Re: GPRS / Wifi

2008-08-11 Thread Mike Baroukh
Thanks for your reply. But I still not agree. which means of communications hould the fr chose? configuration will say it. the user ordered is preferences. Maybe depending on price. Maybe depending on performance. so it's not really automatic (and had nothing to do with the keyboard problem ;)

Freerunner available in Vancouver

2008-08-11 Thread Justin Wong
Hi, I'm willing to sell my Freerunner. While it's a great piece of hardware and the software is catching up, it looks like I don't have as much time as I originally thought. Someone else could probably contribute more than I can. The condition is like new. I only opened it for like two days and

Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08? - SOLVED ?

2008-08-11 Thread Olivier Berger
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:10:20 +0200 Olivier Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: DooD [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmm figured out why my above fix was only working on my asu build and not my om2008.8 need to install

My summary from LinuxWorld

2008-08-11 Thread Jeremy Chang
Hi, I forward my trip report from LinuxWorld here. :) Best Regards, Jeremy Chang - Forwarded message from Jeremy Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 16:18:59 +0800 From: Jeremy Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: [gta02] My summary from

Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

2008-08-11 Thread Michele Renda
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ship with nothing and everyone put what want So nobody can say it is not a complete software :) steve wrote: Good question. Here are the options. 1. Ship with 2007.2. Basicaly a dialer that works. bare bones phone. 2. Ship with Qtopia. A

Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
Hi, As Google Summer of Code 2008 is almost at its end, here's a video showing what you should expect out of the accelerometer-based gestures project: http://digg.com/gadgets/Openmoko_Neo_Freerunner_Motion_Gestures_Screen_Orientation_2 There still are some things that need to be worked on for

Re: Kernel and Dual booting

2008-08-11 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Mikael Berthe wrote: | | Or is there a way to prevent opkg from flashing the kernel? It would be | nice to upgrade /uImage.bin instead! | | I don't know of a way to do this at the moment, but it would be a

Re: Battery Charger on usb kaput on 2008.8?

2008-08-11 Thread Andy Green
://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080809/ but they aren't in 20080811 dir, bit confusing. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkif79kACgkQOjLpvpq7dMoBhwCgjwjA7nrZJh2pYilolp83iQSk

Re: Om 2008.8 Multiverse repository bug

2008-08-11 Thread Julian Chu
On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 03:25:53PM -0700, abatrour wrote: I noticed while editing a part on the wiki that the url for the multiverse repository (/etc/opkg/Multiverse-feed.conf) for Om 2008.8 was wrong. src/gz daily-Multiverse http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/multiverse The

Re: Moving my 2007.2 to SD to try 2008.8 with fallback solution

2008-08-11 Thread Jay Vaughan
Will report in case of success. Great! It'd be pretty nice if we could come up with an installable app that will just do the Copy from Flash to SD and re-configure to boot from SD process for an end user. I'd find it quite useful - as a matter of fact I prefer to have my entire system on

Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

2008-08-11 Thread Jay Vaughan
Ship with nothing and everyone put what want So nobody can say it is not a complete software :) Ship with *all* available distributions on the *SD Card*, and include a script that lets you copy your desired distribution to flash once you've checked them all out .. ; -- Jay Vaughan

Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

2008-08-11 Thread Yorick Moko
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ship with nothing and everyone put what want So nobody can say it is not a complete software :) Ship with *all* available distributions on the *SD Card*, and include a script that lets you copy your desired distribution

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Flyin_bbb8
GREAT JOB!!! very well done... keep up the great work Paul!! +1 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

2008-08-11 Thread Tilman Baumann
steve wrote: Good question. Here are the options. 1. Ship with 2007.2. Basicaly a dialer that works. bare bones phone. 2. Ship with Qtopia. A solid full featured smart phone. 3. Ship with OM2008.8 An alpha release of our future phone. 4. Ship bare metal and let the users choose. Why

Om 2008.8 on Golem

2008-08-11 Thread Kolja Dummann
Hi Folks, i found a review of the Om 2008.8 on Golem. It is only in German. http://www.golem.de/0808/61637.html So have fun with it ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: receiving SMS messages

2008-08-11 Thread Tim Erwin
If the phone is in standby, and I receive a text message, the phone wakes up but does not receive a text message. The person sending the message does, however, receive a delivery report. This occurs in both images as well. This is now fixed in the latest qtopia image 080808 (haven't tried the

Re: GPRS / Wifi

2008-08-11 Thread arne anka
If I take a concrete example : my ~/.wgetrc. i wan't to connect to internet - from home, with wifi, I have direct access to internet. - from work, with wifi, I must use a proxy. - from outside, I must use GPRS with another proxy. It's easy to make a script that will update .wgetrc. why

Re: New Qtopia-Images fixes suspend problem nearly complete!

