Re: Switch to perl-5.005_02 ?

1998-10-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Raphael == Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Raphael Le Sat, Oct 03, 1998 at 07:21:06PM +0200, Richard Braakman écrivait: Let's wait till *after* the freeze and do that in the new unstable. I agree. Frankly, I think it's a bad idea to just break all those packages.

Re: formal documents

1998-10-04 Thread James Troup
Kikutani Makoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you accept a passport as the above formal documents ? Yes. [Though if there is any opportunity to meet another developer in real life and cross sign each others keys, this is the preferred method, where it's viable.] -- James

Re: gnome .debs

1998-10-04 Thread Martin Bialasinski
JM == Justin Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JM i have never used cvs-buildpackage, but would be willing to JM generate nightly .debs. what do people think of this? I and Marcus have trouble with cvs-buildpackage. Better wait/contact Manoj before you get into the strange problems we have.

Re: what's after slink

1998-10-04 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Sat, 3 Oct 1998, Martin Schulze wrote: Ben Gertzfield wrote: Here's what imdb.com says: Cast overview, first billed only: snip imdb.com lists the following named characters on the full cast page: Tom Hanks Woody (voice) Tim Allen Buzz Lightyear (voice) Don

Re: Switch to perl-5.005_02 ?

1998-10-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Raphael == Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Raphael Why not propose perl and perl-thread ? Each one would Raphael conflict with the other one, but that's not a problem. That *is* a problem. I would like to have both on my machine: the normal perl for production, and the

Re: what's after slink

1998-10-04 Thread Justin Maurer
ah, but imdb is missing one important character (at least!). rc! the radio control car! i say rc should be 2.2, as i have before. # Justin Maurer GNOME Hacker # [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian Developer #

Re: what's after slink

1998-10-04 Thread David Welton
On Sat, Oct 03, 1998 at 10:45:36PM -0400, Justin Maurer wrote: ah, but imdb is missing one important character (at least!). rc! the radio control car! i say rc should be 2.2, as i have before. Debian 2.2, on the FTP site, is called sid. If you guys want to discuss this, at least make it

Re: gnome .debs

1998-10-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Martin == Martin Bialasinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JM == Justin Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JM i have never used cvs-buildpackage, but would be willing to JM generate nightly .debs. what do people think of this? Martin I and Marcus have trouble with cvs-buildpackage. Better

Re: what's after slink

1998-10-04 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, 3 Oct 1998, David Welton wrote: : On Sat, Oct 03, 1998 at 10:45:36PM -0400, Justin Maurer wrote: : : ah, but imdb is missing one important character (at least!). : rc! the radio control car! : : i say rc should be 2.2, as i have before. : : Debian 2.2, on the FTP site, is

Re: XEmacs, TeX, and Re: Lengthy Debian install procedures

1998-10-04 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Wed, Sep 30, 1998 at 09:27:29PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree. It's too bad that he wasted time that he could have spent finishing _The Art of Computer Programming_ on trivia like typesetting. It's just that he realized that typesetting isn't trivia at all, but very interesting.

Re: what's after slink

1998-10-04 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sat, Oct 03, 1998 at 06:57:54AM -0700, Bob Nielsen wrote: I thought 2.2 was going to be rc, and 3.0 would be woody. Johnnie Ingram was pushing for that one, as were a few others. But didn't an even earlier discussion conclude that woody should be bypassed as it would be offensive to

Re: How about using bzip2 as the standard *.deb compression format?

1998-10-04 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sat, Oct 03, 1998 at 08:37:12AM -0500, dsb3 wrote: I think we already went through this discussion a short while back. Unless I'm missing something new, it was pretty much decided that the memory overhead of bzip2 was too great for low-mem or slow PCs to handle. It'd STILL be nice to

Re: what's after slink

1998-10-04 Thread David Welton
On Sat, Oct 03, 1998 at 09:53:55PM -0500, Nathan E Norman wrote: On Sat, 3 Oct 1998, David Welton wrote: : Debian 2.2, on the FTP site, is called sid. If you guys want to : discuss this, at least make it clear that you are talking about 2.3 or : 3 or whaterver. : : hamm - slink - sid

Re: what's after slink

1998-10-04 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sat, 3 Oct 1998, David Welton wrote: As far as something to replace them.. hrmm. Geography has been popular lately.. cities, rivers.. Something international would be good. Lakes? Seas? National parks? Drinks?:- how about endangered species. e.g. tigers, cheetahs, whales,

