[CTRL] Chuck Harder vs. the New World Order

2001-06-18 Thread Michael Pugliese
-Caveat Lector- http://www.maxwell.syr.edu/maxpages/faculty/merupert/Research/far-right/HARD ER.HTM ...III. Critical Ambiguities of the New Populism We are witnessing the long and painful demise of the Fordist socio-political regime through which American industrial workers were incorporated

Re: [CTRL] Take Wingate thread OFF the list

2001-06-18 Thread nexusmagazine
-Caveat Lector- Hey Duncan, can we say 'get real'. I post the truth here when I don't have to contend with defending myself against psychotics and extreme rightwing zealots, and alarmist journalists wasting valuble bandwith. If I was God you would be long gone, stepped on like an insignificant

[CTRL] Sv: Re: [CTRL] Fwd: U.S. to proceed on missile plan

2001-06-18 Thread Ole Gerstrøm
-Caveat Lector- The present strange american plans for a National Missile Defense(NMD), to protect America from missile attack from Iraq, Iran, North Korea. are weird indeed . It is claimed by researchers from official institutions, that the technology to be used has not yet been

Re: [CTRL] Cease and desist references to me!

2001-06-18 Thread Steve Wingate
-Caveat Lector- On 17 Jun 01, at 23:09, Amelia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you do not cease and desist from discussing me in any and every manner, I shall be forced to share with Pacific Bell, your apparent ISP of record, your post concerning I fart in your face and light it directed

[CTRL] The Truth About Black Slavery And The Confederate Flag

2001-06-18 Thread tnohava
http://www.lewrockwell.com/sobran/sobran166.html Slavery in Perspective by Joseph Sobran The recurrent fuss about Confederate flags has always struck me as silly, and never more so than now. I've been reading Hugh Thomas's impressive history, The Slave Trade (published by Touchstone/Simon

[CTRL] Scientist finds fungus that eats through compact discs

2001-06-18 Thread tnohava
You've received a protected Disappearing Email message. If you're connected to theInternet, the message or directions will appear below. HELP? 1-877-723-3624 To read your Disappearing Email message, open the attachment named "di4_5m.html". Lotus Notes users must select "launch" after opening

[CTRL] The Dead Cry Out (Fwd)

2001-06-18 Thread kl
-Caveat Lector- The Dead Cry Out by Jeff Elkins The fix is in. The murderer Lon Horiuchi walks free. A motion to dismiss criminal charges against FBI Hostage Rescue Team sniper Lon Horiuchi has been filed with the federal district court in Boise, Idaho by the craven coward of Boundary County,

Re: [CTRL] Ann Coulter on the Religious Cultof -J2 Liberalism

2001-06-18 Thread Tenorlove
-Caveat Lector- --- Nurev Ind. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would point out to you that the corporation is NOT the equivalent of Jews in the Jewish conspiracy theories. There is a * group * who is that equivalent. They are the * Rich * . And, if you plug in *the rich* into almost any of

[CTRL] BBC Documentary on Ariel Sharon is now online: (fwd)

2001-06-18 Thread Yardbird
-Caveat Lector- The BBC Documentary on Ariel Sharon is now online. You can see it here at: http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/cta/progs/panorama/latest.ram A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing

[CTRL] BBC defends Sharon documentary (fwd)

2001-06-18 Thread Yardbird
-Caveat Lector- BBC defends Sharon documentary http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_1393000/1393861.stm Sunday, 17 June, 2001 An Israeli inquiry said Mr Sharon was indirectly responsible The BBC has rebuffed intense criticism from the Israeli Government over a

[CTRL] Secrets of Tim McVeigh

2001-06-18 Thread Schmidt
-Caveat Lector- This was just posted at Sherman Skolnicks website, so as it doesn't seem to have been put on list yet I present: http://www.skolnicksreport.com/tmsecrets.html and check his other site http://www.skolnickstv.com and my site of course! http://leviathan.weblogs.com THE

[CTRL] Gore Vidal

2001-06-18 Thread Aleisha Saba
-Caveat Lector- Difficult to imagine Timothy McVeigh and his interest in Gore Vidal. Once years ago Buckley and Vidal got into a public argument - Buckley called Gore a queer son-of-a-bitch, after Vidal goaded him into reacting. Gore Vidal was a homosexual and wasn ot offended by the remark.

