Bug#194379: ITP: sctplib -- Userland implementation of the SCTP protocol (RFC 2960)

2003-05-23 Thread Anibal Monsalve Salazar
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-05-23 Severity: wishlist * Package name: sctplib Version : 1.0.0-pre19-1 Upstream Author : Thomas Dreibholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://tdrwww.exp-math.uni-essen.de/dreibholz/rserpool/ * License : LGPL

Bug#194378: ITP: rsplib -- Prototype implementation of the IETF RSerPool architecture

2003-05-23 Thread Anibal Monsalve Salazar
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-05-23 Severity: wishlist * Package name: rsplib Version : 0.1.0 Upstream Author : Thomas Dreibholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://tdrwww.exp-math.uni-essen.de/dreibholz/rserpool/ * License : LGPL Description

Bug#194377: ITP: socketapi -- Socket API library for sctplib

2003-05-23 Thread Anibal Monsalve Salazar
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-05-23 Severity: wishlist * Package name: socketapi Version : 1.0.1 Upstream Author : Thomas Dreibholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://tdrwww.exp-math.uni-essen.de/dreibholz/rserpool/ * License : LGPL

Re: Accepted directory-administrator 1.3.5-1 (i386 source)

2003-05-23 Thread Adam Heath
On Fri, 23 May 2003, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 09:51:33PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: Admin installs from cd. Admin runs programs. Admin finds something he thinks is a bug. Admin reads changelog to see if the bug existed previously. hmm.. why would he do that?

Re: voting system overview

2003-05-23 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 01:00:58AM +0200, Jochen Voss wrote: Hello, This is off-topic for debian-devel -- we have a -vote list for discussion of votes, please use it. Followups to -vote. In, http://www.mathematik.uni-kl.de/~wwwstoch/voss/comp/vote.html you claim: ] Generalised

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-23 Thread Marc Singer
Perhaps we can look at this a different way. I haven't read anyone voicing the opinion that GWB (can't say the name of the beast out loud) is a 'good fellow'. I'm supposing that all of us agree that he's a snake-oil salesmen of the odious kind, interested most in lining his pockets and the

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-23 Thread Marc Singer
(Unintentionally, I first sent the reply to you directly.) On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 02:09:24PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: Incidentally North America != USA. And your point is, what? A Canadian conference would be in North America and satisfy the objections of people who don't like the US,

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-23 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 08:55:31PM -0700, Marc Singer wrote: Perhaps we can look at this a different way. I haven't read anyone voicing the opinion that GWB (can't say the name of the beast out loud) is a 'good fellow'. Probably because it's completely off topic for this mailing list. Take it

Re: Constitutional amendment: Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD vote tallying

2003-05-23 Thread Jochen Voss
Hello, On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 08:45:51PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: I'm going to focus only on your claim that this page shows an example of the violation of monotonicity by Manoj's proposal. Monotonicity (http://electionmethods.org/evaluation.html#MC) requires With the relative order or

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-23 Thread Martin Schulze
Martin Schulze wrote: Only a few people will probably have noticed the mess resulting from tons of different kernel packages in the stable (and unstable) distribution. Not only there are several versions of kernel source in each architecture, they are also different for most architectures.

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-23 Thread Martin Schulze
Aaron M. Ucko wrote: While convenient for american developers, there are rather a number of non-american developers who will not set foot on American soil, due in part to the DMCA and (I imagine) the apparent dangers to non-americans coming into the country. Two of the people I

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-23 Thread Joel Baker
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 09:04:05AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: Martin Schulze wrote: Only a few people will probably have noticed the mess resulting from tons of different kernel packages in the stable (and unstable) distribution. Not only there are several versions of kernel source in

Re: donations wishlist?

