Re: Bug#684128: down the memory hole

2013-04-05 Thread Axel Beckert
Hi Ian. ian_br...@fastmail.net wrote: It seems that Historical Revisionism, of the bad kind, is now in operation at Debian, in that critical commentary about unapplied patches is made to disappear down the memory hole, without leaving so much as a trace on the relevant bug report. If it

Re: Bug#684128: down the memory hole

2013-04-04 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Hi Ian, (dropping the bug in CC, as it has nothing to do with it). Le jeudi, 4 avril 2013 12.27:01, ian_br...@fastmail.net a écrit : It seems that Historical Revisionism, of the bad kind, is now in operation at Debian, in that critical commentary about unapplied patches is made to disappear

Re: Bug#684128: down the memory hole

2013-04-04 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, 2013-04-04 at 03:27 -0700, ian_br...@fastmail.net wrote: It seems that Historical Revisionism, of the bad kind, is now in operation at Debian, in that critical commentary about unapplied patches is made to disappear down the memory hole, without leaving so much as a trace on the

Re: Bug#684128: down the memory hole

2013-04-04 Thread ian_bruce
On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 13:09:30 +0200 Didier 'OdyX' Raboud o...@debian.org wrote: If it were thought that the criticism was unfair, or inaccurate, then it could be allowed to remain in place, so that other people might judge its lack of merit for themselves. In the case of bug #684128, post

Re: Bug#684128: down the memory hole

2013-04-04 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
(No need to CC me, I'm subscribed). Le jeudi, 4 avril 2013 15.17:09, ian_br...@fastmail.net a écrit : When read in the context of that particular bug report, I don't see how it could possibly be any more relevant, since it refers directly to the discussion above. I disagree: that mail starts

Re: Bug#684128: down the memory hole

2013-04-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Didier 'OdyX' Raboud, le Thu 04 Apr 2013 15:45:17 +0200, a écrit : (No need to CC me, I'm subscribed). Le jeudi, 4 avril 2013 15.17:09, ian_br...@fastmail.net a écrit : When read in the context of that particular bug report, I don't see how it could possibly be any more relevant, since it

Re: Bug#684128: down the memory hole

2013-04-04 Thread ian_bruce
On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 15:51:38 +0200 Samuel Thibault sthiba...@debian.org wrote: I disagree: that mail starts with a chat between Humpty Dumpty and Alice, which both have nothing to do with the bug at hand. There was nothing in the subject or the first paragraphs of the text that indicated how

Re: Bug#684128: down the memory hole

2013-04-04 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Thu, Apr 04, 2013 at 08:05:16AM -0700, ian_br...@fastmail.net wrote: I disagree: that mail starts with a chat between Humpty Dumpty and Alice, which both have nothing to do with the bug at hand. There was nothing in the subject or the first paragraphs of the text that indicated how that

Re: Bug#684128: down the memory hole

2013-04-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
ian_br...@fastmail.net, le Thu 04 Apr 2013 08:05:16 -0700, a écrit : I do remember this mail, and I remember thinking uh, spamassassin missed killing that spam without reading it all. Only the very end of the mail doesn't look like spam, there's very little probability that a maintainer

Re: Bug#684128: down the memory hole

2013-04-04 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 04/04/2013 12:05 PM, ian_br...@fastmail.net wrote: Do you think there is any way that the relevance of posts to a bug report can be determined, without reference to the context in which they appear, *all the preceeding discussion*? So far as I can see, nobody doubts your intentions. But you

Re: Bug#684128: down the memory hole

2013-04-04 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Which is to say, that Humpty-Dumpty's remarks are EXACTLY on point, especially the part about neither more nor less. The Debian bug tracking system is not a place for novels, novelettes or short stories. Going on for lots of paragraphs and having your short story be much longer than the

Re: Bug#684128: down the memory hole

2013-04-04 Thread Luca Filipozzi
On Thu, Apr 04, 2013 at 08:05:16AM -0700, ian_br...@fastmail.net wrote: hard disk manufacturers, and their Debian apologists And with that, I welcome you to my permanent blacklist. It's one thing to engage people in constructive dialogue. It's another to denigrate them or troll them. Plonk.

Re: Bug#684128: down the memory hole

2013-04-04 Thread Christian PERRIER
I do remember this mail, and I remember thinking uh, spamassassin missed killing that spam without reading it all. Only the very end of the mail doesn't look like spam, there's very little probability that a maintainer would have gone that far. *I* did hit my Esc-L mutt macro on that mail,