[CTRL] Mormons, third try

2001-06-18 Thread Schmidt
-Caveat Lector- OK, this is the third time I have posted this to the list, the Mormon hackers seem to be far more efficient than the Scientologist ones! Anyweay, the book referred to (and which one poster claimed I had invented) is called Doc, the rape of the town of Lovell. Info on it from

[CTRL] House investigates Isralie use of F16s

2001-06-18 Thread Schmidt
-Caveat Lector- my weblog, updated daily, http://leviathan.weblogs.com http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/front_3.html GAO probes Israel's use of F-16s SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM Friday, June 15, 2001 WASHINGTON — The watchdog agency of Congress has launched an investigation of

[CTRL] Bush gives cheap gas to other states but NOT California

2001-06-18 Thread Jenny Decker
-Caveat Lector- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12662-2001Jun17.html Bush to Back FERC Energy Price Limits Proposed Restraints Would Affect 11 States _ Update _ Bush: FERC Western Plan Not Price Controls From Reuters at 10:20 AM President Bush said Monday he did not

[CTRL] Understanding the Palestinian Uprising ( Lecture and Discussion) (fwd)

2001-06-18 Thread Yardbird
-Caveat Lector- You are invited to a Lecture and Discussion: Understanding the Palestinian Uprising Presented by Ramzy Baroud, international journalist and managing editor of Middle East Newswire SUNDAY, JULY 1 1:30PM at Gift of Grace Church 2102 N. 40th Street, Seattle (on the corner of 40th

Re: [CTRL] Take Wingate thread OFF the list

2001-06-18 Thread Kris Millegan
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/17/01 9:42:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey Duncan, can we say 'get real'. I post the truth here when I don't have to contend with defending myself against psychotics and extreme rightwing zealots, and alarmist journalists wasting valuble bandwith. If I

Re: [CTRL] The Truth About Black Slavery And The Confederate Flag

2001-06-18 Thread Kris Millegan
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/18/01 3:06:12 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Several of Africa's proudest empires were built on the sale of slaves. For centuries Africa's chief export was human beings. When Congresswoman Maxine Waters speaks of my African ancestors' struggle for freedom,

[CTRL] Return to Clinton Approach Heralds Disaster (fwd)

2001-06-18 Thread Yardbird
-Caveat Lector- Return to Clinton approach heralds disaster By Ali Abunimah The Jordan Times, June 18, 2001 THE MOST abused word of recent times is ceasefire. Hoping to reap international sympathy, several weeks ago Israel declared a unilateral ceasefire in its war against the Palestinian

[CTRL] Egyptian feminist faces stiff penalty for statements deemed anti-Islamic (fwd)

2001-06-18 Thread Yardbird
-Caveat Lector- Egyptian feminist faces stiff penalty for statements deemed anti-Islamic Preliminary hearings begin today against Nawal Al-Saadawi, who faces forced divorce. By Sarah Gauch Special to The Christian Science Monitor http://www.csmonitor.com/durable/2001/06/18/p9s1.htm CAIRO A

[CTRL] GULAG BRITANNIA june 2001AD [after democracy]

2001-06-18 Thread Andrew Hennessey
-Caveat Lector- GULAG BRITANNIAjune 2001 AD [after democracy] BREAD CIRCUSES - TONY DROPS DRINK LEGISLATION a pre-election pledge to bring in 24 hour drinking in pubs and clubs has been dropped. Labour conned young voters on the saturday before the election by sending them text messages:

[CTRL] 666 in barcodes

2001-06-18 Thread Andrew Hennessey
-Caveat Lector- is it true that barcodes have an integrated number 666 in them tagged on at the beginning or end - - I take it that that is a UNIX end of programme instruction ??? these computer nerds seem to generate a lot of fun in the lab ... ;) andrew A number of years ago I was