2008-08-11 Thread arne anka
It didn't occur to me to mount the card ro, but I will try it and see if it helps. not sure if it will help -- but why not unmount the sd card on suspend and remount on resume? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: GPRS working (somewhat) with T-Mobile and Freerunner

2008-08-11 Thread Norbert Hartl
I gave it a try, too! I have a t-mobile flat rate which I use from my laptop. I just copied the file to the freerunner altered /etc/group as you supposed. My files look like this: /etc/ppp/peers/t-mobile --- user tm connect /usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/ppp/connect-t-mobile

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.8

2008-08-11 Thread Norbert Hartl
Hi, I read the post about the new review for the freeunner on golem. While reading I wondered what screenshots they used in a text announcing the new firmware. A few moments later I followed the link to the wiki page for Om2008.8. I think the screenshots on the page should show what you get

No pin dialog/ qpe

2008-08-11 Thread Norbert Hartl
What is qpe exactly doing? I noticed a lot of problems other people reporting like the no pin dialog. Looking at the device qpe uses 100% CPU for a long time. I don't understand it but the CPU usage of qpe is capable to slow down other things extremely. The SIM Pin dialog is working with the new

Initrd partition for fix kernel and modules possible incompatibilities by upgrade

2008-08-11 Thread Tomasz Czapiewski
I've been thinking about this since some time and I'd like to know why don't you make one more partition with initrd which would have some needed modules and basic scripts for proper complete OpenMoko boot (for example: g_ether etc. - I don't know which modules are used in boot process - my FR

Re: No pin dialog/ qpe

2008-08-11 Thread Lorn Potter
Norbert Hartl wrote: What is qpe exactly doing? I noticed a lot of problems other people reporting like the no pin dialog. Looking at the device qpe uses 100% CPU for a long time. I don't understand it but the CPU usage of qpe is capable to slow down other things extremely. The SIM Pin

A little zenity-gui for flashing images to the neo

2008-08-11 Thread Rorschach
Hi, I was bored and just wrote a little zenity-gui for flashing images to the neo: http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/391300/ . For the zenity-gui you need of course zenity and a bash-shell. To make the progress-bar work you need to patch dfu-util: $ diff dfu-util/src/sam7dfu-old.c

Re: No pin dialog/ qpe

2008-08-11 Thread Rorschach
Thanks Norbert very much for finally finding the real problem with the pin dialog not appearing! Removing this makes the pin-dialog appear for me with !!every boot!! now ca. 15-20 sec after x started. Before this patch the pin-dialog just appeared 1 out of 40 boots! This is a big improvment.

Re: Initrd partition for fix kernel and modules possible incompatibilities by upgrade

2008-08-11 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I've been thinking about this since some time and I'd like to know why | don't you make one more partition with initrd which would have some | needed modules and basic scripts for proper complete OpenMoko

Re: No pin dialog/ qpe

2008-08-11 Thread arne anka
If Qtopia is not allowed to search the SD card, it will not be able to see/use files on it, so then why have it at all? wouldn't it be sensible to have some flag or checksum indicating that the card and it's content are unchanged, thus preventing unnecessary searching? i do not use qtopia, so

Re: Where is it?