2003-05-23 Thread Martin Schulze
Frank Gevaerts wrote: On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 10:15:54AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: plug I could use some non-mac m68k boxes to do exactly that :-) /plug Does that include boxes that are not supported by the kernel yet ? I have a VME 68030 board with full hardware documentation

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-23 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 23 May 2003 17:04, Martin Schulze wrote: I wonder if some people (Maybe Manoj and Russell, who are both quite competent) could help with this effort. I would love to contribute, however at the moment I am over-committed already. Progress towards getting SE Linux support in main is

Re: Accepted directory-administrator 1.3.5-1 (i386 source)

2003-05-23 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 09:39:55PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote: On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 08:49:52PM +0200, Francesco Paolo Lovergine wrote: On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 12:31:14PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: * Acknowledge NMU (closes: #174301, #172803, #179036, #177616) Ugh, also this

Bug#194409: ITP: debnest -- Nested Build System of Debian Source Package

2003-05-23 Thread Masato Taruishi
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-05-23 Severity: wishlist * Package name: debnest * License : GPL Description : Nested Build System of Debian Source Package I'm writing a debian build system to create debian binary packages such that their original upstream

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Re: Accepted directory-administrator 1.3.5-1 (i386 source)

2003-05-23 Thread Michael Banck
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 10:12:35AM +0200, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: And it generally causes confusion in bug submitters' mind: how many of them knows the difference between a fixed and a closed bug? A brief note about NMU changes incorporation in changelog and closing those bugs in BTS by

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-23 Thread Ed Cogburn
Martin Schulze wrote: Aaron M. Ucko wrote: While convenient for american developers, there are rather a number of non-american developers who will not set foot on American soil, due in part to the DMCA and (I imagine) the apparent dangers to non-americans coming into the country. Two of the people

More bugs.debian.org MIME work

2003-05-23 Thread Colin Watson
Hi, bugs.debian.org's web interface now decodes each part of MIME messages for display, so for example quoted-printable and (God forbid) base64-encoded text is now displayed in a readable form. In addition, attachments are now only displayed as a download link rather than as a download link plus

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-23 Thread Herbert Xu
Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Manoj emphasized[1] that using one single kernel source package per kernel version and maintaining several patch packages for each architecture which finally build our kernel-image-$version packages is possible. It seems that there is some confusion

Re: More bugs.debian.org MIME work

2003-05-23 Thread Michael Banck
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 11:20:32AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: bugs.debian.org's web interface now decodes each part of MIME messages for display, so for example quoted-printable and (God forbid) base64-encoded text is now displayed in a readable form. In addition, attachments are now only

Re: More bugs.debian.org MIME work

2003-05-23 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 11:20:32AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: Hi, bugs.debian.org's web interface now decodes each part of MIME messages for display, so for example quoted-printable and (God forbid) base64-encoded text is now displayed in a readable form. In addition, attachments are now

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-23 Thread Guido Guenther
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 05:58:15PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: That's not a problem, you just have to run diff between the source tree for the platform in question and the Linus tree. This only works if we have a _clean_ kernel-source-2.X.Y package. One of the reasons why maintaining

Re: More bugs.debian.org MIME work

2003-05-23 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 01:45:58PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: Is there any chance of these changes being merged into the debbugs package? It's last update is over a year old... Actually the last upload to experimental was Sun, 17 Nov 2002. But yes, there should really be an upload to

Bug#194442: ITP: libcodetext-perl -- Syntax Highlighting for Tk

2003-05-23 Thread Marc Leeman
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-05-23 Severity: wishlist * Package name: libcodetext-perl Version : 0.3.1 Upstream Author : Hans Jeuken [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://cpan.org/ * License : GPL Description : Syntax Highlighting for Tk

Re: More bugs.debian.org MIME work

2003-05-23 Thread Steve Kowalik
At 10:27 pm, Friday, May 23 2003, Wouter Verhelst mumbled: Is there any chance of these changes being merged into the debbugs package? It's last update is over a year old... debbugs_2.4_all.deb 18-Nov-2002 22:0280k Not quite. Well, that's experimental, but whatever. --