[CTRL] More crime in France than in US - report

2001-06-18 Thread Carl Amedio
More crime in France than in US - report PARIS, June 18 (AFP) - France has become a more crime-ridden society than the United States, according to a new report which draws on official statistics from the FBI and French ministry of interior. Examining figures for a range of offenses since

Re: [CTRL] Anarchists and leftists battle Bilderbergers

2001-06-18 Thread flw
-Caveat Lector- Old fashioned American Right Wing Populism has always attacked Big Corporations; Wall Street, and Globalism. Their biggest taint was the anti semitism that often was intertwined. Now that the Left has embraced State Racism (affirmative action; quotas; multi culturalism)

Re: [CTRL] The Truth About Black Slavery And The Confederate Flag

2001-06-18 Thread flw
-Caveat Lector- -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/18/01 3:06:12 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Several of Africa's proudest empires were built on the sale of slaves. For centuries Africa's chief export was human beings. When Congresswoman Maxine Waters speaks of my African ancestors'

Re: [CTRL] Gore Vidal

2001-06-18 Thread c.
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Aleisha Saba [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 3:25 PM Subject: [CTRL] Gore Vidal Gore Vidal liked to shock people; he held the American people in contempt which was obvious, but then so did McVeigh. you

[CTRL] Qat Chewing

2001-06-18 Thread Yardbird
-Caveat Lector- You can view an online Odyssey documentary on Yemen and their practice of Qat chewing at: http://me.orientation.com/en/odysseys/home.html A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list.

Re: [CTRL] Gore Vidal

2001-06-18 Thread magnetic_field
-Caveat Lector- Not suprising at all. Tim was very well read. He read the classics as well as modern books. I sent him more than a few books when he was at Terre Haute. % - Original Message - From: Aleisha Saba [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday,

Re: [CTRL] Gore Vidal

2001-06-18 Thread Aleisha Saba
-Caveat Lector- Well if you call Gore Vidal a patriot - fine; I still remember remarks he made about JFK, his appearance on TV, and this obsession with homosexuality. I imagine you are in love with Arthur Miller too? Was glad to hear he had recovered from his illness and to tell the truth, do

Re: [CTRL] Gore Vidal

2001-06-18 Thread c.
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Aleisha Saba [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 6:52 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Gore Vidal -Caveat Lector- Well if you call Gore Vidal a patriot - fine stop idolizing the philosopher king as vidal called him.

Re: [CTRL] Gore Vidal

2001-06-18 Thread magnetic_field
-Caveat Lector- As a matter of fact Tim did have girl friends. He liked to keep his personal life private. %%% - Original Message - From: Aleisha Saba [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Gore Vidal

[CTRL] Subject: Mormon Doctor

2001-06-18 Thread Kris Millegan
Kris, I've tried to post a particular message twice about 12 years ago. I didn't get a message saying that the 100 posts were up, so I assume that maybe you are holding posts with certain key-words for approval? Anyway, if you could be so good the message reads as follows

[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: Monopoly Media Manipulation

2001-06-18 Thread Kris Millegan
Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com http://www.michaelparenti.org/MonopolyMedia.html Michael Parenti Political Archive May 2001 Monopoly Media Manipulation By Michael Parenti In a capitalist democracy like

Re: [CTRL] Gore Vidal

2001-06-18 Thread Dale Stonehouse
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Aleisha Saba [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 12:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Gore Vidal He failed to win two elective offices (as did Norman Mailer fail to win any office for which he

[CTRL] EU Summit Braced for More Violence

2001-06-18 Thread radman
-Caveat Lector- EU Summit Braced for More Violence By Ian Geoghegan GOTHENBURG, Sweden (Reuters) - Swedish police were braced for fresh protests on Saturday after rioting raged through a European Union (news - web sites) summit, leaving three anarchist protesters shot and wounded and 12

[CTRL] Israeli breaches of the cease-fire for June 17th and 18th (fwd)

2001-06-18 Thread Yardbird
-Caveat Lector- Israeli breaches of the cease-fire Palestine Media Center (PMC) 18 June 2001 Despite its announced acceptance of the Tenet cease-fire work plan, Israel has yet to comply with its specified terms. Below are examples of the Israel's breaches from late 17 June until today 18

