On 8 May 2014 19:16, Frank Bauer frank.c.ba...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Jessie currently contains linux 3.13, which includes the successor of
iptables - nftables.
Unfortunately, the userspace tools (nftables) are still missing even in
sid/experimental.
As Vincent Bernat said, is in NEW. Has
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On Thu, 2014-05-08 at 18:42 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Svante Signell svante.sign...@gmail.com writes:
I'm trying to install as little as possible of systemd stuff, and guess
what happens: When booting one of the laptops boot starts with:
systyemd-fsck disks
Is systemd taking over
Hi,
On 05/09/2014 12:35, Svante Signell wrote:
Well, I've not been asked if I wanted to switch to systemd based boot
when upgrading. I think this is a bug in init system choice and should
be reported. How to go back to sysvinit?
Please ask on one of the support mailing lists (CC'ed).
On 2014-05-09, Svante Signell svante.sign...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, I've not been asked if I wanted to switch to systemd based boot
when upgrading. I think this is a bug in init system choice and should
be reported. How to go back to sysvinit?
I'd expect it to be a bug if I don't get migrated
]] Svante Signell
On Thu, 2014-05-08 at 18:42 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Svante Signell svante.sign...@gmail.com writes:
I'm trying to install as little as possible of systemd stuff, and guess
what happens: When booting one of the laptops boot starts with:
systyemd-fsck disks
Hello,
On 9 May 2014 14:32, Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no wrote:
Well, I've not been asked if I wanted to switch to systemd based boot
when upgrading. I think this is a bug in init system choice and should
be reported.
The default has changed and you chose to accept the defaults when you
]] Andrew Shadura
Hello,
On 9 May 2014 14:32, Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no wrote:
Well, I've not been asked if I wanted to switch to systemd based boot
when upgrading. I think this is a bug in init system choice and should
be reported.
The default has changed and you chose to
On Fri, 9 May 2014, Andrew Shadura wrote:
On 9 May 2014 14:32, Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no wrote:
Well, I've not been asked if I wanted to switch to systemd based boot
when upgrading. I think this is a bug in init system choice and should
be reported.
ACK.
I noticed this because I have
Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
Changes to the default init system should not affect existing setups.
Were that true, it would be different to how we handle changes in other
defaults.
A default is a default because it is only applies when the
sysadmin defaults to it, when the sysadmin defaults making
a
Hello,
On 9 May 2014 15:48, Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no wrote:
Changes to the default init system should not affect existing setups.
Were that true, it would be different to how we handle changes in other
defaults.
No, it wouldn't. If exim4 is a default MTA, and then it changes to
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On 05/09/2014 09:48 AM, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
]] Andrew Shadura
Hello,
On 9 May 2014 14:32, Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no wrote:
Well, I've not been asked if I wanted to switch to systemd
based boot when upgrading. I think this is a bug
]] Thorsten Glaser
Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
Changes to the default init system should not affect existing setups.
Were that true, it would be different to how we handle changes in other
defaults.
A default is a default because it is only applies when the
sysadmin defaults to it, when
Le jeudi, 8 mai 2014, 13.05:52 Ian Jackson a écrit :
Unfortunately, Luis's mail domain is hosted at Hotmail which hates
chiark:
Pot calling the kettle black: chiark hates a lot of servers out there
when it's Irritated…
OdyX
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Thorsten Glaser t...@debian.org wrote:
On Fri, 9 May 2014, Andrew Shadura wrote:
Changes to the default init system should not affect existing
setups.
Strong ACK.
That only happens when the default is at the Debian Installer / tasksel
level.
e.g. a
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On Fri, 9 May 2014 16:06:46 +0200 Thorsten Glaser t...@debian.org
wrote:
On Fri, 9 May 2014, Andrew Shadura wrote:
Changes to the default init system should not affect existing
setups.
Strong
The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm writes:
There is a considerable difference, however, between automatically
installing the new version of a program (even if in a different package
for whatever reason) and automatically installing a completely different
program from the original, simply
On 9 May 2014 18:22, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote:
I think we need some sort of critical debconf prompt here for the jessie
release, [...]
I fully agree with this.