Bug#194443: ITP: libsyntaxhighlight-perl -- Highlighting of Syntactical Structures

2003-05-23 Thread Marc Leeman
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-05-23 Severity: wishlist * Package name: libsyntaxhighlight-perl Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Cory Johns [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://cpan.org * License : GPL Description : Highlighting of

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Re: More bugs.debian.org MIME work

2003-05-23 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 01:56:46PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 01:45:58PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: Is there any chance of these changes being merged into the debbugs package? It's last update is over a year old... Actually the last upload to experimental was

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-23 Thread Alan Shutko
Glenn McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 22 May 2003 12:20:39 -0500 Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me clue all of you in: anyone who takes a stand and tries to hurt the US economy, I see as a taking action inimical to me, and my loved ones, and I do *NOT* see

Re: Orphaning my packages

2003-05-23 Thread Goulais, Raphael
On Friday 23 May 2003 03:52, Aaron M. Ucko wrote: Morgon Kanter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: None taken. And no, I am not. [a DD] OK, then, I'm going ahead and taking fltk1.1. Does this mean that debian policy is that DD have priority over a non-DD ? Perhaps Morgon wants to become a DD ... and

Unofficial projects related with Debian.

2003-05-23 Thread Gustavo Franco
Hi, Why Debian Desktop subproject is on official website and many others[1] aren't? The Debian Desktop is a good initiative, but there are many others that are being excluded from the website.I've some ideas: - Guidelines to Debian subprojects (Do you known what are the official and unofficial

Re: Accepted directory-administrator 1.3.5-1 (i386 source)

2003-05-23 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 11:28:34AM +0200, Michael Banck wrote: And it generally causes confusion in bug submitters' mind: how many of them knows the difference between a fixed and a closed bug? A brief note about NMU changes incorporation in changelog and closing those bugs in BTS by hand

Re: More bugs.debian.org MIME work

2003-05-23 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 11:20:32AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: bugs.debian.org's web interface now decodes each part of MIME messages for display, so for example quoted-printable and (God forbid) base64-encoded text is now displayed in a readable form. I should mention also that to get a

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-23 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 09:04:05AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: To make it more interesting, Matt Zimmerman revealed[2] that merging all kernel source packages would save space of one CD from our archive and our CD images. I was probably exaggerating slightly; I did not do the calculations.

Re: Orphaning my packages

2003-05-23 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 04:28:59PM +0200, Goulais, Raphael wrote: None taken. And no, I am not. [a DD] OK, then, I'm going ahead and taking fltk1.1. Does this mean that debian policy is that DD have priority over a non-DD ? Perhaps Morgon wants to become a DD ... and packaging fltk1.1

Re: Unofficial projects related with Debian.

2003-05-23 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 11:58:45AM -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote: Why Debian Desktop subproject is on official website and many others[1] aren't? You're on crack. http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-desktop/ It's hard to discern useful information when you start out by showing you haven't done

Re: Unofficial projects related with Debian.

2003-05-23 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 11:58:45AM -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote: Hi, Why Debian Desktop subproject is on official website and many others[1] aren't? The Debian Desktop is a good initiative, but there are many others that are being excluded from the website.I've some ideas: - Guidelines to

Re: Unofficial projects related with Debian.

2003-05-23 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 05:51:14PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 11:58:45AM -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote: Why Debian Desktop subproject is on official website and many others[1] aren't? You're on crack. http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-desktop/ It's hard to discern

Re: More bugs.debian.org MIME work

2003-05-23 Thread Adam Heath
On Fri, 23 May 2003, Colin Watson wrote: bugs.debian.org's web interface now decodes each part of MIME messages for display, so for example quoted-printable and (God forbid) base64-encoded text is now displayed in a readable form. In addition, attachments are now only displayed as a download

Re: Orphaning my packages

2003-05-23 Thread Chris Butler
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 04:58:05PM +0200, Stefan Schwandter wrote: spiralsynthmodular (http://www.pawfal.org/Software/SSM/) : a modular software synth. Needs fltk. I'll take this one. -- Chris pgpFjKF7aVL4U.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Orphaning my packages

