Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Tim Potter t...@hp.com
* Package name: argparse4j
Version : 0.4.4
Upstream Author : Tatsuhiro Tsujikawa tatsuhir...@gmail.com
* URL : http://argparse4j.sourceforge.net
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Programming Lang: Java
On Nov 17, Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org wrote:
This is what many still (retorically) wonder about: we the systemd
maintainers did not reject that change,
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=15;bug=746578
Please try to be less selective in your quoting: the issue was
m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) writes:
On Nov 17, Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org wrote:
This is what many still (retorically) wonder about: we the systemd
maintainers did not reject that change,
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=15;bug=746578
Please try to be less
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014, Ron wrote:
Anything that doesn't store the full debian version (be it a git tag or a
filename) will have a colision risk. Consider a package that has versions
1:2.3.5-1 and 5:2.3.5-1.
Right, that was one of the first cases I mentioned. When you upload
5:2.3.5-1,
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014, Anthony Towns wrote:
Having a single tool that does the basic stuff admins and maintainers need
independent of init system seems like the right approach to me. *-rc.d
is a terrible name for such a tool, though :(
Err, yes. There were complains about the -rc.d prefix way
Hi,
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh:
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014, Anthony Towns wrote:
Having a single tool that does the basic stuff admins and maintainers need
independent of init system seems like the right approach to me. *-rc.d
is a terrible name for such a tool, though :(
Err, yes. There
Jordan Metzmeier jmetzmeie...@gmail.com writes:
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This is already packaged as
https://packages.debian.org/sid/ruby-puppetlabs-spec-helper
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On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 11:02:53AM +0100, Bálint Réczey wrote:
Dear Josselin,
I have just noticed your blog post on planet.debian.org:
https://np237.livejournal.com/34598.html
I would like to ask you to resist the temptation of publishing similar posts.
It makes fun of part of our
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 10:10:58AM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014, Anthony Towns wrote:
Having a single tool that does the basic stuff admins and maintainers need
independent of init system seems like the right approach to me. *-rc.d
is a terrible name for
Package: general
Severity: important
Dear Debian Maintainers,
I tried the alternative init systems (namely upstart and systemd) and
while I think there is some potential in these systems I don't think
they are ready for Jessie.
As basic system component the init system needs to be very
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 11:05:13AM +0100, Bj??rn Mork wrote:
m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) writes:
On Nov 17, Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org wrote:
This is what many still (retorically) wonder about: we the systemd
maintainers did not reject that change,
Your message dated Mon, 17 Nov 2014 15:55:49 +0100
with message-id 201411171555.56561.hol...@layer-acht.org
and subject line Re: Bug#769907: general: non-sysvinit init systems are made of
fail
has caused the Debian Bug report #769907,
regarding general: non-sysvinit init systems are made of fail
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Sebastien Delafond s...@debian.org
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close 769851
thanks
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen s...@debian.org wrote:
Jordan Metzmeier jmetzmeie...@gmail.com writes:
* Package name: puppetlabs-spec-helper
This is already packaged as
https://packages.debian.org/sid/ruby-puppetlabs-spec-helper
Thanks. I
Bjørn Mork bj...@mork.no writes:
I see. So any systemd bug with a 'wontfix' tag is still considered open
for discussion?
I can't speak to the maintenance practices of systemd maintainers, but if
the bug isn't open to discussion, I close it. I think that's fairly
common across Debian. If
Simon McVittie writes (Re: RFC: DEP-14: Recommended layout for Git packaging
repositories):
I agree that the expected contents of the branches are far more
important than their names. Unfortunately, while acting as the Debian
expert for Debian derivatives at $day_job, I keep finding that the
Simon McVittie writes (Re: RFC: DEP-14: Recommended layout for Git packaging
repositories):
gbp-pq and git-dpm are the other way round: the tree can be built with
dpkg-buildpackage, but the cost is that you have to commit in a way that
isn't the normal git thing (either using a specific tool,
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014, Anthony Towns wrote:
If deb-systemd-* were to get merged in, it might be worth doing a name
change at the same time, I guess. Changing either before jessie doesn't
seem remotely plausible.
