Re: Help needed with GSM Geolocation without GPS

2012-11-06 Thread robin
Sounds good. I wonder what the trade-off is between implementing something like this from scratch for GTA04, and trying to integrate an existing partial solution such as GeoClue? hi neil, as far as I understand geoclue comprises a communication between a provider and your phone, so that

Re: Help needed with GSM Geolocation without GPS

2012-11-06 Thread robin
hi daniele, maybe you can help me with your code: what I get import dbus from dbus.mainloop.glib import DBusGMainLoop DBusGMainLoop(set_as_default=True) bus = dbus.SystemBus() gsm_device_obj = bus.get_object( 'org.freesmartphone.ogsmd', '/org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device' ) gsm_cell_monitor =

Re: Help needed with GSM Geolocation without GPS

2012-11-06 Thread Pascal Gosselin
Question: Is is possible to do cell-based location with an de-activated SIM ?I recall that many phones will allow for an Emergency Call (911 in North America) without an active subscription. Can the Cell ID (CID) be obtained on the GTA02 in such a situation ? -Pascal

Re: Help needed with GSM Geolocation without GPS

2012-11-06 Thread mauve
On 06.11.2012 13:52, Pascal Gosselin wrote: Question: Is is possible to do cell-based location with an de-activated SIM ?I recall that many phones will allow for an Emergency Call (911 in North America) without an active subscription. Can the Cell ID (CID) be obtained on the GTA02 in such a

Re: Help needed with GSM Geolocation without GPS

2012-11-06 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 16:01:21 + (UTC) robin spielr...@web.de wrote: Hi, I wanted to give the GSM location a try. So what I would like to acchieve in the end is: 0. GPS off 1. GSM Cells are detected 2. Triangulation takes place (I don't know yet if eg signal strength is used) 3.

Re: Help needed with GSM Geolocation without GPS

2012-11-06 Thread robin
I guess one could split the whole thing in three parts so it would be adaptable to both qtmoko and shr. I can only program in python and may add a sqlite data base. having read a bit more about triangulation, the task will be much more difficult than I though, but one will see. the three parts of

Re: Help needed with GSM Geolocation without GPS

2012-11-06 Thread mauve
On 06.11.2012 11:37, robin wrote: hi daniele, maybe you can help me with your code: what I get snip dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freesmartphone.GSM.DeviceFailed: OK any ideas why the call does not work? Because FSO supports getting the subsequent cell IDs, but the modem does not

Re: Help needed with GSM Geolocation without GPS

2012-11-06 Thread robin
so is there any other way to get this information? also I think that the openbmap logger which worked nicely on my gta02 was somehow able to get the neighbouring cells. but I might be mistaken. ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Help needed with GSM Geolocation without GPS

2012-11-06 Thread Daniele Forsi
2012/11/6 robin: so is there any other way to get this information? GetNeighbourCellInformation works on the GTA02, I used it the following code works for me, I just checked it with SHR-20101205, it used to work also on Debian but some update broke something, and I can't get it to work with

Re: Help needed with GSM Geolocation without GPS

2012-11-06 Thread robin
thanks I will give that a try. Does anyone know if there has been a major change with fso. I just installed cellhunter on shr and when I hit the button to get the cell the console gives while len(self.cell_la) 4: TypeError: object of type 'dbus.Int32' has no len() does anyone know about

Re: Help needed with GSM Geolocation without GPS

2012-11-06 Thread Daniele Forsi
2012/11/6 robin: Does anyone know if there has been a major change with fso. I just installed cellhunter on shr and when I hit the button to get the cell the console gives while len(self.cell_la) 4: TypeError: object of type 'dbus.Int32' has no len() you can find a patched version here (I

Re: Help needed with GSM Geolocation without GPS

2012-11-06 Thread robin
regarding qtmoko v48 and fso. does installing and using fso to get cell information mean that you fso then also takes over all the communication with the modem (eg. calls, and so on)? or can the qt-system and fso live in peace next to each other? ___

Open Hard/Software Workshop in Munich, Germany

2012-11-06 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
As in previous years there will be an open hard- and software development and meeting workshop (http://www.ohsw.de) in Munich, organized by local freaks coming from Zaurus, Openmoko, OpenPandora, GTA04, etc. Well, this time not really *in* Munich but in the town of Garching, which is just nearby

Re: Help needed with GSM Geolocation without GPS

2012-11-06 Thread Neil Jerram
robin spielr...@web.de writes: Sounds good. I wonder what the trade-off is between implementing something like this from scratch for GTA04, and trying to integrate an existing partial solution such as GeoClue? hi neil, as far as I understand geoclue comprises a communication between a

Re: Help needed with GSM Geolocation without GPS

2012-11-06 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 06 November 2012 15:29:52 mauve wrote: On 06.11.2012 11:37, robin wrote: hi daniele, maybe you can help me with your code: what I get snip dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freesmartphone.GSM.DeviceFailed: OK any ideas why the call does not work? Because FSO

Missing icons in current QtMoko git build

2012-11-06 Thread Neil Jerram
Radek wrote at https://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/commit/871fe7f2bd712311ff88f2ef9042eb3112d65b1a: + * Currently there is bug when generating qtopia_db.sqlite. As a result you + will se no icons in the application menu. As a workaround copy that db from + some older release: + +cp

Re: Help needed with GSM Geolocation without GPS

2012-11-06 Thread Radek Polak
On Tuesday, November 06, 2012 06:19:13 PM robin wrote: regarding qtmoko v48 and fso. does installing and using fso to get cell information mean that you fso then also takes over all the communication with the modem (eg. calls, and so on)? Yes, all the phone functions will use FSO dbus calls.

Re: Help needed with GSM Geolocation without GPS

2012-11-06 Thread Neil Jerram
robin spielr...@web.de writes: I guess one could split the whole thing in three parts so it would be adaptable to both qtmoko and shr. I can only program in python and may add a sqlite data base. having read a bit more about triangulation, the task will be much more difficult than I though,

Re: Help needed with GSM Geolocation without GPS

2012-11-06 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 06 November 2012 08:09:58 robin wrote: Sounds good. I wonder what the trade-off is between implementing something like this from scratch for GTA04, and trying to integrate an existing partial solution such as GeoClue? hi neil, as far as I understand geoclue comprises a

Re: Help needed with GSM Geolocation without GPS

2012-11-06 Thread robin
the patched version works nicely. thanks for pointing me there. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Help needed with GSM Geolocation without GPS

2012-11-06 Thread robin
does anyone know if the agps-onlinec works on SHR? because then one could already make use of the location of the main cell nearby to get the right coordinates for the assisted-gps query (one then needs gprs/wlan though and an account with u-blox). #!/bin/sh echo 1

Re: Help needed with GSM Geolocation without GPS

2012-11-06 Thread Radek Polak
On Wednesday, November 07, 2012 07:28:41 AM robin wrote: does anyone know if the agps-onlinec works on SHR? because then one could already make use of the location of the main cell nearby to get the right coordinates for the assisted-gps query (one then needs gprs/wlan though and an account