Re: [Debconf-team] Collaboratively drafting the next DebConf delegation

2015-10-20 Thread Daniel Lange
Am 20.10.2015 um 08:49 schrieb Lucas Nussbaum: > https://titanpad.com/DC16-draft-delegation-proposal So, the way I understand it, this proposal does three things: 1) explicitely restrict the decisions which the chairs can interact with. I understand that the goal here is to avoid chairs that

Re: [Debconf-team] Collaboratively drafting the next DebConf delegation

2015-10-20 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 20/10/15 at 15:55 +0200, Daniel Lange wrote: > >2) move the chairs selection process from designation by the DPL to > >election by the DebConf team. Given that the chairs are supposed to > >protect the Debian Project from serious issues with DebConf > >organization, I find it backward that the

Re: [Debconf-team] Collaboratively drafting the next DebConf delegation

2015-10-20 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Lucas Nussbaum dijo [Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 08:49:31AM +0200]: > (...) > The wording of this in the current delegation is: > When necessary, e.g. when the DebConf team's inability to make a > decision has an major impact on DebConf organization, or when a > decision taken by the DebConf team

Re: [Debconf-team] Collaboratively drafting the next DebConf delegation

2015-10-20 Thread Eric Dantan Rzewnicki
On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 08:49:31AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 19/10/15 at 22:49 +0200, Daniel Lange wrote: > > Dear team, > So, the way I understand it, this proposal does three things: > > 2) move the chairs selection process from designation by the DPL to > election by the DebConf team.

Re: [Debconf-team] Collaboratively drafting the next DebConf delegation

2015-10-20 Thread Daniel Lange
Am 20.10.2015 um 16:46 schrieb Lucas Nussbaum: On 20/10/15 at 15:55 +0200, Daniel Lange wrote: I'm a big fan of fair and free elections (as you probably saw when I asked people to vote for T-Shirt colors :)). But that is a personal preference. I'm not sure such negotiations will not get people

Re: [Debconf-team] Collaboratively drafting the next DebConf delegation

2015-10-20 Thread Patty Langasek
On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 04:46:37PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > But my main objection is that I don't think that it should be the DebConf > team members' responsibility to select who is going to control/supervise > them. If the Debian project thinks there's a need for a group of people > in

Re: [Debconf-team] Collaboratively drafting the next DebConf delegation

2015-10-20 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 19/10/15 at 22:49 +0200, Daniel Lange wrote: > Dear team, > > as you may be aware the DebConf chairs have resigned two weeks ago. > I have had many discussions before and during DC15 with chairs and other > long time DebConf contributors about how to improve the DebConf > organization. > I