[CTRL] Fw: Mammogram Radiation Debate:

2001-06-18 Thread YnrChyldzWyld
---Original Message--- Date: Sunday, June 17, 2001 01:03:56 PM Please copy and distribute to other interested individuals and groups**Mammogram Radiation Debate:From:Cancer Solutions: Rife, Energy Medicine, and

[CTRL] NWO worship of Shaven Images

2001-06-18 Thread Andrew Hennessey
-Caveat Lector- NWO worship of Shaven Images - andrew hennessey I grew up to the jingles and songs of macho razor adverts - Gillette the best a man can get etc with pictures of phallic jets, sportscars and other tokens of conquest - with the bimbo draped around a clean shaven square jawed

[CTRL] Salt Lake Trib Article On Syrian Assassin Order

2001-06-18 Thread William Shannon
http://www.sltrib.com/06172001/travel/105789.htm Syrian Fortress Was a Stronghold Of Mysterious Assassins Order Sunday, June 17, 2001   BY HAMZA HENDAWI THE ASSOCIATED PRESS     MASYAF, Syria -- They worked in twos or threes, stalking victims with the utmost secrecy, then

[CTRL] Nuclear Bomb Tested In Aussie Rainforest?

2001-06-18 Thread William Shannon
http://www.abc.net.au/ra/newsdaily/s312457.htm Nuclear bomb may have been tested in Australian rainforest Declassified Australian government documents reportedly suggest a nuclear bomb may have been detonated in a tropical rainforest in northern Queensland at the height of the Cold War. The

[CTRL] Fw: TAYAD statement

2001-06-18 Thread Mrs. Jela Jovanovic
- Original Message - From: dhkcbureau To: mailto:Undisclosed-Recipient:@SOLAIR.EUnet.yu Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 6:46 PM Subject: TAYAD statement THE BALANCE SHEET OF THE RESISTANCE:47 Political Prisoners and 4 TAYAD Members Have Fallen Martyred... There are 48 LivingDead...

[CTRL] Religion The Brain

2001-06-18 Thread William Shannon
http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/nation/science/A10767-2001Jun16.html Tracing the Synapses of Our Spirituality Researchers Examine Relationship Between Brain and Religion By Shankar Vedantam Washington Post Staff Writer Sunday, June 17, 2001; Page A01 In Philadelphia, a researcher discovers

[CTRL] IRAQ PROCURES HUNDREDS OF TANK TRANSPORTERS

2001-06-18 Thread Carl Amedio
IRAQ PROCURES HUNDREDS OF TANK TRANSPORTERS MIDDLE EAST NEWSLINE ARMS, DEFENSE, STRATEGY The indepth regional news service http://www.menewsline.com/ 17.6.2001 LONDON [MENL] -- Iraq has procured hundreds of tank transporters from Russia in what has been termed as an effort to improve military

[CTRL] Missile Defense Could Backfire On U.S.

2001-06-18 Thread William Shannon
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/opinion/columnists/orl-oped-reese061401.co lumn Missile-defense plan could backfire on U.S. By Charley Reese Published June 14, 2001 It's a heck of a note when you find that reason and logic are on the side of the Russians and Chinese. But that's the

[CTRL] Montauk Symposium-Vermont-9-12 Thru 9-16-2001

2001-06-18 Thread William Shannon
http://www.davidicke.com/icke/index1c.html The First Montauk Symposium Important Event: The First Montauk Symposium New release For the first time ever, Montauk survivors Al Bielek, Duncan Cameron, Preston Nichols, and Stewart Swerdlow (a/k/a "Stan Campbell") share the same stage along with

[CTRL] Armey takes on traffic-surveillance cameras

2001-06-18 Thread Bill Richer
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Armey takes on traffic-surveillance cameras Lawmaker says cities have shortened yellow lights to raise revenue -- --

[CTRL] Supreme Court Won't Hear Student Prayer Challenge

2001-06-18 Thread Bill Richer
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Monday June 18 11:44 AM ET Supreme Court Won't Hear Student Prayer Challenge By James Vicini WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court (news - web sites) let stand on Monday a ruling that

[CTRL] U.S. plans new missile defense test in July

2001-06-18 Thread Bill Richer
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! U.S. plans new missile defense test in July SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM Monday, June 18, 2001 WASHINGTON — The United States plans another missile defense test in July in the start of a series.

