Re: Alioth tracker

2014-06-25 Thread Raphael Hertzog
FTR I used to be an Alioth admin, so I have some experience with the work involved. On Wed, 25 Jun 2014, Russell Stuart wrote: Sorry to be blunt Raphael, but your response looks like a series of platitudes designed to settle down the politics. Alioth's maintenance is in serious trouble. It

Re: Alioth tracker

2014-06-25 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014, Raphael Hertzog wrote: FTR I used to be an Alioth admin, so I have some experience with the work involved. On Wed, 25 Jun 2014, Russell Stuart wrote: Sorry to be blunt Raphael, but your response looks like a series of platitudes designed to settle down the politics.

Re: Alioth tracker

2014-06-25 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 25/06/2014 08:49, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : This happened a few times already but only with well know DD. For what it's worth, Ole is well known an respected in the area in which he has contributed most, the Debian Astro team, which he created. Kind regards, Thibaut. signature.asc

Re: Re: Alioth tracker

2014-06-24 Thread Ole Streicher
Hi Tollef and all, I'm not disagreeing, I think we're providing a much poorer service level for Alioth than what we should do. Sadly, I don't have the motivation to spend much time there nowadays. So what should we do here? Since you are listed as the first person on the site admin page of

Re: Re: Alioth tracker

2014-06-24 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 24 Jun 2014, Ole Streicher wrote: I can imagine that behind any of the tickets on alioth there is a story like this, so I don't want to bring my one onto the front. So, how do we get rid of the ~200 open support requests? Join the team handling alioth and start working on those

Re: Alioth tracker

2014-06-24 Thread Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr
Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org writes: On Tue, 24 Jun 2014, Ole Streicher wrote: I can imagine that behind any of the tickets on alioth there is a story like this, so I don't want to bring my one onto the front. So, how do we get rid of the ~200 open support requests? Join the team

Re: Alioth tracker

2014-06-24 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 24 Jun 2014, Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr wrote: I thought that usually such requests should be done through an request for help? (Is that valid for pseudo packages like a hypothetical alioth one?) If the alioth admin team would openly request for help (maybe on the Debian-News?), they may gain more

Re: Alioth tracker

2014-06-24 Thread Russell Stuart
On Tue, 2014-06-24 at 18:05 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2014, Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr wrote: I thought that usually such requests should be done through an request for help? (Is that valid for pseudo packages like a hypothetical alioth one?) If the alioth admin team would openly

Re: Alioth tracker

2014-06-24 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Raphael Hertzog: On Tue, 24 Jun 2014, Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr wrote: I thought that usually such requests should be done through an request for help? (Is that valid for pseudo packages like a hypothetical alioth one?) If the alioth admin team would openly request for help (maybe on the

Re: Alioth tracker

2014-05-12 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 12, 2014, at 07:57 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: For mailing lists, I read in the thread that it may not be a problem anyway, but I just wanted to add one thing: in many cases the lists to be created are a maintainer list and a commit list, and this could be replaced completely by the “new

mailman3 in Debian [was Re: Alioth tracker]

2014-05-12 Thread Clint Adams
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 10:02:35AM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote: I don't have time to work on Alioth, but JFTR, we (the GNU Mailman development team) recently announced the first full-suite beta release for Mailman 3. It's possible that even with the usual beta-quality issues, that MM3 would make

Re: mailman3 in Debian [was Re: Alioth tracker]

2014-05-12 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Mon, May 12, 2014 17:00, Clint Adams wrote: On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 10:02:35AM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote: I don't have time to work on Alioth, but JFTR, we (the GNU Mailman development team) recently announced the first full-suite beta release for Mailman 3. It's possible that even with the

Re: mailman3 in Debian [was Re: Alioth tracker]

2014-05-12 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 12, 2014, at 05:46 PM, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: Mailman 3 is completely different from Mailman 3 and I see no synergy in basing anything on the existing package. As of now, to my knowledge no migration or upgrade scenarios exist from MM 2 to MM 3, and I'm not sure if such code will be there

Re: Alioth tracker

2014-05-11 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 08/05/14 12:27, Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr wrote: Hi, is someone processing the items on the Alioth tracker? There are currently 184 reuqests open, some trivial requests already since two years (like [1]). I filed a ticket there a month ago, and still did not get any response yet. What

Re: Alioth tracker

2014-05-11 Thread Jörg Frings-Fürst
Hi, Am Sonntag, den 11.05.2014, 15:58 +0200 schrieb Daniel Pocock: On 08/05/14 12:27, Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr wrote: Hi, is someone processing the items on the Alioth tracker? [...] Other people have had problems with alioth too: - write permissions on VCS directory for new projects

Re: Alioth tracker

2014-05-11 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Daniel Pocock (2014-05-11 15:58:50) On 08/05/14 12:27, Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr wrote: is someone processing the items on the Alioth tracker? Thanks for raising that general question here, Ole. I have been wondering too. Other people have had problems with alioth too: [details snipped

Re: Alioth tracker

2014-05-11 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Daniel Pocock On 08/05/14 12:27, Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr wrote: What is the reason that the processing there is so slow? Is there a way to change that? I think it's quite clear and has been for a while that we need more active admins for Alioth. Other people have had problems with alioth too:

Re: Alioth tracker

2014-05-11 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 11/05/14 18:26, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: ]] Daniel Pocock On 08/05/14 12:27, Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr wrote: What is the reason that the processing there is so slow? Is there a way to change that? I think it's quite clear and has been for a while that we need more active admins for Alioth.

