpenMoko is a company about selling a
mobile phone not a community Wiki ...
Regards
Robert
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Moreover the '800 pound gorilla' OM is developing its own
gps software and I'm not spending my energy competing with it.
OM2007.2 is there, it works and I recommend everybody to develop for it.
Best regards,
Marcus
Not to start a flame war but even I would like to know why Openmoko with
3 weeks. so i have to compile everthing directly on the freerunner.
I know, it's a bit slow :) .
If you organize your project properly, you won't really be limited by
slow compile times ..
btw : i am using a ASU image, and opkg list doesn't come up with
git or coreutils.
As far as I
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Jay Vaughan wrote:
I'm glad OpenMoko has as many rabid fanboix as other projects, it
means there is hope yet ..
Usually I am not too much disposed to moderation in a ML, but now I am
started to think:
In these two days you wrote around 15 email
Am Dienstag 29 Juli 2008 15:28:56 schrieb rakshat hooja:
Moreover the '800 pound gorilla' OM is developing its own
gps software and I'm not spending my energy competing with it.
OM2007.2 is there, it works and I recommend everybody to develop for it.
Best regards,
Marcus
Not to
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:39:32PM +1000, Lorn Potter wrote:
Ole Kliemann wrote:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 07:57:01PM +, Ole Kliemann wrote:
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 06:32:18PM +, Ole Kliemann wrote:
Jul 28 16:29:29 om-gta02 user.notice Qtopia: Network : starting pppd
(non-demand)
A phone that NEEDS documentation is a POS.
In my mind, the Neo won't be ready for end-users unless I can give it
to one of my co-workers and they can figure almost everything out
without documentation.
-Steven
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A phone without
Hi,
pulster got new phones on 25.07. Has anyone of those who already paid for the
phone got a message that their phone is already sent to them?
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Unfortunately not, I am still waiting.
christian
Am Dienstag, den 29.07.2008, 16:32 +0200 schrieb kazaam:
Hi,
pulster got new phones on 25.07. Has anyone of those who already paid for the
phone got a message that their phone is already sent to them?
rakshat hooja wrote:
Moreover the '800 pound gorilla' OM is developing its own
gps software and I'm not spending my energy competing with it.
OM2007.2 is there, it works and I recommend everybody to develop for it.
Best regards,
Marcus
Not to start a flame
Steven ** wrote:
A phone that NEEDS documentation is a POS.
In my mind, the Neo won't be ready for end-users unless I can give it
to one of my co-workers and they can figure almost everything out
without documentation.
Then your co-workers should get iPhones! I thought OpenMoko was for
is there any way to mark a missed call as seen?
for example on my old phone, if i got a missed call, i would get
notification on the main screen, and then hitting a button would take me to
the list of missed calls, and the phone would acknowledge i looked at the
calls, and it would stop
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 8:20 AM, Steven ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A phone that NEEDS documentation is a POS.
In my mind, the Neo won't be ready for end-users unless I can give it
to one of my co-workers and they can figure almost everything out
without documentation.
-Steven
If you were
I am no one to tell to you how to use your time, but I personally
thing
that continuing to use your time to repeat how many stupid things
Openmoko do, and complaining how many fanboy there are, is not the
best
way to help this project. Then do you what do you think is better!
I don't
reagrding debian on freerunner -- is there a way to access the gsm modem,
ie to make/recieve calls, send/recieve sms and use gprs?
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On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 8:48 AM, Luke Scharf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
Then your co-workers should get iPhones! I thought OpenMoko was for
those of us who would embrace a machine with a learning-curve for extra
capability. Probably the same crowd who uses Linux on the desktop.
snip
I
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 15:46 +0200, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
Am Dienstag 29 Juli 2008 15:28:56 schrieb rakshat hooja:
Moreover the '800 pound gorilla' OM is developing its own
gps software and I'm not spending my energy competing with it.
Not to start a flame war but even I would
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
from tangogps. Moreover the '800 pound gorilla' OM is developing its own
gps software and I'm not spending my energy competing with it.
OM2007.2 is there, it works and I recommend everybody to develop for it.
Marcus,
On Tuesday 29 July 2008, reaper527 wrote:
is there any way to mark a missed call as seen?
for example on my old phone, if i got a missed call, i would get
notification on the main screen, and then hitting a button would take me to
the list of missed calls, and the phone would acknowledge i
kazaam schrieb:
Hi,
pulster got new phones on 25.07. Has anyone of those who already paid for the
phone got a message that their phone is already sent to them?
hi,
here not :(
christian
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On Tuesday 29 July 2008, Christian Weßel wrote:
Unfortunately not, I am still waiting.
A friend of mine got a message (as a reply) basically saying:
Due to bad weather in Taiwan (all offices closed) the delivery of the
phones is behind schedule.
Cheers,
Florian
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You misunderstand. A PHONE should need no documentation. The Neo is
more than a phone. So, some features may need some documentation.
But the phone part of it should just work.
But really, I'm having trouble thinking of a feature I would use
regularly that would be acceptable to require
Just to let you know: I really like Tango GPS.
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Tim Coggins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
from tangogps. Moreover the '800 pound gorilla' OM is developing its own
gps software and I'm not
Maybe you are not happy because you think it's just a phone. To me
it's a complete programmable handheld computer which happens to have a
GSM phone feature. The phone is a fairly insignificant feature for
some of us. If all you want is a phone, go to the supermarket, they
have really nice ones
Start with the software fix. It should slove the problem.