I wonder if it would make sense to just merge it all into the service
command;
On Fri, 14 Nov 2014, Ralf Jung wrote:
I was specifically talking about interfaces (as in, dbus signatures),
Meh… I don’t even have dbus installed at home. (It is, on the work
system, due to… virt-manager and iceweasel(?).)
So, no need for anything systemd-ish.
Well, even better for you :)
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:38:04PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014, Anthony Towns wrote:
If deb-systemd-* were to get merged in, it might be worth doing a name
change at the same time, I guess. Changing either before jessie doesn't
seem remotely plausible.
On 11/17/2014 10:36 PM, Anthony Towns wrote:
I wonder if it would make sense to just merge it all into the service
command; ie:
# service --use-policy ssh start
# service --use-policy ssh restart
# service ssh enable
# service acpid.socket mask-for-upgrade
in place of:
Anthony Towns writes (Re: Being part of a community and behaving):
Steve, as long as bugs like [1] are not fixed in systemd-shim, I'm not
going to make it the first alternative. Installing a half-broken logind
whould be a disservice to our users.
On 11/17/2014 10:41 PM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
To be a reasonable sysvinit replacement
systemd and upstart must output messages to consoles(s) to which
sysvinit did output messages, even on systems with multiple consoles
(eg. serial, vga, kms).
Not really... Or at least, not until last summer
Anthony Towns a...@erisian.com.au writes:
BTW, it occured to me that it seems like a wart that update-rc.d doesn't
respect policy-rc.d -- as it stands, policy-rc.d can prevent a service
from (re)starting during install/upgrade, but it'll still start on the
next boot. Is that just something
Shachar Shemesh shac...@shemesh.biz writes:
Please try to refrain from jokes other will find offending.
That joke is in very poor taste, sir.
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On 11/17/2014 at 12:12 PM, Ian Jackson wrote:
Anthony Towns writes (Re: Being part of a community and behaving):
The bug referenced as [1] above was #756076 which was set as
grave on 18th September, with a fix developed upstream on the 5th
Nov, which was then uploaded to Debian on the same
Am 2014-11-17 18:07, schrieb Anthony Towns:
BTW, it occured to me that it seems like a wart that update-rc.d
doesn't
respect policy-rc.d -- as it stands, policy-rc.d can prevent a
service
from (re)starting during install/upgrade, but it'll still start on
the
next boot. Is that just something
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014, Anthony Towns wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:38:04PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014, Anthony Towns wrote:
If deb-systemd-* were to get merged in, it might be worth doing a name
change at the same time, I guess. Changing either before
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 09:22:39AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
Anthony Towns a...@erisian.com.au writes:
BTW, it occured to me that it seems like a wart that update-rc.d doesn't
respect policy-rc.d -- as it stands, policy-rc.d can prevent a service
from (re)starting during install/upgrade,
Le samedi 15 novembre 2014 à 16:16 -0800, Don Armstrong a écrit :
The technical committe was asked in #746578 to override the ordering
of the alternative dependencies on systemd-sysv and systemd-shim to
prefer the installation of systemd-shim in cases where sysvinit-core
was already installed.
Control: reassign -1 wnpp
Control: retitle -1 RFP: variety -- wallpaper changer
On Lu, 17 nov 14, 16:02:30, Nenad Latinović wrote:
Package: variety
Version: variety
Severity: wishlist
Dear Maintainer,
If it's possible, I'd like to suggest packaging this wallpaper changer for
Debian.
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014, Anthony Towns wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 09:22:39AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
Anthony Towns a...@erisian.com.au writes:
BTW, it occured to me that it seems like a wart that update-rc.d doesn't
respect policy-rc.d -- as it stands, policy-rc.d can prevent a service
On 16/11/14 17:16, Scott Kitterman wrote:
The cure for inappropriate speech is more speech. Calling people on things
that are inappropriate or that cause problems in the project is exactly the
right thing to do.