2008-08-11 Thread Julian Chu
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 07:08:15PM +0200, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Am Sonntag 10 August 2008 17:46:22 schrieb Scott: I used the spiffy new installer to install xterm. The install went without any errors. Where is it? Its not on the main page? Its listed in the uninstall list of

Re: No pin dialog/ qpe

2008-08-11 Thread Norbert Hartl
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 21:01 +1000, Lorn Potter wrote: Norbert Hartl wrote: What is qpe exactly doing? I noticed a lot of problems other people reporting like the no pin dialog. Looking at the device qpe uses 100% CPU for a long time. I don't understand it but the CPU usage of qpe is

Re: No pin dialog/ qpe

2008-08-11 Thread Norbert Hartl
Thanks! But your proposal is a bit harsh for me :) You just need to put 0 to the config items in section SD Card. That solves it as well. Norbert On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 13:35 +0200, Rorschach wrote: Thanks Norbert very much for finally finding the real problem with the pin dialog not

Re: No pin dialog/ qpe

2008-08-11 Thread Norbert Hartl
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 13:41 +0200, arne anka wrote: If Qtopia is not allowed to search the SD card, it will not be able to see/use files on it, so then why have it at all? wouldn't it be sensible to have some flag or checksum indicating that the card and it's content are unchanged, thus

Re: FR, browser and matchbox-keyboard

2008-08-11 Thread Christian Weßel
Am Samstag, den 09.08.2008, 09:12 -0700 schrieb Charles-Henri Gros: How can I activate the keyboard? Or how can I automate the appearance at selection of an enter field? Depending on what distribution you're running, see: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ASU_Keyboard_Toggle or

Feed updates

2008-08-11 Thread Norbert Hartl
Since the release of Om2008.8 there were IMHO no further updates over the feeds. Is this caused by the hard-earned rest of the exhausted developers or has development switched to a dev branch/feed? Norbert ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: FR, browser and matchbox-keyboard

2008-08-11 Thread arne anka
I did the second method successfully, but now I don't have the other icons (wifi, BT, battery, etc.) in the upper line. did you restart X or reboot? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: GPRS / Wifi

2008-08-11 Thread Mike Baroukh
for the proxy: as someone mentioned before -- there is a global variable defining the proxy . Does this mean that I have to re-start my applications when I connect ? Not optimal ... Anyway do you know who put this variable ? And where to configure it's value ? Mike arne anka a écrit :

Re: FR, browser and matchbox-keyboard

2008-08-11 Thread Christian Weßel
I tried to restart the X but that failed with an unreadable repeating error message. Afterwards I had to reboot. Am Montag, den 11.08.2008, 14:17 +0200 schrieb arne anka: I did the second method successfully, but now I don't have the other icons (wifi, BT, battery, etc.) in the upper line.

Re: Using openocd

2008-08-11 Thread xiangfu
Lynn Nguyen wrote: I believe so. I used the openocd.cfg that is given on the wiki. I've even followed the steps here: http://svn.openmoko.org/developers/werner/notes/openocd which seem to be legit. The step I get stuck on is running openocd. I think maybe there is something wrong with the

Re: Kernel and Dual booting

2008-08-11 Thread DooD
To prevent opkg from upgrading the kernel try: opkg flag hold kernel-2.6.24 opkg flag hold kernel-image-2.6.24 Altho i think you only need to block the kernel-image-2.6.24 After getting a neo1973 kernel and a bad kernel that wouldnt boot from opkg, i do all my kernel upgrades with the

Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08? - SOLVED ?

2008-08-11 Thread Rorschach
And glad some nice soul added details to : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8_Keyboard#Using_the_Full_Qwerty_keyboard Nice but after a reboot the fullqwerty has again disappeared and I have just the old keyboard back. I even lost the Full-QWERTY.kbd file?? It isn't there anymore. Where

Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08? - SOLVED ?

2008-08-11 Thread Yorick Moko
I could reboot and still have the full querty... On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Rorschach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And glad some nice soul added details to : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8_Keyboard#Using_the_Full_Qwerty_keyboard Nice but after a reboot the fullqwerty has again

Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08? - SOLVED ?

2008-08-11 Thread Rorschach
huh: after a second reboot the full-qwerty was back again?? this is confusing.. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: GPRS / Wifi

2008-08-11 Thread Mike Baroukh
i don't think so -- checking the proxy variable should be transparent to the apps and done by which layer is responsible for managing th connection. indeed, if the variable is only in environnement, you must restart. Also, I'm still not sure that there is a variable. Who can set it ? Only pam

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Ross Woodruff
Dont have my freerunner yet but that really is a great bit of work, keep it up, can see this being really useful, only criticism some of the gestures seems to be a little, well, over the top, I mean, if I was on the bus and I started doing the Z shape for example people would think what I was

Re: No pin dialog/ qpe

2008-08-11 Thread Esben Stien
arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: wouldn't it be sensible to have some flag or checksum indicating that the card and it's content are unchanged inotify -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i .