Re: gnome .debs

1998-10-04 Thread Brian Almeida
On Sat, Oct 03, 1998 at 06:56:59PM -0400, Justin Maurer wrote: (for the purposes of this email, consider my sig my resume). i am an admin at a local high school. our shell server is a p233 with 128m ram and 12gb disk. it will soon be upgraded to 256mb, and sooner or later,

Re: what's after slink

1998-10-04 Thread David Welton
On Sun, Oct 04, 1998 at 01:59:15PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: On Sat, 3 Oct 1998, David Welton wrote: As far as something to replace them.. hrmm. Geography has been popular lately.. cities, rivers.. Something international would be good. Lakes? Seas? National parks? Drinks?:-

GPL'd libforms dependent package

1998-10-04 Thread John Lapeyre
This a kind of interesting looking package. It is GPL'd but depends on a no-source-available library. I just reread the relevant portions of the GPL, but I'm no Talmudic scholar. Can the GPL be properly applied to this ? http://ifb.bv.tu-berlin.de/JOCHEN/XSTAB/xstab.html

Re: Switch to perl-5.005_02 ?

1998-10-04 Thread Joey Hess
Manoj Srivastava wrote: That *is* a problem. I would like to have both on my machine: the normal perl for production, and the threaded one to prototype with. According to the mail I got from the maintainer, that is what he plans to do. /usr/bin/perl and /usr/bin/perl-thread, no

Installation Weirdness (dpkg-divert)

1998-10-04 Thread Greg Schafer
Hi, I'm experiencing a weird problem while installing slink. I'm just not sure what's at fault and therefore don't know which package to file a bug report against. I get the following: Preparing to replace modutils 2.1.85-11 (using .../base/modutils_2.1.121-4.deb) ... Adding

Re: what's after slink

1998-10-04 Thread Adrian Bridgett
On Sat, Oct 03, 1998 at 06:32:58PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: [snip] 2.2 potatoe ^ LANG=US-vice-president perhaps? Adrian email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.poboxes.com/adrian.bridgett Windows NT - Unix in beta-testing. PGP key available on public key servers Debian Linux

Craig Small here?

1998-10-04 Thread Christian Schwarz
[Please CC: any replies to me, since I'm not subscribed to your list] Craig Small [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent me mail about the Debian CD web pages on www.debian.org. Unfortunately, this address bounces (host scooter not found) and also his @debian.org address bounces (same reason). Does someone

user labels, about the future of APT

1998-10-04 Thread A Mennucc1
hi I am a Debian fanatic (but not yet a mantainer... I have no time) I just read the document about the future featueres of APT I have always thought that I would love to have one feature that I now describe as you propose , APT should manage groups of packets in a more flexible way than the

Re: Switch to perl-5.005_02 ?

1998-10-04 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Sat, Oct 03, 1998 at 09:14:00PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava écrivait: That *is* a problem. I would like to have both on my machine: the normal perl for production, and the threaded one to prototype with. OK, I was wrong. I said it in the eventuality where perl and perl-thread would

Re: Switch to perl-5.005_02 ?

1998-10-04 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Sat, Oct 03, 1998 at 06:32:22PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava écrivait: I agree. I do not. Perl 5.005 and the new perl-thread seems to interest a lot of people. But if we don't switch to perl5.005 right now, they would presumably download the forthcoming perl5.005 package from the next (after

Re: How about using bzip2 as the standard *.deb compression format?

1998-10-04 Thread James Troup
Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Old/slow/lomem machines can't properly compile X or Mozilla anyway. Bzzt. I've compiled xfree86 for Debian/m68k on a 386/25 equivalent with only 14Mb (don't ask) of memory several times. Took 5 days, like, but it compiled ``properly''. -- James

Re: GTK Dselect - ALPHA 1

1998-10-04 Thread Tom Lees
On Sun, Oct 04, 1998 at 12:14:40AM -0400, Brian Almeida wrote: On Sat, Oct 03, 1998 at 11:41:14PM +0100, Tom Lees wrote: Just a small tar.gz. Not many features are implemented at the moment - notably, it doesnt update the status file, and it doesnt lock the status area, but I'm releasing it

Re: Compile new apache module / Anyone package it?

