Re: Bits from the Debian GNU/Hurd porters

2014-05-22 Thread heroxbd
Hey Michael, Michael Banck mba...@debian.org writes: This is an update to the last Debian GNU/Hurd bits from February 2012[0] [...] Thank you very much for this comprehensive wrap up. I am excited to see these advancements around GNU/Hurd, so excited that I am seriously planning to install

Balance of portability and maintenance burden (Re: default init on non-Linux platforms)

2014-02-23 Thread heroxbd
Hey Adrian, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de writes: That's correct. However, the problem with kFreeBSD is that I - as a package maintainer - have to invest extra time to make sure my packages don't FTBFS on these architectures as otherwise my packages wouldn't be

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-23 Thread heroxbd
Dear Kevin, Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk writes: The benefit that Linux and even firefox etc. has gained from OpenBSD's practically paranoid bug fixing as well as finding the bugs for all the platforms it's userland still runs on especially in compiler tools should be realised and

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-21 Thread heroxbd
Dear Adrian, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de writes: So, OpenRC actually also relies on files - like System V Init - to track the state of a service? Isn't that approach somewhat unreliable and hacky? I bet you are going to tell me the only reliable and non-hacky way

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-21 Thread heroxbd
Dear Adrian, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de writes: On 02/21/2014 01:00 PM, hero...@gentoo.org wrote: So, OpenRC actually also relies on files - like System V Init - to track the state of a service? Isn't that approach somewhat unreliable and hacky? I bet you are

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-20 Thread heroxbd
Hey Ondřej, Ondřej Surý ond...@sury.org writes: I have split openrc into openrc and openrc-sysv moving the conflicting parts to openrc-sysv on my system, and it install just fine, but running script with /sbin/openrc-run needs: mkdir -p /run/openrc touch /run/openrc/softlevel and then it

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-19 Thread heroxbd
Hi Tollef, Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no writes: It's probably better to just contribute your changes to the sysv-rc version and so make that one able to manage openrc in addition to the others it already knows how to. No point in forking it. Forking was a decision made by me in the early

Re: Upstart support for LSB headers (Two line init.d scripts? Sure, that will work!)

2014-02-07 Thread heroxbd
Sergey B Kirpichev skirpic...@gmail.com writes: http://packages.qa.debian.org/m/monit.html Usually, you want to start this service last and stop first. The question is, before or after rc.local? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe.

Re: File naming of scripts in /etc/init.d

2014-02-05 Thread heroxbd
Petter Reinholdtsen petter.reinholdt...@usit.uio.no writes: Before concurrent running of init.d scripts were implemented in sysv-rc, the .sh scripts would be sourced by /etc/init.d/rc and /etc/init.d/rcS while the non-.sh scripts would be executed. This distinciton were removed when sysv-rc

Re: porting OpenRC on kFreeBSD and Hurd

2014-01-25 Thread heroxbd
Hey Svante, Svante Signell svante.sign...@gmail.com writes: Good news: openrc now boots fine on GNU/Hurd with a patched sysvinit, see #721917 Good job! and soon to be updated patches of openrc (0.12.4+20131230-7) side note: 0.12.4+20131230-7 is already in tree

Re: porting OpenRC on kFreeBSD and Hurd

2014-01-25 Thread heroxbd
Hey Svante, Svante Signell svante.sign...@gmail.com writes: Good news: openrc now boots fine on GNU/Hurd with a patched sysvinit, see #721917 Good job! and soon to be updated patches of openrc (0.12.4+20131230-7) side note: 0.12.4+20131230-7 is already in tree

Re: porting OpenRC to Debian GNU/kFreeBSD

2013-10-30 Thread heroxbd
Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org writes: I'm very happy to tell everyone that this is *FIXED* !!! http://youtu.be/zoNoi8BgQjs :D :D :D Wow. That's absolutely great zigo! Although the Caching service dependencies seems to be a regression to me months ago, where the cache should be generated

Re: debian ova instance generator

2013-10-10 Thread heroxbd
Dear Lars, Lars Wirzenius l...@liw.fi writes: You can also just create usr/sbin/policy-rc.d as a shell script that exits with 101, which may or may not be easier to deal with. Like this: cat EOF $rootdir/usr/sbin/policy-rc.d #!/bin/sh exit 101 EOF chmod a+x

debian ova instance generator

2013-10-06 Thread heroxbd
Dear fellows, This is a simple Makefile which generates ova[1] of customized debian, inpired by an ova build script of sagemath[2], and a guide from archlinux[5]. It is a by-product of AireLinux[3], a customized Debian for astrophysics. It basically creates a hdd image with debian

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-19 Thread heroxbd
Hi William, William Giokas 1007...@gmail.com writes: * 'Graphical UI: yes': Nope. side note: it is from http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/why.html Cheers, Benda pgpLYHGdS_e5Z.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-19 Thread heroxbd
Dear Russ, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes: I would *hope* a lot of Debian developers would do things like that, for any of the options! There's no substitute for actually trying the software and seeing how easy it is to use, how well it works, and how difficult it is to support. There

modern features and OpenRC (was: Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports)

2013-07-19 Thread heroxbd
Dear all, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de writes: Says the guy who posted this to back up his chain of arguments: http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Talk:Comparison_of_init_systems Excuse me for hijacking this reply. On the wiki page. I revised it into present form last

Re: openrc packaging status (Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports)

2013-07-15 Thread heroxbd
Dear Guys, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org writes: one which is at least installable with apt-get + sid sources. that's still not the case, despite 684396 being announced here a year ago. (Replying generally) There seems to be some doubts concerning why #684396 has taken a whole year

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-15 Thread heroxbd
Helmut Grohne hel...@subdivi.de writes: By far the more severe issue is socket activation, because it removes the need to spell out service dependencies. We cannot infer these dependencies later on. Instead such a wrapper must implement socket activation in order to work correctly. This is

Re: Bug#684396: ITP: openrc -- alternative boot mechanism

2012-08-10 Thread heroxbd
Dear Guys, Thanks a lot for the input from Marco d'Itri, Holger Levsen and Thomas Goirand, as well as Aron Xu off list. m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) writes: openrc was recently discussed on debian-devel@ and there was a large consensus that it is not a credible alternative to upstart and