Re: No pin dialog/ qpe

2008-08-11 Thread arne anka
wouldn't it be sensible to have some flag or checksum indicating that the card and it's content are unchanged inotify does inotify tell you if the card was manipulated outside the fr? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: New Qtopia-Images fixes suspend problem nearly complete!

2008-08-11 Thread Olivier Migeot
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 12:00 PM, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not sure if it will help -- but why not unmount the sd card on suspend and remount on resume? What if you've got some processes running of that SD card? You'll need to kill them before unmounting the card. And then, your

Re: New Qtopia-Images fixes suspend problem nearly complete!

2008-08-11 Thread arne anka
What if you've got some processes running of that SD card? You'll need to kill them before unmounting the card. we're speaking of a workaround, do we? And then, your suspendresume will look more and more like shutdownrestart. why, atm it looks more like shutdown reinstall ...

Re: What will be in GTA03?

2008-08-11 Thread Joachim Steiger
Pritam, Ghanghas (IE10) wrote: Hi All I had put this wish list once but no one considered that I guess. Is it that stupid? At least give your review guys. OMAP3530 http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/omap3530.html I see lot of benefits from this shift Camera

Re: New Qtopia-Images fixes suspend problem nearly complete!

2008-08-11 Thread Pawel Kowalak
On Aug 11, 2008, at 12:00 PM, arne anka wrote: It didn't occur to me to mount the card ro, but I will try it and see if it helps. not sure if it will help -- but why not unmount the sd card on suspend and remount on resume? It's not that easy. But IIRC somebody on OLPC tracker stated

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Martin Šenkeřík
I suggest more discreet gestures, like was the shaking one. I understand it is harder to recognize them and not to recognize them by accident in normal use. But what about starting recognizing only with pressed AUX button? You can replace actual function of locking screen by much more where one of

Re: No pin dialog/ qpe

2008-08-11 Thread Norbert Hartl
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 15:01 +0200, arne anka wrote: wouldn't it be sensible to have some flag or checksum indicating that the card and it's content are unchanged inotify does inotify tell you if the card was manipulated outside the fr? No, inotify is an observer at runtime.

Re: What will be in GTA03?

2008-08-11 Thread Daniel Benoy
While we're on the topic of hardware wishlist stuff, I'd like to throw in my two cents ^.^ - Hot swapable SD card slot - External wifi antenna connector (Mmmm war driving) - Official openmoko car charger (That gives me 1A without having to futz around) Also, I'd like the camera idea to be an

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Norbert Hartl
Wow, that is great!!! How fine grained is the resolution of the movements? I mean how detailed you could draw a shape on the screen from the figure you painted in the air? Or even better. Do you think it would be possible to do something like palms grafiti without knocking your neighbor out? :)

Re: What's up with Openmoko store?

2008-08-11 Thread Baruch Even
* steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] [080811 04:39]: Yes, Our distributors are doing great business so we will continue to give them first access to new product. If you are in the US you can buy from Koolu, same price, same product, our partner. They don't seem to be selling the extras and

Re: What's up with Openmoko store?

2008-08-11 Thread Yorick Moko
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Baruch Even [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] [080811 04:39]: Yes, Our distributors are doing great business so we will continue to give them first access to new product. If you are in the US you can buy from Koolu, same price, same

Re: What's up with Openmoko store?