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Am 09.05.2014 18:22, schrieb Russ Allbery:
I think we need some sort of critical debconf prompt here for the jessie
release, similar to how we handled the change of /bin/sh to dash and how
we handled the switch to startpar. Probably in systemd-sysv, which is the
package that forces the
On 09/05/14 17:22, Russ Allbery wrote:
I think we need some sort of critical debconf prompt here for the jessie
release, similar to how we handled the change of /bin/sh to dash and how
we handled the switch to startpar. Probably in systemd-sysv, which is the
package that forces the
Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org (2014-05-09):
Am 09.05.2014 18:22, schrieb Russ Allbery:
I think we need some sort of critical debconf prompt here for the jessie
release, similar to how we handled the change of /bin/sh to dash and how
we handled the switch to startpar. Probably in
On Fri, 2014-05-09 at 19:04 +0200, Arturo Borrero Gonzalez wrote:
On 9 May 2014 18:22, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote:
I think we need some sort of critical debconf prompt here for the jessie
release, [...]
I fully agree with this.
bug #747535
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On 9 May 2014 19:42, Svante Signell svante.sign...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, 2014-05-09 at 19:04 +0200, Arturo Borrero Gonzalez wrote:
On 9 May 2014 18:22, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote:
I think we need some sort of critical debconf prompt here for the jessie
release, [...]
I fully
On Fri, May 09, 2014 at 02:32:07PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
]] Svante Signell
On Thu, 2014-05-08 at 18:42 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Svante Signell svante.sign...@gmail.com writes:
I'm trying to install as little as possible of systemd stuff, and guess
what happens: When
previously on this list Simon McVittie contributed:
That would let cautious systemd users keep the
sysvinit binaries around, and boot with init=/usr/lib/sysvinit/init if
something went horribly wrong with systemd.
Not that it would affect me but that would be wise, an upstream bug
caused arch
Am 09.05.2014 19:56, schrieb Steve Langasek:
I don't think systemd integration is in a state today that this is ready to
become the default.
What are you missing?
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On Fri, May 09, 2014 at 04:06:46PM +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
In my specific case, some *kit (policykit?) was “held back” by
apt-get dist-upgrade, because it introduced a Depends on…
ii libpam-systemd:amd64 204-10
… which I had prevented using systemd-must-die¹. But
Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org writes:
Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org (2014-05-09):
I'm not opposed to adding such a debconf prompt, but if we add that
debconf prompt to systemd-sysv, we will get this even on new
installations. I don't think we want that.
Or do you see a way how we can add
Simon McVittie s...@debian.org writes:
It might actually be nicer to move the real sysvinit binaries to a
non-conflicting location in sysvinit (or a new non-Essential
sysvinit-bin or something, if it's desirable to keep the Essential
sysvinit package as a metapackage depending on any
Steve Langasek wrote...
I don't think systemd integration is in a state today that this is ready to
become the default.
As long as packages like network-manager depends on systemd and that
dependency causes the init system to be changed accordingly, you can
expect the vast majority of desktops
On Fri, May 09, 2014 at 10:56:43AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
The default hasn't changed; sysvinit still lists sysvinit-core as the first
alternative for its pre-dependency on /sbin/init. What is forcing
systemd-sysv onto users systems in advance of this change?
Also, if the order of
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Simon McVittie s...@debian.org writes:
It might actually be nicer to move the real sysvinit binaries to a
non-conflicting location in sysvinit (or a new non-Essential
sysvinit-bin or something, if it's desirable to keep the Essential
sysvinit package as a metapackage
On Fri, May 09, 2014 at 10:37:03PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
It and upstart (and any other providers of /sbin/init) should also grow
critical debconf warnings if you install them and you were previously using
systemd as your init so it's symmetric.
Nobody is suggesting that systemd should
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes:
Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org writes:
Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org (2014-05-09):
I'm not opposed to adding such a debconf prompt, but if we add that
debconf prompt to systemd-sysv, we will get this even on new
installations. I don't think we want
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Am 09.05.2014 23:47, schrieb Philip Hands:
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org writes:
Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org writes:
Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org (2014-05-09):
I'm not opposed to adding such a debconf prompt, but if we add that
debconf prompt to systemd-sysv, we will get this even on
Bas Wijnen wij...@debian.org writes:
On Fri, May 09, 2014 at 10:37:03PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
It and upstart (and any other providers of /sbin/init) should also grow
critical debconf warnings if you install them and you were previously
using systemd as your init so it's symmetric.
Russ Allbery wrote:
The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm writes:
There is a considerable difference, however, between automatically
installing the new version of a program (even if in a different package
for whatever reason) and automatically installing a completely different
program from
Josh Triplett j...@joshtriplett.org writes:
Russ Allbery wrote:
I think we need some sort of critical debconf prompt here for the
jessie release, similar to how we handled the change of /bin/sh to dash
and how we handled the switch to startpar. Probably in systemd-sysv,
which is the package
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