Re: Alioth tracker

2014-05-11 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Daniel Pocock On 11/05/14 18:26, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: ]] Daniel Pocock On 08/05/14 12:27, Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr wrote: What is the reason that the processing there is so slow? Is there a way to change that? I think it's quite clear and has been for a while that we need more

Re: Alioth tracker

2014-05-11 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sun, May 11, 2014 at 03:58:50PM +0200, Daniel Pocock a écrit : Other people have had problems with alioth too: - write permissions on VCS directory for new projects - mailing list creation requests waiting for admin approval Thanks Daniel for raising the issue. For mailing lists, I

Re: Alioth tracker

2014-05-11 Thread Russell Stuart
On Sun, 2014-05-11 at 21:38 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: I'm not disagreeing, I think we're providing a much poorer service level for Alioth than what we should do. Sadly, I don't have the motivation to spend much time there nowadays. I have for years hosted my own projects in a minimalistic

Re: Alioth tracker

2014-05-11 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Russell Stuart wrote: sourceforge is closed source. That is no longer the case, sourceforge folks implemented a new codebase called Allura, are running it, released it under the Apache license and continue to develop it as an Apache Software Foundation project.

Alioth tracker

2014-05-08 Thread Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr
Hi, is someone processing the items on the Alioth tracker? There are currently 184 reuqests open, some trivial requests already since two years (like [1]). I filed a ticket there a month ago, and still did not get any response yet. What is the reason that the processing there is so slow

Re: Alioth Tracker: no correspondence to BTS?

2006-07-11 Thread Toni Mueller
Hello, On Sun, 09.07.2006 at 22:15:40 +0200, Christian Perrier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We (iso-codes maintenance team and, more precisely Tobias Toedter) discovered that some people reported bugs in the Alioth BTS (or tracker?) without us even knowing about it..:-) I've seen a very

Alioth Tracker: no correspondence to BTS?

2006-07-09 Thread Toni Mueller
Hello, I've just poked around a bit in Alioth for a project I'm working on and found a bug report with a bug number that has no resemblance to anything in BTS, quite contrary to my initial assumption. Imho this would only make sense if integrating these two is hard, and if non-Debian projects

Re: Alioth Tracker: no correspondence to BTS?

2006-07-09 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Toni Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.07.09.2017 +0200]: I've just poked around a bit in Alioth for a project I'm working on and found a bug report with a bug number that has no resemblance to anything in BTS, quite contrary to my initial assumption. Imho this would only make sense

Re: Alioth Tracker: no correspondence to BTS?

2006-07-09 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Toni Mueller] I've just poked around a bit in Alioth for a project I'm working on and found a bug report with a bug number that has no resemblance to anything in BTS, quite contrary to my initial assumption. Yeah, the sourceforge software includes a primitive bug tracker which, as far as I

Re: Alioth Tracker: no correspondence to BTS?

2006-07-09 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 09 July 2006 21:29, Peter Samuelson wrote: I've just poked around a bit in Alioth for a project I'm working on and found a bug report with a bug number that has no resemblance to anything in BTS, quite contrary to my initial assumption. Yeah, the sourceforge software includes a

Re: Alioth Tracker: no correspondence to BTS?

2006-07-09 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Peter Samuelson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Yeah, I couldn't tell you why that feature is even enabled on alioth. Do people actually use it? I certainly never check the tracker for alioth projects I'm involved with; I just assume people will use the Debian BTS instead. We (iso-codes

Re: Alioth Tracker: no correspondence to BTS?

2006-07-09 Thread Nigel Jones
On 7/10/06, Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 09 July 2006 21:29, Peter Samuelson wrote: I've just poked around a bit in Alioth for a project I'm working on and found a bug report with a bug number that has no resemblance to anything in BTS, quite contrary to my initial

Re: Alioth Tracker: no correspondence to BTS?

2006-07-09 Thread Roland Mas
Peter Samuelson, 2006-07-09 21:30:11 +0200 : [Toni Mueller] I've just poked around a bit in Alioth for a project I'm working on and found a bug report with a bug number that has no resemblance to anything in BTS, quite contrary to my initial assumption. Yeah, the sourceforge software