2008-08-11 Thread Federico Lorenzi
Koolu seems to be better then the direct shop for far away orders, only $60 CAD for shipping to ZA vs $120 from direct. Now to get my dad's credit card details Cheers, Federico On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Baruch Even [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] [080811 04:39]:

Re: Kernel and Dual booting

2008-08-11 Thread Mikael Berthe
* DooD [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-08-11 14:38 +0200]: To prevent opkg from upgrading the kernel try: opkg flag hold kernel-2.6.24 opkg flag hold kernel-image-2.6.24 I can do that, but I'd like to have the latest fixes anyway (esp. teh SD corruption fix as soon as there's one!). Altho i

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Joseph Reeves
Looks great! I've basically got the same questions as Norbert does. Plus I'd like to know how I can get me screen to auto-rotate ;-) Joseph 2008/8/11 Norbert Hartl [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wow, that is great!!! How fine grained is the resolution of the movements? I mean how detailed you could

Re: No pin dialog/ qpe

2008-08-11 Thread arne anka
inotify does inotify tell you if the card was manipulated outside the fr? No, inotify is an observer at runtime. thought so. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: GPRS / Wifi

2008-08-11 Thread Stroller
On 11 Aug 2008, at 10:52, arne anka wrote: ... all programs connecting to the net should be absolutely agnostic to the kind of connection you use. What about the mail application? Every 5 minutes it should only check for new messages if you're on your provider's own network, not when you

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Daniel Benoy
Hm. Didn't work when I tried your gesd-neo.sh script. No output. So, I tried the accelerometer test script here http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer_data_retrieval Still no output. Is there something I have to do to turn the accelerometers on? On Monday 11 August 2008 03:35:39

Re: What will be in GTA03?

2008-08-11 Thread Tim Schmidt
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Daniel Benoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think people will be willing to pay an extra $200 just to get a camera in there. Please do some research before making baseless comments. Camera modules do not cost $200. More like $10. Less in quantity. See

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Stroller
On 11 Aug 2008, at 08:35, Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: ... There still are some things that need to be worked on for the GUI, but I will release another package on Thursday/Friday with everything you've just seen in the YouTube video. Hi there, I'm slightly disappointed that the shaking

Re: GPRS / Wifi

2008-08-11 Thread arne anka
What about the mail application? Every 5 minutes it should only check for new messages if you're on your provider's own network, not when you are on holiday in Spain. i am afraid that's beyond the scope of the solution i outlined. though i guess as soon as the necessary informations are

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Daniel Benoy
On Monday 11 August 2008 11:00:50 Stroller wrote: On 11 Aug 2008, at 08:35, Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: ... There still are some things that need to be worked on for the GUI, but I will release another package on Thursday/Friday with everything you've just seen in the YouTube video.

zhone on the desktop?

2008-08-11 Thread Witoslaw Koczewski
Hi, I would like to learn FSO development by modifying zhone. Is there a way to run zhone on my ubuntu desktop or do I need to test on a neo device? Thank You, Witek___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Stroller
On 11 Aug 2008, at 16:12, Daniel Benoy wrote: ... I'm slightly disappointed that the shaking inbox wouldn't be accommodated by the gestures you've made available. http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2007/11/shoogle_gives_your_cellphone_b.html This use is even mentioned on the wiki page you link to

Re: 2008 WTF??

2008-08-11 Thread Clemens Kirchgatterer
Fredrik Wendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: / Fredrik Wendt, who also has the exact same device Scott has, as many others do too but doesn't scream WTF as soon his/her proclaimed non-finished device shows it's serious hickups thx, you speak from my heart. best regards ... clemens

Re: GPRS / Wifi

2008-08-11 Thread Stroller
On 11 Aug 2008, at 16:11, Mike Baroukh wrote: What about the mail application? Every 5 minutes it should only check for new messages if you're on your provider's own network ... I described how the Nokia N95 handles this in my post of 10 August 2008 13:30:19 BST (search for N95 in the

Re: strange problem with Intenso 4GB SDHC card

2008-08-11 Thread Joachim Steiger
Andy Green wrote: [...] Hey don't lose hope. There are two issues. First is just some big cards are too slow to respond at default 16MHz clock with Glamo 16-bit clock count timeout counter. See this https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1743 Suspend / resume (partition overwrite is

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Dale Maggee
Cool! Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: Hi, As Google Summer of Code 2008 is almost at its end, here's a video showing what you should expect out of the accelerometer-based gestures project: http://digg.com/gadgets/Openmoko_Neo_Freerunner_Motion_Gestures_Screen_Orientation_2 There still are some

python on FR, need a little help

2008-08-11 Thread Christian Weßel
Hello, for my notebook I found a very good NetworkManager spare called wicd (http://wicd.sourceforge.net/), it is a python based application to handle WLAN. I am a absolute python newbie. But this little appl. is pretty nice and I want to bring it up and running on FR. First I installed python

