Re: Building a new totally free phone

2013-08-23 Thread Norayr Chilingarian
Nick, you raised very good questions. I believe, that we don't need GSM at all. I don't use it for two years now. When we use GSM we use carrier services. Can we be sure that carrier does not track us, don't record our calls etc? For instance, in my country secret service has direct access to

Re: Releasing GTA04 hardware source files (was: community Digest, Vol 353, Issue 3)

2013-08-24 Thread Norayr Chilingarian
Excuse me very much, I don't mean to offend anyone, I actually care about project a lot. I really appreciate the project and I would like to have a gta04 based device, probably tablet. It's just too expensive for me now. Recently I became a lucky owner of a freerunner, got one used, and need

Re: GTA04-N900 vel. Neo900

2013-08-26 Thread Norayr Chilingarian
I would say, maemo fremantle is great. if we could manage to make it free, i. e. rewrite it's non-free parts, and make it available on more platforms, like nexus, it'll be great. having free hardware in n900 case it good too. but first of all let's get working free, indeed free maemo. not the

Re: GTA04-N900 vel. Neo900

2013-08-28 Thread Norayr Chilingarian
Non-free maemo isn't redistributable. There's must be free maemo version. The existing version won't be possible to flash to gta-04 because it is currently not possible to do that. It's different hardware. Otherwise it won't be necessary to port SHR to n900, that's obvious. So, in order to

Re: First small steps toward free GSM firmware

2013-10-16 Thread Norayr Chilingarian
then flash into your GTA0x GSM modem Wait, it works both on gta-02 and gta-04? Also, did you test if data connection works? I don't use phone calls, only encrypted ssl over tcp over 3g/wifi. I am very interested if this can be flashed to gta-02 device, (unfortunately I don't own gta-04). Also,

Re: First small steps toward free GSM firmware

2013-10-28 Thread Norayr Chilingarian
Why not add information about free fw and loader to the mentioned wiki page? So that people who are not in this mailing list, may know about this fw and a free fc-load tool. Also, it would be good to have step by step instructions like get this source here, compile it like that, get another

Re: First small steps toward free GSM firmware

2013-10-30 Thread Norayr Chilingarian
I believe that I can do all those steps without difficulty. Also, I am motivated to try this firmware because with current moko11 fw, battery is getting drained too fast, it doesn't work for whole day. May be the battery is in bad condition, but anyway, I can do it. I just need a free day, I

Re: First small steps toward free GSM firmware

2013-10-30 Thread Norayr Chilingarian
okay (: 10/29/13 02:03 -ում, Michael Spacefalcon-ը գրել է: P.S. If anyone manages to get as far as the loadtool prompt, please give me a shout before you type any flash erase or flash program commands - I would not want you to ruin your device by wiping out its very hard-to-recover RF

Re: First small steps toward free GSM firmware

2013-10-31 Thread Norayr Chilingarian
No, it's not fixed. I'll try one day. (: 10/30/13 12:50 -???, Radek Polak-? ?: Do you have fixed hardware and enabled deep sleep? I can get standby of 4 days with my Freerunner. BR Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: First small steps toward free GSM firmware

2013-11-09 Thread Norayr Chilingarian
Okay, so first thing I did is I have compiled loadtools, as planned right on freerunner. opkg install gcc opkg install gcc-symlinks opkg install libc6-dev opkg install binutils opkg install make and synced time before build. /etc/init.d/fsotdld restart then I have edited makefile, as suggested

Re: First small steps toward free GSM firmware

2013-11-09 Thread Norayr Chilingarian
/09/13 05:18 -ում, Michael Spacefalcon-ը գրել է: Norayr Chilingarian nor...@arnet.am wrote: Okay, so first thing I did is I have compiled loadtools, as planned right on freerunner. [...] After short build I have three binaries installed fc-iram fc-loadtool fc-xram I believe they will run

Re: First small steps toward free GSM firmware

2013-11-09 Thread Norayr Chilingarian
I can already tell that I could not use sms's previously, they did not work. I just received many sms's after reboot, and I was able to remove them. It did not work before. 11/09/13 11:42 -ում, Norayr Chilingarian-ը գրել է: Hehe, flashed your image! http://norayr.arnet.am/tmp/2013-11-09

Re: First small steps toward free GSM firmware

2013-11-10 Thread Norayr Chilingarian
So, I were getting messages in SHR, that the SIM SMS card storage is full, and I need to remove some messages. However by running SMS program in SHR I could not get list of messages previously. Neither I can get this list now. What is interesting, is that after second reboot it had received a