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To: community@lists.openmoko.org
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I`ve done this with a samsung handy (sorry, it was not ericsson), exactly with
the SGH-D600.
The battery was the standard, here the S/N: NH1YB02CS/-5 and some other infos;
TYPE: 3.7V. Li-ion
Model: BST4389BE
It`s a battery integrated in the cover (see attachment)
Marco
Ursprüngliche
I am using the phone for daily use and do not have problems with placing or
receiving calls, nor sending or receiving SMS messages.
Charles
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 3:27 PM, david pais [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
is this phone usable for daily light phone use (about 30-60 min/ day) or
have the
I`ve done this with a samsung handy (sorry, it was not ericsson), exactly with
the SGH-D600.
The battery was the standard, here the S/N: NH1YB02CS/-5 and some other infos;
TYPE: 3.7V. Li-ion
Model: BST4389BE
It`s a battery integrated in the cover (see attachment)
Marco
Ursprüngliche
There is no need to decide between the two. To each his own.
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Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 3:47 PM
To: List for Openmoko community discussion
Subject: Re: update to quickstart user guide
On Jul 29, 2008, at 2:33 PM, William Kenworthy wrote:
I had the same issue and found that mwester had a solution has
worked
for me for a while now.
http://moko.mwester.net/fixes.html
I still have suspend resume issues but this works most of the time.
Sound came back the next wakeup and
Okay -- I see your perspective and I agree but I think people are
calling it a phone because that's a convenient handle. For my 10
minute test yesterday it worked just like a phone. I dialed, it
connected. It rang, I answered. Another 10 minutes and I'd probably
know how to answer on the first
I've set up an ATT pay-as-you-go plan, and I'm able to send/receive calls and
text messages.
(I had to wiggle the sim card for the phone to recognize the att network: a
hardware flaw that's been discussed to death.)
Which ATT data plans are compatible with the Freerunner?
There's a ton of them
Cédric Berger wrote:
Does it work for some of you ?
Well... I can't neither find where I can configure my email! :o
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I got a message from Christoph on 24th confirming the arrival of the
Neos, an another one on 25 saying tha he is working on our delivery
scheduling it on monday 28th but waiting for tracking number yet.
be patience ;)
El mar, 29-07-2008 a las 16:32 +0200, kazaam escribió:
Hi,
pulster got new
Please see Daniel Willmann's announcement for more details.
Cheers,
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:M:
Thanks for the reply and my apologies if I mis-understood something/ got the
facts wrong . I will wait for Daniel Willmann's announcement.
@Marcus - My main job is to sell the Neo ( I work for a distributor) and
Torfinn Ingolfsen schrieb:
But qpe still crashes / fails:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ps ax | grep qpe
1346 ?S 0:00 /usr/bin/app-restarter The qpe process
vanished. This is bad.?This is not meant to happen and is likely a
sign of?a bug in Qtopia. Please try to reproduce it and?report
I have just submitted this problem for qtopia bug tracker... (not accepted yet)
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 18:11, Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Cédric Berger wrote:
Does it work for some of you ?
Well... I can't neither find where I can configure my email! :o
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Am Dienstag 29 Juli 2008 18:19:32 schrieb rakshat hooja:
Please see Daniel Willmann's announcement for more details.
Cheers,
--
:M:
Thanks for the reply and my apologies if I mis-understood something/ got
the facts wrong . I will wait for Daniel Willmann's announcement.
It has been
On Tuesday, 29. July 2008 19:19:10 Al Johnson wrote:
Whether the term is 'key developer' or just 'a developer' is irrelevant.
The issue is the total lack of communication over removal of a function
many in the community, not to mention said developer, have good technical
reasons to see as
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 16:26 +0100, Tim Coggins wrote:
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
from tangogps. Moreover the '800 pound gorilla' OM is developing its own
gps software and I'm not spending my energy competing with it.
OM2007.2 is there, it
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 21:49 +0530, rakshat hooja wrote:
@Marcus - My main job is to sell the Neo ( I work for a distributor)
and tangoGPS is the application that impresses my clients (and me) the
most (even though we hardly have OSM data for India!). I would love to
see it continue to be
Pawel Kowalak wrote:
On Jul 29, 2008, at 2:33 PM, William Kenworthy wrote:
I had the same issue and found that mwester had a solution has
worked
for me for a while now.
http://moko.mwester.net/fixes.html
I still have suspend resume issues but this works most of the time.
You'll probably need the PDA Personal plan, that's what they recommend
to smartphone users, which the Freerunner will qualify as, in their opinion.
But GPRS data transfer is still being worked on, so hold off paying the
$30/month for unlimited data just yet.
-id
Dimitri wrote:
I've set up an
David Samblas schrieb:
I got a message from Christoph on 24th confirming the arrival of the
Neos, an another one on 25 saying tha he is working on our delivery
scheduling it on monday 28th but waiting for tracking number yet.
be patience ;)
El mar, 29-07-2008 a las 16:32 +0200, kazaam
My understanding is that it's marketing BS and there isn't much (if
any) difference between those unlimited data plans. The difference
seems to be what ATT is willing to sell you. If you have a crappy
old phone, they'll sell you a cheap data plan because they figure you
won't use it. If you
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