1998-10-04 Thread Paul Stevens
1) I would like to get some hints how to compile this and probably other modules for apache using Debian package apache-dev and not using the source code. I use: Makefile: --- default: mod_auth_mysql.c mod_log_mysql.c gcc -shared

Re: How about using bzip2 as the standard *.deb compression format?

1998-10-04 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sun, Oct 04, 1998 at 12:15:40PM +0100, James Troup wrote: Old/slow/lomem machines can't properly compile X or Mozilla anyway. Bzzt. I've compiled xfree86 for Debian/m68k on a 386/25 equivalent with only 14Mb (don't ask) of memory several times. Took 5 days, like, but it compiled

Re: XEmacs, TeX, and Re: Lengthy Debian install procedures

1998-10-04 Thread Shaya Potter
On Wed, Sep 30, 1998 at 09:27:29PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree. It's too bad that he wasted time that he could have spent finishing _The Art of Computer Programming_ on trivia like typesetting. It's just that he realized that typesetting isn't trivia at all, but very interesting.

Re: what's after slink

1998-10-04 Thread Will Lowe
As far as something to replace them.. hrmm. Geography has been popular lately.. cities, rivers.. Something international would be good. Lakes? Seas? National parks? Drinks?:- Famous Free Software personalities? Debian Stallman, Debian Raymond (ok, so I might get in trouble for that

PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-04 Thread Kikutani Makoto
On Sun, Oct 04, 1998 at 12:47:45AM +0100, James Troup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you accept a passport as the above formal documents ? Yes. [Though if there is any opportunity to meet another developer in Good. I asked this because Japanese developers who are planning to become

Does anyone use virtual-dev? (was Re: updated vs. bdflush -- which is better?)

1998-10-04 Thread Charles Briscoe-Smith
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Avery Pennarun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pavel Machek recently extended the bdflush package to efficiently handle hard disk spindown for power saving mode. I played with the changes, and it seems to work really well. Some time ago, I made a package called

What's a suitable terminal type for xvt?

1998-10-04 Thread Charles Briscoe-Smith
Some time ago, xterm's terminal emulation changed, and the xterm terminfo entry changed with it. Since xvt implements the emulation associated with the old version of xterm, I changed its terminal type to xterm-old. Of course, this means that, when logging in to other kinds of machines, the

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-04 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sun, Oct 04, 1998 at 09:49:44AM -0400, Kikutani Makoto wrote: Do you accept a passport as the above formal documents ? Yes. [Though if there is any opportunity to meet another developer in Good. I asked this because Japanese developers who are planning to become maintainers feel

Re: Craig Small here?

1998-10-04 Thread Martin Schulze
Christian Schwarz wrote: [Please CC: any replies to me, since I'm not subscribed to your list] Craig Small [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent me mail about the Debian CD web pages on www.debian.org. Unfortunately, this address bounces (host scooter not found) and also his @debian.org address bounces

Re: GTK Dselect - ALPHA 1

1998-10-04 Thread Brian Almeida
On Sun, Oct 04, 1998 at 12:44:36PM +0100, Tom Lees wrote: 1.1. I am using the libgtk1.1 1.1.2-2 and libgtk1.1-dev 1.1.12-2 packages With the default setup: -- Script started on Sun Oct 4 11:30:52 1998 make[1]: Entering directory `/home/balmeida/gdselect/gtk' gcc -g -Wall -Werror

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-04 Thread Kikutani Makoto
On Sun, Oct 04, 1998 at 07:57:40AM -0700, Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a Japanese living in the United States, but not a permanent resident. I've heared that the usage of PGP in the States by a person like me is controversial. I posted this qestion to some related

Re: what's after slink

1998-10-04 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Martin Schulze wrote: The namespase lasts for five more releases. Or do I misunderstand something? On a related note, do we want to continue using names from pixar movies now that Bruce is gone? Wichert. --

pine in other distributions

1998-10-04 Thread Kikutani Makoto
I'm sorry, Pine again (and again and...). Does anybody know if other distributions (RedHat, slack...) have Pine package ? If they have it, I assume their license policy is not hard as Debian. I know one Japanese company is selling Linux CDs which contain a Japanese version of Pine. In fact, the

Re: pine in other distributions

1998-10-04 Thread Martin Schulze
Kikutani Makoto wrote: I'm sorry, Pine again (and again and...). Does anybody know if other distributions (RedHat, slack...) have Pine package ? They have. If they have it, I assume their license policy is not hard as Debian. Indeed. Debian is know for its maximum pickyness wrt

Re: what's after slink

1998-10-04 Thread Justin Maurer
On a related note, do we want to continue using names from pixar movies now that Bruce is gone? i see no reason not to. they are nice names, the only problem is that we may be running out of good ones (i admit, rc was a stretch) #

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-04 Thread john
Joseph Carter writes: If you brought it with you (and can PROVE it) there is probably no problem in theory. It doesn't matter where he got it. It is entirely legal for anyone to use or distribute strong crypto in the US. The only restriction is on export. He is perfectly safe as long as he

Re: How about using bzip2 as the standard *.deb compression format?