[CTRL] Patients fighting HMOs' denial of claims, and many are winning

2001-06-18 Thread Bill Richer
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Patients fighting HMOs' denial of claims, and many are winning MICHELE CHANDLER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dawn Ripley never had a problem with her health insurance plan -- until her daughter, Anna, came

[CTRL] America declares 'war' on America

2001-06-18 Thread Bill Richer
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! America declares 'war' on America -- -- © 2001 WorldNetDaily.com It's funny that a nation, rooted in the

[CTRL] Iraqi Sanctions Genocide!

2001-06-18 Thread William Shannon
Former U.N. aides call Iraqi sanctions genocide By WAIEL FALEH, Associated Press BAGHDAD, Iraq (June 17, 2001 03:41 p.m. EDT http://www.nandotimes.com) Two former humanitarian officers for the United Nations on Sunday urged an end to the U.N.'s sanctions against Iraq, calling them "genocidal"

Re: [CTRL] The Truth About Black Slavery And The Confederate Flag

2001-06-18 Thread YnrChyldzWyld
From: Kris Millegan Gee, I guess there is no "history" of slaves being held by other races.What a crock of self-serving scholarship. And the gentleman should read morethan one book on slavery before baring his ignorance to the world.What the original

[CTRL] SNET: Kyoto Treaty a disaster for third world (fwd)

2001-06-18 Thread William Bacon
-Caveat Lector- visit my web site at http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon My ICQ# is 79071904 for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto: http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon/Enumerated.html -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 08:47:04 -0400 From: [EMAIL

[CTRL] SNET: Global Warming Natural, May End Within 20 Years (fwd)

2001-06-18 Thread William Bacon
-Caveat Lector- visit my web site at http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon My ICQ# is 79071904 for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto: http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon/Enumerated.html -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 08:39:22 -0400 From: [EMAIL

Re: [CTRL] The Truth About Black Slavery And The Confederate Flag

2001-06-18 Thread Carl Amedio
In a message dated 6/18/01 6:16:51 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If there wasn't a market for slaves amongst the European powers, there wouldn't have been a slave trade of the scope it grew to become... I don't know about that. The Arabs did a thriving business in buying

Re: [CTRL] Anarchists and leftists battle Bilderbergers

2001-06-18 Thread Nurev Ind.
-Caveat Lector- Nessie wrote: -Caveat Lector- in the streets while rightists sit home in front of their computers and do nothing. Nothing new here Nessie. The Right is all talk and no action unless you consider blowing up inocent civilians and children in Oklahoma. They are full of shit.

[CTRL] US 'planned nuclear first strike on Russia'

2001-06-18 Thread Nurev Ind.
-Caveat Lector- The Daily Telegraph (UK) June 15, 2001 US 'planned nuclear first strike on Russia' By Michael Smith BRITISH intelligence warned in 1951 that the Americans were planning to wage a preventative atomic war on the Russians the next year with or without the support of their Nato

Re: [CTRL] At Least Biotech Terrorists Are Consistent ... They'reAlwaysWrong (fwd)

2001-06-18 Thread Nurev Ind.
-Caveat Lector- Yardbird wrote: -Caveat Lector- Junkscience.com - www.junkscience.com New from JunkScience.com, http://www.junkscience.com At Least the Biotech Terrorists Are Consistent ... They're Always Wrong By Steven Milloy, Fox News June 14, 2001 Oops, they did it again.

