Re: Illegal Instruction Using sudo in Bookworm on i686

2023-10-23 Thread Paul Gevers
Hi, On 22-10-2023 23:32, r...@neoquasar.org wrote: If the distinction between "supported" and "not supported" is going to come down to specific assembler-level instructions, it would seem that that wont tell most people anything. Well, if we know which instructions we don't support, it's not

Re: Illegal Instruction Using sudo in Bookworm on i686

2023-10-22 Thread rhys
___ From: RL Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2023 04:45 To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Illegal Instruction Using sudo in Bookworm on i686 Paul Gevers writes: Is there an page that tabulates release name and detailed hardware baseline - if i want to know "what release can

Re: Illegal Instruction Using sudo in Bookworm on i686

2023-10-22 Thread RL
Paul Gevers writes: > On 17-10-2023 22:16, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: >> Yes, assuming the pre-bookworm Debian i386 architecture fully supports it, >> as I don't know what *exactly* was allowed in the "almost i686" >> stretch-bullseye i386. > > According to the release notes (which *should* be

Re: Illegal Instruction Using sudo in Bookworm on i686

2023-10-18 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2023-10-18 at 14:01 +0200, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Tue, 2023-10-17 at 20:03 +0200, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Tue, 2023-10-17 at 10:57 -0500, Justin wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > > > I have recently encountered a case where a VIA C3 Nehemaiah CPU returns > > > "Illegal > > >

Re: Illegal Instruction Using sudo in Bookworm on i686

2023-10-18 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, 2023-10-17 at 20:03 +0200, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Tue, 2023-10-17 at 10:57 -0500, Justin wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > I have recently encountered a case where a VIA C3 Nehemaiah CPU returns > > "Illegal > > Instruction" when trying to run 'sudo' or 'visudo'. > > > > After some

Re: Illegal Instruction Using sudo in Bookworm on i686

2023-10-18 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 10:57:41 -0500, Justin wrote: >Similar issue in Gentoo: >https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=862201 > > >Similar issue in FreeBSD, more recent, but different processor:

Re: Illegal Instruction Using sudo in Bookworm on i686

2023-10-17 Thread Paul Gevers
Hi, On 17-10-2023 22:16, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: Yes, assuming the pre-bookworm Debian i386 architecture fully supports it, as I don't know what *exactly* was allowed in the "almost i686" stretch-bullseye i386. According to the release notes (which *should* be authoritative, but may have

Re: Illegal Instruction Using sudo in Bookworm on i686

2023-10-17 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 02:38:40PM -0500, Justin wrote: > Okay, so because the VIA C3 Nehemaiah chip doesn't properly implement > ENDBR32, it falls outside of the supported hardware, despite being otherwise > an "i686 class chip," correct? > > Or put another way, in classic Cyrix style, it's

Re: Illegal Instruction Using sudo in Bookworm on i686

2023-10-17 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 02:38:40PM -0500, Justin wrote: > Okay, so because the VIA C3 Nehemaiah chip doesn't properly implement > ENDBR32, it falls outside of the supported hardware, despite being otherwise > an "i686 class chip," correct? Seems correct to me. > Or put another way, in classic

Re: Illegal Instruction Using sudo in Bookworm on i686

2023-10-17 Thread Justin
Okay, so because the VIA C3 Nehemaiah chip doesn't properly implement ENDBR32, it falls outside of the supported hardware, despite being otherwise an "i686 class chip," correct? Or put another way, in classic Cyrix style, it's "almost a 686." As for what I was looking for, well, two things:

Re: Illegal Instruction Using sudo in Bookworm on i686

2023-10-17 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, 2023-10-17 at 10:57 -0500, Justin wrote: > Hello all, > > I have recently encountered a case where a VIA C3 Nehemaiah CPU returns > "Illegal > Instruction" when trying to run 'sudo' or 'visudo'. > > After some poking around, I discovered that the FreeBSD folks have > encountered this >

Re: Illegal Instruction Using sudo in Bookworm on i686

2023-10-17 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 10:57:41AM -0500, Justin wrote: > Any other information I can provide that would help track this down? Track what down, sorry? It seems to me you already understand the reason for this error? Or are you asking how to make sure that your CPU indeed doesn't support this?

Illegal Instruction Using sudo in Bookworm on i686

2023-10-17 Thread Justin
Hello all, I have recently encountered a case where a VIA C3 Nehemaiah CPU returns "Illegal Instruction" when trying to run 'sudo' or 'visudo'. After some poking around, I discovered that the FreeBSD folks have encountered this as well, and that it appears to be an issue with GCC where the