1998-10-04 Thread James Troup
Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes in gratuitous QP: On Sun, Oct 04, 1998 at 12:15:40PM +0100, James Troup wrote: Old/slow/lomem machines can't properly compile X or Mozilla anyway. Bzzt. I've compiled xfree86 for Debian/m68k on a 386/25 equivalent with only 14Mb (don't ask) of

Intent to package: Debian-Bookmarks

1998-10-04 Thread Christian Hammers
Hi ! I hereby formally intent to package the debian-bookmarks package ! :-) It is a package that I like to create that - like the name says - just contains bookmarks. It is intendet for both, Linux newbies and advanced users and will hopefully contains lots of usefull links about Linux,

Re: what's after slink

1998-10-04 Thread Martin Schulze
Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Martin Schulze wrote: The namespase lasts for five more releases. Or do I misunderstand something? On a related note, do we want to continue using names from pixar movies now that Bruce is gone? I don't see a reason for not continuing this scheme.

Intent to package octave-sp

1998-10-04 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
I intent to release an 'octave-sp' package. This will contain the 'semidef-oct' port by A.S.Hodel of the 'semidef' package by Lieven Vandenberghe [EMAIL PROTECTED] and Stephen Boyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]. It provides functions for semidefinite programming which can be used to solve nonlinear convex

Re: pine in other distributions

1998-10-04 Thread Kikutani Makoto
On Sun, Oct 04, 1998 at 05:52:47PM +0200, Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody know if other distributions (RedHat, slack...) have Pine package ? They have. If they have it, I assume their license policy is not hard as Debian. Indeed. Debian is know for its maximum

Re: How about using bzip2 as the standard *.deb compression format?

1998-10-04 Thread Christopher Barry
If your mighty 386/25 with 4MB can make World the entire X distribution and custom kernels then surely it won't sweat a little bit of bzip2 decompressing... and since you spend a lot less time downloading a bzip2ed *.deb, the extra time bzip2 would take by swapping and thrashing the disk should

intent to package tochnog

1998-10-04 Thread John Lapeyre
License: GPL tochnog is a finite element analysis program. http://info.uibk.ac.at/c/c8/c813/tn_release/tnhome.html The author calls the executable 'tn' . I should probably change this to 'tochnog' or 'tng' or something. John John Lapeyre [EMAIL

Re: pine in other distributions

1998-10-04 Thread Martin Schulze
Kikutani Makoto wrote: On Sun, Oct 04, 1998 at 05:52:47PM +0200, Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody know if other distributions (RedHat, slack...) have Pine package ? They have. If they have it, I assume their license policy is not hard as Debian.

Right way to sync

1998-10-04 Thread Marc Singer
What is the *right* way to sync to slink (or any other distribution)? I looked into dftp and found that it seems more like a method for installing new packages than keeping in sync with the most recent versions. The main thing I'm trying to avoid the duplicate package install problem. For

Intent to package: audiofile

1998-10-04 Thread Brian Almeida
I have recently taken over maintainership of Esound from Scott Ellis. While I was going thru the package, I ntoiced that esdplay (an intelligent audio player for esd) requires audiofile to work. Audiofile is a sepearte module in GNOME CVS, but may be found at

Re: PGP in the US (Re: formal documents)

1998-10-04 Thread john
Kikutani Makoto writes: Yes, my PGP is an international version which was built in Japan, and I brought it in my laptop. The international version infringes the RSA patent and so the owner of the patent (PKP?) could theoretically sue you for using it in the US. All they could get is an

texconfig runs (was Re: Lengthy Debian install procedures)

1998-10-04 Thread Adam P. Harris
I suspect strongly that many packages are doing full 'texconfig init' runs rather than running texconfig only for their relevant packages. An example in this case is jadetex. It runs (it's own copy of) 'texconfig init' rather than just generating .fmt's for what it is installing (jadetex and