2003-05-23 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Goulais, Raphael [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does this mean that debian policy is that DD have priority over a non-DD ? Perhaps Morgon wants to become a DD ... and packaging fltk1.1 could be an interesting work for him, and could give him some help in the process of displaying interest to the

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-23 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Marc Singer wrote: (Unintentionally, I first sent the reply to you directly.) On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 02:09:24PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: Incidentally North America != USA. And your point is, what? that north america contains not one, but three countries: Candada, USA, and Mexico

Re: More bugs.debian.org MIME work

2003-05-23 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 11:58:39AM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: On Fri, 23 May 2003, Colin Watson wrote: bugs.debian.org's web interface now decodes each part of MIME messages for display, so for example quoted-printable and (God forbid) base64-encoded text is now displayed in a readable form.

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, 23 May 2003 12:21:05 +1000, Glenn McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thu, 22 May 2003 12:20:39 -0500 Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me clue all of you in: anyone who takes a stand and tries to hurt the US economy, I see as a taking action inimical to me, and my loved

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, 22 May 2003 20:55:31 -0700, Marc Singer [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Perhaps we can look at this a different way. I haven't read anyone voicing the opinion that GWB (can't say the name of the beast out loud) is a 'good fellow'. I'm supposing that all of us agree that he's a snake-oil

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, 22 May 2003 12:43:22 -0500, Gunnar Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: It may be too little if only one person does it... But I know *MANY* people who simply will avoid (to de extent possible in Mexico, at least) buying any American goods. In my particular cas -and I think many other

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, 23 May 2003 12:38:09 +1000, Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Fri, 23 May 2003 03:20, Manoj Srivastava wrote: You are taking personal actions inimical to the standard of living of me and my loved ones in retaliation for actions by my government (which I have little control

Re: Unofficial projects related with Debian.

2003-05-23 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 2003.05.23 12:51, Josip Rodin wrote: On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 11:58:45AM -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote: Why Debian Desktop subproject is on official website and many others[1] aren't? You're on crack. http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-desktop/ It's hard to discern useful information when you

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-23 Thread Marc Singer
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 10:03:38AM -0700, John H. Robinson, IV wrote: Marc Singer wrote: (Unintentionally, I first sent the reply to you directly.) On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 02:09:24PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: Incidentally North America != USA. And your point is, what? that

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-23 Thread Amaya
Stephen Frost dijo: Those who have concerns or political issues need not attend but that should not stop the conference from happening if there are enough people who are interested. Absolutely true, but I found Canada much mor affordable than the States last summer ;-) -- I would

Re: Unofficial projects related with Debian.

2003-05-23 Thread Mathieu Roy
I don't think there is any definition for what an official Debian subproject is. And even if there were, whether it's on www.debian.org or not would not be a reliable indicator. I choose to use www.d.o for Debian Jr. because it is convenient for me to keep the pages there. Other

Re: Unofficial projects related with Debian.

2003-05-23 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 07:37:21PM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: The fact a project is hosted somewhere usually imply some special relations to his host. Sure. So even if, for Debian people, being hosted on www.debian.org is not a reliable indicator, it's highly possible that many persons rely

Re: Unofficial projects related with Debian.

2003-05-23 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 2003.05.23 13:56, Ben Armstrong wrote: [...] Debian Jr. is a personal subproject[0] within Debian. It is my chosen area of focus for Debian, and as such, the only blessing I have had from the Debian project for it is the little parcel of web space I have for the Debian Jr. home page

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-23 Thread Matt Ryan
If your countrymen share that sort of attitute it explains why the USA is in so many wars. Yeah. We rarely suffer fools gladly. Stop it, you're killing me. People from the USA describing others as fools. One only has to look at the dross in US newspapers and TV news bulletins to understand

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-23 Thread Mathieu Roy
My government may do things in a fashion that could be improved (to put it mildly), but as a people, we are generally benevolent, until something impinges on our consciousness and makes us take notice. And given our collective attention span, it takes a lot. I'm not a DD but I

Re: Unofficial projects related with Debian.