Re: First small steps toward free GSM firmware

2013-11-10 Thread Norayr Chilingarian
I have documented what I have done, and I have a manual draft on my computer. If I can get a wiki account, I will add the information there. 11/10/13 01:33 -ում, Norayr Chilingarian-ը գրել է: So, I were getting messages in SHR, that the SIM SMS card storage is full, and I need to remove some

Re: First small steps toward free GSM firmware

2013-11-10 Thread Norayr Chilingarian
. 11/10/13 06:10 -ում, joerg Reisenweber-ը գրել է: On Sun 10 November 2013 11:15:22 Norayr Chilingarian wrote: I have documented what I have done, and I have a manual draft on my computer. If I can get a wiki account, I will add the information there. A good example why we should keep wiki

Re: First small steps toward free GSM firmware

2013-11-10 Thread Norayr Chilingarian
users trying it. Try the firmware and write there your observations. Measure something if you can. 11/10/13 05:56 -ում, joerg Reisenweber-ը գրել է: On Sun 10 November 2013 10:33:47 Norayr Chilingarian wrote: What's also interesting, I have an impression, that power managment works much better

Re: First small steps toward free GSM firmware

2013-11-10 Thread Norayr Chilingarian
is digital and editable, unlike cuneiform it's cut in stone. 11/10/13 09:19 -ում, joerg Reisenweber-ը գրել է: On Sun 10 November 2013 18:03:36 Norayr Chilingarian wrote: I know, that people tend to make connection between events. I know, that often it is useful, and often it is wrong to make those

Re: First small steps toward free GSM firmware

2013-11-10 Thread Norayr Chilingarian
there how to build the leo2moko firmware. Anyone may add whatever political concern she has to the same wiki page. 11/10/13 09:32 -???, joerg Reisenweber-? ?: On Sun 10 November 2013 18:27:45 Nick wrote: Quoth Norayr Chilingarian: What I would write in wiki is step by step instructions how

the second operating system

2013-12-09 Thread Norayr Chilingarian
There is an osnews article named The second operating system hiding in every mobile phone, and I guess some people in this list may be interested. Not that we didn't know about it, just wanted to share an article with you.

Re: testing the free calypso software

2014-01-27 Thread Norayr Chilingarian
I did not publish it in the mailing list, so here is link to my manual: http://norayr.arnet.am/log/?p=113 If anyone who has wiki account wants to use it as reference, or even to copy the text entirely, feel free and encouraged to do that. 01/27/14 07:17 -ում, Giacomo 'giotti' Mariani-ը գրել է:

Re: testing the free calypso software

2014-01-28 Thread Norayr Chilingarian
01/27/14 10:26 -ում, Michael Spacefalcon-ը գրել է: Even in the case of the FFS with the RF calibration values etc, there is absolutely no danger of corrupting this FFS if you issue loadtool commands exactly per the instructions. Saving a backup copy of the FFS sectors is a precaution just in

Re: testing the free calypso software

2014-02-03 Thread Norayr Chilingarian
Does anyone know what will happen in a cellular network where there is more than one device has the same IMEI. In other words, if we all could change our IMEI numbers, and use one imaginary number, are there technical reasons for network to not work. I mean, MAC address is used on a physical

Re: ffs-edit-tools

2014-02-09 Thread Norayr Chilingarian
nice. is there a way to upload those tools to qtmoko official repo? 02/09/14 02:12 -ում, David Matthews-ը գրել է: I made a debian package for Qtmoko - it's here if you're interested:- http://winterveldt.co.za/ffs-edit-kit.html -- David Matthews m...@dmatthews.org

Re: Openmoko GTA06

2014-04-10 Thread Norayr Chilingarian
Michael, just would like to mention my needs, and unfortunately I cannot satisfy them with your project. I would even tell, I don't have a need for voice communications. But if I were, I would use something over Internet, like Jabber. So I don't need a phone, but a mobile computer, which may

Re: Openmoko GTA06

2014-04-11 Thread Norayr Chilingarian
04/11/14 03:08 -ում, Michael Spacefalcon-ը գրել է: I don't know how things stand in your part of the world, but here in USA the carriers only want to sell mobile data services while giving voice and SMS away for free - so it is the direct opposite of what you are picturing: old-fashioned voice

