Ben Reser wrote:
On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 09:24:33PM -0500, CyberCFO wrote:
You also further insinuate that the Mandrake community is planning for the
demise of MandrakeSoft, which it was not. Some in the community, Ben Reser
for example, may think that is true, but many do not, and Ben Reser
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we all know what was here
/snip
He took a shot at rewriting the article, and in my estimation
made no change in the way he is characterizing the thread. This is my
second correspondence with him attempting to get him to realize the true
nature of the original thread. I thought all of
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On Tuesday 11 February 2003 07:41 am, et wrote:
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we all know what was here
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He took a shot at rewriting the article, and in my estimation
made no change in the way he is characterizing the thread. This is my
second correspondence
just a few comments on this thread:
- opening up things is *costly* for developers here. Answering to
mails take always more time...
- many things are *not* decided, but are the way they are because it
ended up that way, because nobody took the time to change things.
- there is usually no real
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Buchan Milne wrote on Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 12:06:13PM +0200 :
For example:
Finally, Mandrake has produced MNF and appears to be hinting that they
will be charging for security updates for it. That's right folks. They
will be charging you for
Todd Lyons wrote:
Buchan Milne wrote on Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 12:06:13PM +0200 :
For example:
Finally, Mandrake has produced MNF and appears to be hinting that they
will be charging for security updates for it. That's right folks. They
will be charging you for updates to a firewall. This is
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 12:06:13PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote:
It may also be that they are not totally able to be totally open and
forthright. I would request that you consider carefully before damaging
your relationship with the people here in favour of attempting to force
Mandrakesoft to
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 08:14:28PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote:
Who wants a gui interface when I can put a two-command entry into cron
and forget about it ... which is another challenge for Mandrakesoft
marketing. I would like to pay for MNF, but not at $2000 (none of my
clients would afford
Ben Reser wrote:
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 12:06:13PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote:
It may also be that they are not totally able to be totally open and
forthright. I would request that you consider carefully before damaging
your relationship with the people here in favour of attempting to force
On Tuesday 11 February 2003 01:48 pm, Buchan Milne wrote:
Ben Reser wrote:
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 12:06:13PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote:
It may also be that they are not totally able to be totally open and
forthright. I would request that you consider carefully before damaging
your
et wrote:
On Tuesday 11 February 2003 01:48 pm, Buchan Milne wrote:
Ben Reser wrote:
Mandrakesoft as a publicly traded company owes it's shareholders the
truth. As an open source company it owes it's contributors the truth,
even if it isn't required to give it.
Surely it's up to the
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 08:48:46PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote:
Surely it's up to the shareholders to decide what information needs to
be *publicly* (by which I mean accessible to people who are not
shareholders) accessible. Publishing such information could artificially
deflate stock prices,
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 09:24:49PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote:
Ben's rant was published on his site before Mandrakesoft had announced
that it had filed for bankruptcy protection ...
And the stock had been halted trading for a month before my rant.
--
Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 02:07:17PM -0500, et wrote:
no,,, that is up to the lawyers at this stage, I believe, at least it sure
would be if it was in Fla. and I am sure there are things we would love to
know, but to make public at this stage could weel leave the person making
it public
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 02:06:46PM +0100, Pixel wrote:
just a few comments on this thread:
- opening up things is *costly* for developers here. Answering to
mails take always more time...
- many things are *not* decided, but are the way they are because it
ended up that way, because
On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 10:22, Ben Reser wrote:
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 08:14:28PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote:
Who wants a gui interface when I can put a two-command entry into cron
and forget about it ... which is another challenge for Mandrakesoft
marketing. I would like to pay for MNF, but
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On Monday 10 February 2003 05:51 pm, you wrote:
CyberCFO wrote:
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First off, I do not represent Mandrake or MandrakeSoft in any way other
than as a user. I have been following the thread you have
On Tuesday 11 February 2003 03:24, CyberCFO wrote:
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On Monday 10 February 2003 05:51 pm, you wrote:
CyberCFO wrote:
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First off, I do not represent Mandrake or MandrakeSoft in any way other
On Mon 2003-02-10 at 21:24:33 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Monday 10 February 2003 05:51 pm, you wrote:
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I hope this fits better.
Mandrake Linux without MandrakeSoft? Some Mandrake developers are
[37]discussing the future of Mandrake Linux since Ben Reser
On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 09:24:33PM -0500, CyberCFO wrote:
You also further insinuate that the Mandrake community is planning for the
demise of MandrakeSoft, which it was not. Some in the community, Ben Reser
for example, may think that is true, but many do not, and Ben Reser certainly
does
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On Monday 10 February 2003 09:24 pm, CyberCFO wrote:
On Monday 10 February 2003 05:51 pm, you wrote:
CyberCFO wrote:
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On Monday 10 February 2003 11:24 pm, Benjamin Pflugmann wrote:
Do you really think insulting people will help? He already showed that
it matters to him by taking the time to rewording it. How about
writing a summary yourself and submit it?
I did.
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On Monday 10 February 2003 11:29 pm, Ben Reser wrote:
So really. Please do not try to speak for me. My feelings on that
matter are rather complex. I even find it difficult at times to express
them clearly.
I don't think I was trying to speak
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