2003-05-23 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 2003.05.23 15:10, Ben Armstrong wrote: [...] That being said, I do believe we need a better (more comprehensive) list of such projects with higher visibility on the web site. But that list will likely consist of pointers both to www.d.o and other sites (people.debian.org, alioth, and

Re: Unofficial projects related with Debian.

2003-05-23 Thread Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo
El día 23 may 2003, Gustavo Franco escribía: Hi, Why Debian Desktop subproject is on official website and many others[1] aren't? The Debian Desktop is a good initiative, but there are many others that are being excluded from the website.I've some ideas: - Guidelines to Debian subprojects

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-23 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Thu, 22 May 2003, Marc Singer wrote: Perhaps we can look at this a different way. I haven't read anyone voicing the opinion that GWB (can't say the name of the beast out loud) is a 'good fellow'. Well since you asked. I think GWB is a 'good fellow'. I'm supposing that all of us agree

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-23 Thread Michael Banck
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 07:07:19PM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote: If your countrymen share that sort of attitute it explains why the USA is in so many wars. Yeah. We rarely suffer fools gladly. Stop it, you're killing me. People from the USA describing others as fools. One only has to look

Re: Unofficial projects related with Debian.

2003-05-23 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 2003.05.23 16:06, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote: [...] Just because nobody proposed it? debian-lex started no so much ago, and it was simply somebody proposing it and creating and mantaining it. BTW, apt-get install subproject-howto Hi, I guess that subproject-howto can be the

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-23 Thread Jarno Elonen
That's funny considering just how many people are risking their LIVES to get here. Then again, maybe its not, maybe its an insult to the ones who've died trying to get here over the years. I don't think not wanting to go somewhere is an insult to other people who do want to go there. The

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-23 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 03:14:48PM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: On Thu, 22 May 2003, Marc Singer wrote: Perhaps we can look at this a different way. I haven't read anyone voicing the opinion that GWB (can't say the name of the beast out loud) is a 'good fellow'. Well since you

Re: Unofficial projects related with Debian.

2003-05-23 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 04:56:06PM -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote: I guess that subproject-howto can be the start to 'Debian Subproject Guidelines' or 'Debian Subproject Policy'.What do you think, Ben? Sure, it could be a start. The subproject-howto is intended to be a hands-on guide to

Re: Unofficial projects related with Debian.

2003-05-23 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 03:01:46PM -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote: That being said, there is certainly a difference between projects which fork Debian to make a new distro (i.e. providing own versions of existing Debian packages) vs. projects which add packages of their own (outside Debian)

Re: Getting hostname

2003-05-23 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Matt Zimmerman] a) Can I get the hostname in my shell script another way (this could be a question for this list)? getent hosts foo.bar.baz getent is available on Linux and Solaris (7 and 8). It is not available on Tru64 Unix 5.2, Irix 6.5.15, Mac OS X 10.2, HP-UX (11.00 and 11.22) and AIX

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-23 Thread Matt Ryan
Michael Banck wrote: /me invokes azeem's law[0]. This thread has ended. [0] Whenever Matt Ryan enters a Flamewar, no more non-value can be added to it and therefore the thread will die. I'm not sure why you see my input as non-value? Surely its not the fact that a bunch of tightly wound geeks

autobuild request: make config.log available

2003-05-23 Thread Derek Atkins
Hi, I'm one of the core maintainers of GnuCash. The Debian Maintainer has asked for my help in debugging some of the autobuild problems with various Debian platforms. Unfortunately he cannot provide sufficient information to help debug the problem. In particular, part of the problem appears to