I was trying to point out the futility of trying to ask people to show
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le samedi 15 novembre 2014 à 16:16 -0800, Don Armstrong a écrit :
The technical committe was asked in #746578 to override the ordering
of the alternative dependencies on systemd-sysv and systemd-shim to
prefer the installation of systemd-shim in
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org writes:
I think I heard of someone using them *once*. It is very rare, AFAIK.
However, if there is one thing I learned the hard way, is that people
who use the advanced features don't make themselves or that fact known
unless you ask. They often
On 17 November 2014 18:15, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote:
On 11/17/2014 10:41 PM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
To be a reasonable sysvinit replacement
systemd and upstart must output messages to consoles(s) to which
sysvinit did output messages, even on systems with multiple consoles
(eg.
First, Don, I’d like to thank you for keeping the discussion civil. I
have made a serious accusation, and I don’t want it to be an excuse for
a mudfight.
Le lundi 17 novembre 2014 à 11:15 -0800, Don Armstrong a écrit :
§6.3.6 does not prevent the CTTE from being presented an issue early. It
Le lundi 17 novembre 2014 à 21:20 +0100, Josselin Mouette a écrit :
It’s not because the resolution is wrong, either. Of course, my opinion
is that it is wrong, and that it is going to rain fire on us when
upgraded systems do not behave like freshly installed ones.
Ansgar pointed to me on IRC
Hi,
Le lundi 17 novembre 2014 à 11:15 -0800, Don Armstrong a écrit :
§6.3.6 does not prevent the CTTE from being presented an issue early. It
stops the CTTE from deciding an issue before a consensus approach has
been attempted. In this particular case, I felt that a consensus
approach had
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 09:20:56PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
In retrospect, the CTTE may not be working consensus hard enough, and
for that, I'm sorry. Working to achieve consensus is very difficult,
time consuming, and fraught. It takes a huge time commitment, and even
after spending
On Monday, 17 de November de 2014 20:20:56 Josselin Mouette escribió:
First, Don, I’d like to thank you for keeping the discussion civil. I
have made a serious accusation, and I don’t want it to be an excuse for
a mudfight.
The point is not that you have made a serious accusation. It is your
Hi Josselin,
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 07:38:34PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le samedi 15 novembre 2014 à 16:16 -0800, Don Armstrong a écrit :
The technical committe was asked in #746578 to override the ordering
of the alternative dependencies on systemd-sysv and systemd-shim to
prefer
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014, Russ Allbery wrote:
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org writes:
I think I heard of someone using them *once*. It is very rare, AFAIK.
However, if there is one thing I learned the hard way, is that people
who use the advanced features don't make themselves or
It appears that the appropriate resolution of #769106 [1] is to add a new
pre-depends on python-minimal in python.
This issue at hand is that at the time python2.7-minimal is configured, python
is unpacked, but python-minimal is not. Since python-2.7-minimal doesn't have
a direct depends on
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 10:21:13AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Nov 17, Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org wrote:
This is what many still (retorically) wonder about: we the systemd
maintainers did not reject that change,
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=15;bug=746578
On 17/11/14 16:24, Ian Jackson wrote:
I don't think this problem, of a mass of different branch structures,
is going to go away any time soon. Simply because people don't seem
able to agree.
My answer is to create a parallel universe in which the branch
structure is known.
As far as I can
Hi,
First of all, sorry in advance if the beginning of this post looks more
like a bug report discussion than a debian-devel post.
try this instead:
$ journalctl _SYSTEMD_UNIT=systemd-journald.service
which will (most likely) also show messages like Suppressed 1927 messages
from
This decision has been made in gross violation of constitution §6.3.6,
being summoned to override a maintainer’s choice while the solution
was still under discussion.
