Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-20 Thread Guilherme de S. Pastore
Em Qua, 2005-05-11 s 03:07 -0500, Jaime Ochoa Malagn escreveu: Hi everybody, Hello, I'm only have a doubt, if someone make a mirror of the official debian (including non-free) and all that packages are ditributed is in danger to being sued? Non-free is only *distributed* by Debian, it's

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-11 Thread Ed Cogburn
On Sunday 08 May 2005 4:23pm, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Ed Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sunday 08 May 2005 09:27, Joerg Jaspert wrote: On 10283 March 1977, Ed Tomlinson wrote: Whats going on == someone needs to check it. Thats it. That was the point made by Ed Cogburn.

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-11 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ed Cogburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sunday 08 May 2005 4:23pm, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Ed Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sunday 08 May 2005 09:27, Joerg Jaspert wrote: On 10283 March 1977, Ed Tomlinson wrote: Whats going on == someone needs to check it. Thats it.

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-11 Thread =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jaime_Ochoa_Malag=F3n?=
Hi everybody, I'm only have a doubt, if someone make a mirror of the official debian (including non-free) and all that packages are ditributed is in danger to being sued? Accordingly with Goswin that's nothing about complain, only the main server of the distribution don't have non-free, the main

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-11 Thread Brett Parker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ed Cogburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip class=lotsofannoyingstuff / Yea, like annoying users by leaving non-free behind just because you're still mad that the DDs voted to keep it. Sure. I *am* an AMD64 user, and I can completely understand

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-11 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Ed Cogburn | We ARE Debian for Heaven's sake! I can't see that you've done anything at all for the AMD64 port, nor are you a DD. Please go troll somewhere else. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Ed Cogburn
On Sunday 08 May 2005 9:27am, Joerg Jaspert wrote: On 10283 March 1977, Ed Tomlinson wrote: Whats going on == someone needs to check it. Thats it. That was the point made by Ed Cogburn. Its already been checked in the other arch! If this is not the case please explain why. Without that

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Matthew Garrett
Ed Cogburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NO ONE IS GOING TO CARE ABOUT OUR NON-FREE! You're entirely right. After having to read that lot, I'd be impressed if anyone cared about making sure amd64 shipped with non-free. -- Matthew Garrett | [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ed Cogburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sunday 08 May 2005 9:27am, Joerg Jaspert wrote: On 10283 March 1977, Ed Tomlinson wrote: Whats going on == someone needs to check it. Thats it. That was the point made by Ed Cogburn. Its already been checked in the other arch! If this is not the

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Ed Cogburn
On Tuesday 10 May 2005 11:19am, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Ed Cogburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sunday 08 May 2005 9:27am, Joerg Jaspert wrote: In fact, looking through the non-free docs section, most of that can go in right now because they don't require anyone's permission to

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 01:07:30PM -0400, Ed Cogburn wrote: On Tuesday 10 May 2005 11:19am, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Ed Cogburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sunday 08 May 2005 9:27am, Joerg Jaspert wrote: In fact, looking through the non-free docs section, most of that can go in

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 01:07:30PM -0400, Ed Cogburn wrote: On Tuesday 10 May 2005 11:19am, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Seriously, get some patience and don't inflame the situation please. Things like most of that is of zero help in deciding what can go in and what not. We know most of it

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10285 March 1977, Ed Cogburn wrote: Will you pay us for the work and cover legal fees if any should arise? Sure. Because any rational person knows it won't happen. Laywers arent rationale. Give us one reasonable example of why some one would waste time and money to sue the

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread Ed Cogburn
On Tuesday 10 May 2005 3:22pm, Joerg Jaspert wrote: On 10285 March 1977, Ed Cogburn wrote: Will you pay us for the work and cover legal fees if any should arise? Sure. Because any rational person knows it won't happen. Laywers arent rationale. Give us one reasonable example of why