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Daniel Benoy
Sure does :) It will be important to maintain the ability to turn off default gesture handling, if the user wants to install some other handler. Although, the 'shaking inbox' thing described by the earlier poster would probably not conflict with gestures. Someone correct me if I'm wrong about

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Daniel Willmann
Hey, On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:35:39 +0200 Paul-Valentin Borza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As Google Summer of Code 2008 is almost at its end, here's a video showing what you should expect out of the accelerometer-based gestures project:

dfu_util and preflash-Backup

2008-08-11 Thread Christian Weßel
Hello I tried to save my rootfs by wiki's way (./dfu-util -a rootfs -R -U good-rootfs.jffs2) and failed after a lot of minutes and 246MB with dfu_upload error -108 My host reported: usb0: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-:00:0f.2-1, CDC Ethernet Device, ba:f3:e6:14:4a:e3 What's wrong? --

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Daniel Benoy
Ticket created. https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1808 On Monday 11 August 2008 10:50:11 Daniel Benoy wrote: Hm. Didn't work when I tried your gesd-neo.sh script. No output. So, I tried the accelerometer test script here http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer_data_retrieval

Re: python on FR, need a little help

2008-08-11 Thread Rorschach
What happenbs if you start wicd from the console? python wicd/daemon.py python wicd/gui.py ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: dfu_util and preflash-Backup

2008-08-11 Thread Mike Montour
Christian Weßel wrote: Hello I tried to save my rootfs by wiki's way (./dfu-util -a rootfs -R -U good-rootfs.jffs2) and failed after a lot of minutes and 246MB with dfu_upload error -108 Sorry, I don't know what that error means. However anyone wanting to use dfu-util -U should look at

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
Gestures don't work like this, I don't know the shape of the gesture. For each gesture, I have a model that I previously created. Each model competes to be recognized, and every time you make a move, the model with the highest probability is chosen. You can know the shape of the gesture only if

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
Those were some gestures that I thought were useful to use - due to lack of imagination for short gestures. If anyone can think to some short gestures, please tell me how these short gestures should look like, and I'll create them. We're not constraint to use those gestures, not at all. Paul On

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
Begin on AUX button can be implemented easily. The problem is that the framework on the Neo is really not there yet, because I would have liked it to associate some gestures with actual actions on the Neo. But I'll be working with John Lee, and Daniel to do that in the future. Also, the release

Re: GPRS working (somewhat) with T-Mobile and Freerunner

2008-08-11 Thread C R McClenaghan
There have now been several posts related to the successful use of GPRS on one or more of the software platforms - OM 200*.* and FSO - but not much discussion of how to multiplex voice and data calls. The FSO platform through it's mdbus/dbus interface seems to accomplish this. [1] below

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
Please wait till Thursday/Friday when I'll release the package with what you saw in the video :) The alpha release that is now for download is obsolete, as it's one month old. On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Joseph Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Looks great! I've basically got the same

Any information about illume and edj files available?

2008-08-11 Thread Rorschach
Hi, are there any informations about illume and how to create/modify edj files? I want to make assassin a normal application with a normal starter and without this starter always on the bottom but those useless +++ sign and this things. But it seems there are absolutly no information about

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
Yes, you'll be able to record, and train your own gestures; by running the Gestures app with the GUI. Of course, you get more flexibility in command line, that's how I do it, but you'll be able to do the same things in GUI mode. Gestures already use DBUS, system bus on org.openmoko.accelges (as

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
Your probably using an older version, since what you just saw in the video is not released yet :) I will release a package this week. try hexdump /dev/input/event2 and hexdump /dev/input/event3 and restart your Neo :) Paul On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Daniel Benoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
The fact that is currently undocumented is all my fault. Sorry for that - I'll catch up this weekend. Till then, I have to work on the release. Yes, there are 2 daemons, one that processes the gestures and sends signals on dbus, and a listener daemon that listens for gestures and runs the actions

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
The listener daemon doesn't start up automatically, only the one that recognizes gestures. For on, it just sends the recognized gesture, regardless of the context the phone is. Paul On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On 11 Aug 2008, at 16:12, Daniel Benoy wrote:

Re: Any information about illume and edj files available?