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-23 Thread geordie
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 12:10:35PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Fri, 23 May 2003 12:38:09 +1000, Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: PPS Be grateful that you have more control over your government than I have over mine. My government obeys yours. So you can't control your

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-23 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 23 May 2003, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: My only objection to a conference in the US is the weather is miserable. Which part of the US? Surely the weather in Los Angeles isn't miserable... unless you consider the total absense of weather to be miserable. I want to go somewhere warm! 107F

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-23 Thread David Nusinow
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 03:14:48PM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: My only objection to a conference in the US is the weather is miserable. I want to go somewhere warm! You want warm? Come out to Southern California, Florida, or Hawaii for warm weather pretty much the whole year 'round. We don't

Very uneven distribution of packages per maintainer

2003-05-23 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
I just ran some stats on my APT sources (mostly Woody), and discovered that the distribution of number of packages per developer is very uneven. This is the histogram of developers with the specific number of packages they maintain: Packages Developers 1 239 2

Re: Getting hostname

2003-05-23 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 11:11:57PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [Matt Zimmerman] a) Can I get the hostname in my shell script another way (this could be a question for this list)? getent hosts foo.bar.baz getent is available on Linux and Solaris (7 and 8). It is not available

Re: autobuild request: make config.log available

2003-05-23 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Derek Atkins] In particular, part of the problem appears to happen during the configure phase. In order to debug the configuration problem I need access to the config.log during the failed build process. This can be fixed in the package build script (debian/rules). Just call configure like

Re: More bugs.debian.org MIME work

2003-05-23 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 05:01:51PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 11:20:32AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: bugs.debian.org's web interface now decodes each part of MIME messages for display, so for example quoted-printable and (God forbid) base64-encoded text is now

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-23 Thread Herbert Xu
Guido Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This only works if we have a _clean_ kernel-source-2.X.Y package. One of the reasons why maintaining kernel-patch-2.X.Y-arch packages is such a pain is the asymmetry between i386 and other arches - almost every time a new kernel-source package is

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-23 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, 22 May 2003, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Thu, 22 May 2003 22:39:02 +1000, Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thu, 22 May 2003 17:06, Miles Bader wrote: You mean the iraq war? What's the point? How is avoiding the U.S. going to help anything, regardless of how strongly you

What makes a debconf?

2003-05-23 Thread Joe Drew
I have no objection to the existence of a Debian conference in the US, particularly given that people are clamouring for one. (I probably won't go, though.) However, I have been bothered by something for a while now: there is no real way to distinguish debconf from some other Debian

Re: Very uneven distribution of packages per maintainer

2003-05-23 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Petter Reinholdtsen | I suspect a more even distribution of packages per maintainer would be | a good thing. :) I think your stats are wrong, at least they are different from http://www.debian.gr.jp/~kitame/maint.cgi Not necessarily -- some packages are a lot of work, like xfree, glibc,

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-23 Thread Alan Shutko
Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The citizens of the US have a little more power than the rest of the world, in that you have a *vote* as to who gets to fuck the rest of the world. Well, didn't work that way last time... -- Alan Shutko [EMAIL PROTECTED] - I am the rocks. Looking

Re: Very uneven distribution of packages per maintainer

2003-05-23 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Not necessarily -- some packages are a lot of work, like xfree, glibc, apache, some are a decent amount of work, like mailman, cvs and some are close to zero work, like chrpath and xslide. People also have different amounts of time available -- those who are paid to do Debian maintainence

Re: What makes a debconf?