I urge the systemd maintainers not to take it into account.
I fully agree. This whole vote has been a farce and the result
On 11/18/2014 03:50 AM, Michal Suchanek wrote:
With
current sysvinit the serial console is also used as main but
sysvinit-core does not produce any messages on tty0 whatsoever and so
does not mislead the user into thinking that useful boot progress
feedback can be obtained on that terminal.
On Tue, 2014-11-18 at 00:43 +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
This decision has been made in gross violation of constitution §6.3.6,
being summoned to override a maintainer’s choice while the solution
was still under discussion.
I urge the systemd maintainers not to take it into
Hi Christoph,
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 01:24:13AM +0100, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
Just had to wonder... what happens to DDs who intentionally and clearly
break the constitution or who publicly state to no longer feel bound by
it?
This mailing list is a technical list and your
On Tue, 2014-11-18 at 01:26 +0100, Michael Banck wrote:
This mailing list is a technical list and your message/question is
off-topic. Kindly reask it on another list, or another forum
altogether.
I wouldn't say that the two posts I was particularly replying to were in
any way more technical.
Simon McVittie writes (Re: RFC: DEP-14: Recommended layout for Git packaging
repositories):
As far as I can see from what you've said elsewhere, for source format
3.0 (quilt), you're aiming for the patches applied and also serialized
in debian/patches/ state (matching git-dpm I think?),
Package: wnpp
Owner: Dirk Eddelbuettel e...@debian.org
Severity: wishlist
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Description :
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
Anthony Towns wrote:
Russ Allbery wrote:
Anthony Towns writes:
BTW, it occured to me that it seems like a wart that update-rc.d doesn't
respect policy-rc.d -- as it stands, policy-rc.d can prevent a service
from (re)starting during
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:48:29PM +, Anthony Towns wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 11:05:13AM +0100, Bj??rn Mork wrote:
m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) writes:
On Nov 17, Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org wrote:
This is what many still (retorically) wonder about: we the systemd
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 01:24:13AM +0100, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
This decision has been made in gross violation of constitution §6.3.6,
being summoned to override a maintainer’s choice while the solution
was still under discussion.
I urge the systemd maintainers not to take
Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com writes:
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
Anthony Towns wrote:
Followup question: does anyone actually use the detailed features of
policy-rc.d or is always used in practice to turn all init scripts off?
I think I heard of someone using them *once*. It is very
Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz writes:
It appears to be a misnomer then. I read 'wontfix' as I'm not going to
to fix it as I don't see it as a bug.
Or am I confusing an open wontfix with a closed wontfix?
Yeah, this is confusing as heck, and to make it worse, every Debian
Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz writes:
[the ‘wontfix’ tag] appears to be a misnomer then. I read 'wontfix' as
I'm not going to to fix it as I don't see it as a bug.
The official definition:
wontfix
This bug won't be fixed. Possibly because this is a choice between
two
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Hello all,
Josselin Mouette [2014-11-17 19:38 +0100]:
This decision has been made in gross violation of constitution §6.3.6,
being summoned to override a maintainer’s choice while the solution was
still under discussion.
I urge the systemd maintainers not to take it into account.
TBH, I
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 18:24:00 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote:
It appears that the appropriate resolution of #769106 [1] is to add a new
pre-depends on python-minimal in python.
This issue at hand is that at the time python2.7-minimal is configured,
python
is unpacked, but
On Tue, 2014-11-18 at 06:29 +0100, Martin Pitt wrote:
Hello all,
Josselin Mouette [2014-11-17 19:38 +0100]:
This decision has been made in gross violation of constitution §6.3.6,
being summoned to override a maintainer’s choice while the solution was
still under discussion.
I urge
On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 08:28:29 AM Julien Cristau wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 18:24:00 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote:
It appears that the appropriate resolution of #769106 [1] is to add a new
pre-depends on python-minimal in python.
This issue at hand is that at the time
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