2008-08-11 Thread Julian Chu
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 06:04:59PM +0200, Rorschach wrote: Hi, are there any informations about illume and how to create/modify edj files? I want to make assassin a normal application with a normal starter and without this starter always on the bottom but those useless +++ sign and this

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-11 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
Daniel, As you know, I had problems with gestures.projects.openmoko.org and moved to http://accelges.googlecode.com Should I erase the project from gestures.projects.openmoko.org, or should I move back to *.projects and erase the one from googlecode. The bitbake is here

Re: Feed updates

2008-08-11 Thread Julian Chu
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 02:15:20PM +0200, Norbert Hartl wrote: Since the release of Om2008.8 there were IMHO no further updates over the feeds. Is this caused by the hard-earned rest of the exhausted developers or has development switched to a dev branch/feed? Norbert

Re: Any information about illume and edj files available?

2008-08-11 Thread Tick Chen
Hi Rorschach, It's a category of desktop file. Bar Please change the desktop file of assassin like this. --- /usr/share/applications/assassin.desktopThu Jan 1 01:00:00 1970 +++ /usr/share/applications/assassin.desktop.newMon Aug 11 09:24:56 2008 @@ -9,4 +9,4 @@ Icon=assassin

Re: python on FR, need a little help

2008-08-11 Thread Christian Weßel
Am Montag, den 11.08.2008, 17:58 +0200 schrieb Rorschach: What happenbs if you start wicd from the console? python wicd/daemon.py [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/tmp# python /opt/wicd/daemon.py/opt/wicd wicd daemon: pid 1894 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/volatile/tmp# lono wireless

Re: InvibleShield at ZAGG : swindling ?!?

2008-08-11 Thread Ilja O.
I've got confirmation @ Jul 24 Your item has been shipped message @ Jul 28 And received it today (11 Aug). That's in Europe. Quite slow, but you'll eventually get it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: New Qtopia-Images fixes suspend problem nearly complete!

2008-08-11 Thread Steven **
I did try this. It doesn't help. I added little scripts to /etc/apm/suspend.d and /etc/apm/resume.d. Unless there's someplace else those should be. I did find that slowing the SD clock (per ticket #1743 about the Intenso SD card issue) had a positive effect. Kinda. See

Re: dfu_util and preflash-Backup

2008-08-11 Thread Christian Weßel
I had a look at the ticket and I searched for a button to add information to it, sadly not found. I hope, that someone of the dfu_util developer will read here too. Am Montag, den 11.08.2008, 09:28 -0700 schrieb Mike Montour: Christian Weßel wrote: Hello I tried to save my rootfs by

Re: InvibleShield at ZAGG : swindling ?!?

2008-08-11 Thread Geoff Ruscoe
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 1:09 PM, Ilja O. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got confirmation @ Jul 24 Your item has been shipped message @ Jul 28 And received it today (11 Aug). That's in Europe. Quite slow, but you'll eventually get it. I got mine too. About the same time frame (here in

Re: Any information about illume and edj files available?

2008-08-11 Thread Rorschach
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 01:03:22 +0800 Tick Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rorschach, It's a category of desktop file. Bar Ahh okay many thanks for the information, I thought this would be done by edj and enlighment! Didn't knew the desktop-files are used for such things. I just know about

Re: Any information about illume and edj files available?

2008-08-11 Thread Lars Formella
Am Dienstag, den 12.08.2008, 00:46 +0800 schrieb Julian Chu: Hi Rorschach, You could try to use edje_decc to decompile edj file. rorschach, take a look at my site, decompile the files and play around with it :) http://52grad.de/.stuff/freerunner/ in my eye candy illume file, i disabled

Re: No pin dialog/ qpe

2008-08-11 Thread Lorn Potter
Norbert Hartl wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 21:01 +1000, Lorn Potter wrote: Norbert Hartl wrote: What is qpe exactly doing? I noticed a lot of problems other people reporting like the no pin dialog. Looking at the device qpe uses 100% CPU for a long time. I don't understand it but the CPU

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