Re: Openmoko GTA06

2014-04-11 Thread Norayr Chilingarian
need to add that the other thing we need, apart from encrypted calls, via gsm, as in your case, or over tcp/ip, as in my case, we need, yes, possibility to change IMEI's and use anonymous SIM cards, in order to prevent permanent tracking. 04/11/14 10:37 -ում, Norayr Chilingarian-ը գրել է

Re: Openmoko GTA06

2014-04-13 Thread Norayr Chilingarian
04/12/14 01:41 -ում, Michael Spacefalcon-ը գրել է: Joerg R. and others on this list have already explained quite well the pointlessness of those IMEI changes when it comes to privacy. If you mean this call numbers that are getting called by 0.5mio users per day). Simply compare who called

Re: Openmoko GTA06

2014-04-13 Thread Norayr Chilingarian
04/13/14 03:50 -ում, joerg Reisenweber-ը գրել է: On Sun 13 April 2014 15:26:34 Norayr Chilingarian wrote: Then they need to filter who uses same Internet services as me. This case it's much harder to make sure that me is me, right? Nope, since your internet traffic is a way better richer

Re: Free phone: smart or not?

2015-03-16 Thread Norayr Chilingarian
Hey, I don't talk on phone. I just don't talk. I chat. I email. That's why I don't need a dumbphone. I need a device with a full operating system so I can compile my preferred applications for it. If I need a gsm then I need it to get an Internet connection. Then I can use ssl/tor for

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone HTML5 / QML

2015-03-20 Thread Norayr Chilingarian
meanwhile, let's not forget that Ubuntu Touch can be ported to thus installed on GTA04/5 board. 03/19/15 11:31 -ին Matthias Apitzը գրել է. El día Monday, March 16, 2015 a las 08:46:09AM +0100, Ed Kapitein escribió: I did order the ubuntu phone and can't wait to test it out! Hi Ed, Could

Re: OT: Ubuntu phone HTML5 / QML

2015-03-29 Thread Norayr Chilingarian
also there is sailfish. 03/21/15 12:40 -ին Norayr Chilingarianը գրել է. meanwhile, let's not forget that Ubuntu Touch can be ported to thus installed on GTA04/5 board. 03/19/15 11:31 -ին Matthias Apitzը գրել է. El día Monday, March 16, 2015 a las 08:46:09AM +0100, Ed Kapitein escribió: I

Re: GTA02 PCB layout files found!

2015-04-13 Thread Norayr Chilingarian
okay now i was able to read the full thread and notice that it is the same project. 04/13/15 01:08 -ին Norayr Chilingarianը գրել է. btw there is a free software cellular baseband project https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/free-software-cellular-baseband On Sat, 11 Apr 2015, Spacefalcon the

Re: GTA02 PCB layout files found!

2015-04-13 Thread Norayr Chilingarian
btw there is a free software cellular baseband project https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/free-software-cellular-baseband On Sat, 11 Apr 2015, Spacefalcon the Outlaw wrote: Nick openmoko-commun...@njw.me.uk wrote: Where does that leave the indiegogo campaign? Is the money not needed now?

Re: State of FreeCalypso

2015-05-26 Thread Norayr Chilingarian
Reiser's case is more complicated than that. Anyway let's not bring it. 05/25/15 03:03 -ին Bob Hamը գրել է. On Sun, 2015-05-24 at 01:54 -0700, Brolin Empey wrote: Bob Ham wrote: I don't know any other free software developers who threaten to murder those who get in the way of their work.

kde plasma mobile

2015-08-15 Thread Norayr Chilingarian
yet another possibility https://youtu.be/auuQA0Q8qpM https://dot.kde.org/2015/07/25/plasma-mobile-free-mobile-platform ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Fwd: [Gta04-owner] QtMoko: a dream comes true :)

2018-02-23 Thread Norayr Chilingarian
I would prefer it to be on github. Though usually I am the one who supports decentralization, but here are some arguments: * github is a public place, where it is much more probable that your project can be discovered by the people who potentially can get involved, even if they did not know

Re: [Tinkerphones] Fwd: [Gta04-owner] QtMoko: a dream comes true :)

2018-02-23 Thread Norayr Chilingarian
wow, going to start it. (: On Fri, 23 Feb 2018, H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Hi, Am 23.02.2018 um 12:28 schrieb Norayr Chilingarian <nor...@arnet.am>: I would prefer it to be on github. Though usually I am the one who supports decentralization, but here are some arguments: *