2003-05-23 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Do we need some method of deciding what constitutes 'the' Debconf? Or maybe we need to be more freeform. There is no inherent betterness of say the Oslo conference over one held near Washington, DC. Maybe there are 4 of them one year and only one the next. Maybe we start holding one every

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-23 Thread Philip Charles
On Fri, 23 May 2003, Alan Shutko wrote: Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The citizens of the US have a little more power than the rest of the world, in that you have a *vote* as to who gets to fuck the rest of the world. Well, didn't work that way last time... Maybe the US

Re: Very uneven distribution of packages per maintainer

2003-05-23 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 05:26:28PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: So, why do you think having a more even distribution is a good thing? Or rather, why is the current situation so bad? indeed. Some packages are worth 10 normal packages in the amount of work they require. And a

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-23 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Manoj Srivastava dijo [Fri, May 23, 2003 at 12:05:08AM -0500]: It is easy to take actions secure in the feeling that there are no consequences (which seems to be part of your complaint against my goverment). Not at all. I know that if your economy suffers, mine suffers doubly so.

Re: Unofficial projects related with Debian.

2003-05-23 Thread David B Harris
On Fri, 23 May 2003 11:58:45 -0300 Gustavo Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Why Debian Desktop subproject is on official website and many others[1] aren't? The Debian Desktop is a good initiative, but there are many others that are being excluded from the website.I've some ideas: -

Re: Very uneven distribution of packages per maintainer

2003-05-23 Thread Ben Collins
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 11:53:05PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: I just ran some stats on my APT sources (mostly Woody), and discovered that the distribution of number of packages per developer is very uneven. This is the histogram of developers with the specific number of packages they

Re: What makes a debconf?

2003-05-23 Thread David B Harris
On Fri, 23 May 2003 17:33:58 -0700 Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Debconf is about Debian developers trying to meet other devels and users. Its about trying to make us a stronger organization. Its about hacking and all of the other reasons we love Debian. Treating it like a

Re: Very uneven distribution of packages per maintainer

2003-05-23 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 05:26:28PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: Not necessarily -- some packages are a lot of work, like xfree, glibc, apache, some are a decent amount of work, like mailman, cvs and some are close to zero work, like chrpath and xslide. People also have different

Re: Very uneven distribution of packages per maintainer

2003-05-23 Thread Adam Heath
On Sat, 24 May 2003, Wouter Verhelst wrote: The script can't even get everything a Debian Developer does for Debian. While most, if not all, active Debian Developers do packaging work, there's other stuff to be done -- such as taking care of autobuilders, being a sysadmin, ftp-master,

Re: Very uneven distribution of packages per maintainer

2003-05-23 Thread Adam Heath
On Fri, 23 May 2003, Ben Collins wrote: Oh no, the Collins family has 2 acres per child...those poor kids! Uh, you say that 3.5 acres of your yard is a lake? Dredging. With a snorkel.

Re: Problema al firmar .dsc y .changes

2003-05-23 Thread José Pelegrín
El Viernes, 23 de Mayo de 2003 13:50, Celso González dijo: Al hacer dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot obtengo lo siguiente [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/ap-utils-1.3.1$ dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot dpkg-buildpackage: source package is ap-utils dpkg-buildpackage: source version is 1.3.1-2 dpkg-buildpackage:

Re: Problema al firmar .dsc y .changes

2003-05-23 Thread Manuel Samper
Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo, a las 14:17 CEST del viernes 23 may 2003, comentó: El día 23 may 2003, Celso González escribía: Al hacer dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot obtengo lo siguiente [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/ap-utils-1.3.1$ dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot dpkg-buildpackage: source package is ap-utils

Re: nuevo y pregunta

2003-05-23 Thread Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo
El día 23 may 2003, Jesús Roncero escribía: El Jueves, 22 de Mayo de 2003 18:27, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo se atrevió a teclear: investigando. Hacer un paquete único así, con este, me ha resultado en cierto punto fácil, pero supongo que la aproximación para tratar este software (los dos

Re: [debian-br]Debian no FISL2003

2003-05-23 Thread Roberto Mello
On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 11:04:48PM -0300, Ricardo Bimbo wrote: Sou Ricardo Bimbo do Governo Eletrônico da Prefeitura de São Paulo. Fazemos os projeto Telecentros e temos 57 unidades abertas (serão 107 até agosto) usamos Debian em todos os nossos Telecentros e até hoje já oferecemos cursos a