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Yahoo! Groups : marxist Messages :Message 893 of

2001-06-18 Thread Nurev Ind.
-Caveat Lector- Michael Pugliese wrote: -Caveat Lector- Heh, been reading your David Icke, eh? http://www.publiceye.org/Icke/Table%20of%20Contents.htm Michael Pugliese ak/a Illuminati ;-) - Original Message - From: Andrew Hennessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001

Re: [CTRL] Religion The Brain

2001-06-18 Thread Nurev Ind.
-Caveat Lector- William Shannon wrote: Check out an excellent book called The God Part of the Brain and another called Belief and Make Believe. J2 http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/nation/science/A10767-2001Jun16.html Tracing the Synapses of Our Spirituality Researchers Examine

Re: [CTRL] Religion The Brain

2001-06-18 Thread Andrew Hennessey
-Caveat Lector- yeah, yeah but none of that materialism rationally explains remote data gathered during out of body experiences in distances far beyond the 5 senses operating in the locality of the body. we all have an eternal soul - get used to it andrew Tracing the Synapses of Our

Re: [CTRL] US 'planned nuclear first strike on Russia'

2001-06-18 Thread tenebroust
-Caveat Lector- The only really surprising thing about this is that it never happened. It seems that there were ultimatley other plans for the Soviet Union than were originally intended, also could it have been a ploy to force NATO down the throats of countries reluctant to side with the US?

Re: [CTRL] America declares 'war' on America

2001-06-18 Thread tenebroust
-Caveat Lector- This is certainly a good polemic against the Idea of a war on drugs or anything else for that matter. It puts me in mind of everyone patriotically doing their duty to save the country from the scourge. It is wrong and always has been. The rhetoric is certainly heating up

Re: [CTRL] Patients fighting HMOs' denial of claims, and many are winning

2001-06-18 Thread tenebroust
-Caveat Lector- There is a definite conflict of interest in these cases as there are in pharmaceutical companies payments to physicians that should be put a stop to. Basing care on what is medically necessary as determined by physicians who are unencumbered by economic ties and incentives

Re: [CTRL] Armey takes on traffic-surveillance cameras

2001-06-18 Thread tenebroust
-Caveat Lector- While he's at it why doesn't he do something about the passive radar put in airports to look at naked people, and the infrared devices used to illegally search someones home without warrants, and the numerous cameras on display throughout the country spying on us everywhere we

Re: [CTRL] Religion The Brain

2001-06-18 Thread tenebroust
-Caveat Lector- I fail to see the controversy in this issue, it seems to me that there is no way to determine which came first God or the brain which thinks of him. Religious experience is also a very personal thing and is experienced markedly differently between any two people and thus will

Re: [CTRL] Nuclear Bomb Tested In Aussie Rainforest?

2001-06-18 Thread tenebroust
-Caveat Lector- Australia has, it seems, always been the place for interesting testing of unusual devices. And a place where one can find many anomolous things and events. Certainly our relationship with the Australians is full of secrets and strange associations. On Mon, 18 June 2001,

[CTRL] How it works: Now that the Palestinians are charging Sharon with war crimes, here's the whole picture. Judge for your self.

2001-06-18 Thread Nurev Ind.
-Caveat Lector- Witness to Sabra and Shatila: why Sharon is a war criminal 15 JUNE 2001 Dr. Ben Alofs http://metimes.com/2K1/issue2001-24/opin/witness_to_sabra.htm I am a Dutch doctor, currently living in north Wales. In the summer of 1982 I was working as a nurse in West Beirut, which at the

Re: [CTRL] The Truth About Black Slavery And The Confederate Flag

2001-06-18 Thread tenebroust
-Caveat Lector- Of course the issue here is a lot more complex than the origin of the slave trade and also as to races in slavery. But rather it is one of the decimation by imperialism of the entire African continent. Whether that domination is from within or without is secondary to the end

Re: [CTRL] Secrets of Tim McVeigh

2001-06-18 Thread tenebroust
-Caveat Lector- Of course much of this stuff has been known for some time, the sad fact is that no one is listening, rather they are focussed on the fact that the murderer McVeigh is dead, ong live the Federal Government which caught him and put a lid on all of it. There is so much bullshit

Re: [CTRL] Strange Murders In Arizona...

2001-06-18 Thread tenebroust
-Caveat Lector- I have not failed to notice a marked upswing in this type of thing in recent years, and one at least must stop to wonder at what is the impetus for it. Could the use of mind control/disruption be once again at the head of the population control agenda? Don't know, but it is

Re: [CTRL] Drug war my ass - why we are really in the region.