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-10 Thread David Nusinow
On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 12:34:57AM -0400, Ed Cogburn wrote: Snip lots of annoying crap Stop acting like such a spoiled child. You want non-free for amd64? Host it yourself until it gets moved officially. Don't like it? You've qualified for a full refund on your purchase. - David Nusinow --

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-08 Thread Ed Cogburn
On Friday 06 May 2005 11:22am, Joerg Jaspert wrote: Hi Note: non-free is NOT provided yet. We need to decide what we do with it, as we may be forbidden to distribute some of the software in it (we aren't Debian). Wait a second, if you *aren't* Debian, it should be *easier* for you to

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-08 Thread Cameron Patrick
Ed Cogburn wrote: Note: non-free is NOT provided yet. We need to decide what we do with it, as we may be forbidden to distribute some of the software in it (we aren't Debian). Wait a second, if you *aren't* Debian, it should be *easier* for you to provide non-free, not harder.

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-08 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, May 08, 2005 at 03:26:20AM -0400, Ed Cogburn wrote: On Friday 06 May 2005 11:22am, Joerg Jaspert wrote: Hi Note: non-free is NOT provided yet. We need to decide what we do with it, as we may be forbidden to distribute some of the software in it (we aren't Debian). Wait a

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-08 Thread Matthew Garrett
Ed Cogburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wait a second, if you *aren't* Debian, it should be *easier* for you to provide non-free, not harder. Permission to redistribute some bits of non-free may be specific to Debian. Alternatively, packages may be buildable but no permission to rebuild them

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-08 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10283 March 1977, Ed Cogburn wrote: Note: non-free is NOT provided yet. We need to decide what we do with it, as we may be forbidden to distribute some of the software in it (we aren't Debian). Wait a second, if you *aren't* Debian, it should be *easier* for you to provide non-free,

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-08 Thread Ed Tomlinson
On Sunday 08 May 2005 05:02, Joerg Jaspert wrote: On 10283 March 1977, Ed Cogburn wrote: Note: non-free is NOT provided yet. We need to decide what we do with it, as we may be forbidden to distribute some of the software in it (we aren't Debian). Wait a second, if you *aren't* Debian,

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-08 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10283 March 1977, Ed Tomlinson wrote: Whats going on == someone needs to check it. Thats it. That was the point made by Ed Cogburn. Its already been checked in the other arch! If this is not the case please explain why. Without that explanation I am forced to agree with Ed - the

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-08 Thread John Hasler
Ed Cogburn writes: Wait a second, if you *aren't* Debian, it should be *easier* for you to provide non-free, not harder. The only problem with non-free is the internal politics of Debian. Ubuntu certainly doesn't have any problem providing access to, but not support for, non-free. One of

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-08 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10283 March 1977, Ed Tomlinson wrote: Whats going on == someone needs to check it. Thats it. That was the point made by Ed Cogburn. Its already been checked in the other arch! If this is not the case please explain why. Without that explanation I am forced to agree with Ed -

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-08 Thread Ed Tomlinson
On Sunday 08 May 2005 09:27, Joerg Jaspert wrote: On 10283 March 1977, Ed Tomlinson wrote: Whats going on == someone needs to check it. Thats it. That was the point made by Ed Cogburn. Its already been checked in the other arch! If this is not the case please explain why. Without

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-08 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ed Cogburn writes: Wait a second, if you *aren't* Debian, it should be *easier* for you to provide non-free, not harder. The only problem with non-free is the internal politics of Debian. Ubuntu certainly doesn't have any problem providing access to,

Re: Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-08 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ed Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sunday 08 May 2005 09:27, Joerg Jaspert wrote: On 10283 March 1977, Ed Tomlinson wrote: Whats going on == someone needs to check it. Thats it. That was the point made by Ed Cogburn. Its already been checked in the other arch! If this is not

Debian AMD64 Archive Move

2005-05-06 Thread Joerg Jaspert
Hi As announced earlier the Debian AMD64 archive moved away from alioth on the weekend from April 30 til today, May 2. Well, we are still polishing some bits, but hey - 99% of it works. For the impatient here are the important things you need to know: - Modify /etc/apt/sources.list to include