2001-06-18 Thread tenebroust
-Caveat Lector- Certainly puts a little bit different spin on the matter but one cannot deny that the so-called war on drugs is in fact a tool for money laundering and get rich quick schemes for the power brokers of this country as well. On Sat, 16 June 2001, Nurev Ind. wrote: -Caveat

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: U.S. to proceed on missile plan

2001-06-18 Thread lassey
-Caveat Lector- Steve, Do your good deed. Double your SS contribution and then don't take your SS allotment. Isn't that what good liberals do, help the poor, feel their pain? On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 22:50:25 -0700 Steve Wingate [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- Unalaterally abrogating

Re: [CTRL] Killing without Consequences

2001-06-18 Thread tenebroust
-Caveat Lector- This story tells the sad tail of the lack of justice in our justice system these days. The federal police have a heavy hand and apparently can continue to use it indiscriminately. This whole issue makes me sick, and don't forget old trigger finger Horiuchi was at Waco too.

Re: [CTRL] The Truth About Black Slavery And The Confederate Flag

2001-06-18 Thread Michael Pugliese
-Caveat Lector- Disposable People: New Slavery in the Global Economy. Berkeley: University of California Press. By K. Bales, published in '99. http://www.ucpress.edu/books/pages/8428.html As fine and accessible a work of investigative reporting as any of the best that have appeared over the last

Re: [CTRL] Mormon...Mason...What's The Dif'???

2001-06-18 Thread BB
-Caveat Lector- June, I do not believe you realize the theology, or religion of the mormon church. You made one comment which is very wrong in both fact and logic-- Mormonism, while basing some of its tenets on Christ, is a religion separate from Christianity, just like Christianity is

[CTRL] Fwd: BIOWARFARE AGAINST CROPS The Cuban example

2001-06-18 Thread Aleisha Saba
In December 1999 Ralph McGehee apparently due to poor health, advertised his CIA Files with hope someone would take over. This informationo here, I wonder about - but noted he does mention this weather modificatioan program used in Cuba - cloud seeding, but then we did that over 100 years ago

[CTRL] Fwd: LBO-Talk December 1999: Fwd: McGehee offers his CIA collection

2001-06-18 Thread Aleisha Saba
Wonder who got this collection?Same people who got map showing UFO secret missile bases in USA - and these same people want to leave the Americans at the mercy of the Marxists and Communists and Fascists - first get the guns, and give China Neutron Bomb and lets have American Holocaust? Like

[CTRL] Face on Mars, West

2001-06-18 Thread Steve Wingate
-Caveat Lector- Some say that we should forget about the Face on Mars. They say that it has been exposed for what it is -- a pile of rocks and debris. I say they are wrong -- the Face now requires a closer look. http://home.pacbell.net/stevew77/Facenew3d_3.jpg This is a 3d view of the west

Re: [CTRL] Face on Mars, West

2001-06-18 Thread Aleisha Saba
-Caveat Lector- Yes Steve I see your face in what appears to be a pile of your own dung. Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not

Re: [CTRL] Mormon...Mason...What's The Dif'???

2001-06-18 Thread BB
-Caveat Lector- Sorry Aleisha, but I think you are mistaken on this one: The only thing I do not like about them is this: They wrote me once to say I descended from Demons and Satan as in their Archives they claim the Plantagenets and Fitzgeralds descend from same - like bright morning stars?

Re: [CTRL] Mormon...Mason...What's The Dif'???

2001-06-18 Thread Aleisha Saba
-Caveat Lector- BB - I wrote that letter back in 1969 when I pulled our family tree and this very old bible out of the attic. There were documents some sealed with the royal crown (signet ring) and family tree. The tree was on my mother's side, and on my father's side it just went to the

Re: [CTRL] Mormon...Mason...What's The Dif'???

2001-06-18 Thread Steve Wingate
-Caveat Lector- On 19 Jun 01, at 1:34, Aleisha Saba wrote: The only thing I do not like about them is this: They wrote me once to say I descended from Demons and Satan as in their Archives they claim the Plantagenets and Fitzgeralds descend from same - like bright morning stars? Maybe the