Re: Safe to upgrade?

On 06/12/15 05:34 PM, Tim Folger wrote: Hi, I'm running debian testing, with kde version 4.14.2, Given some of the problems I've seen posted on this list, I've been hesitating to upgrade to Plasma 5. What's the state of plasma 5 now in testing? Is it generally safe to upgrade? Thanks for any

Re: Safe to upgrade?

On Monday 07 December 2015 8:28:31 AM Robert van den Berg wrote: > It is working fine for me. Even my final issue with SDDM is gone, probably > due to the updated NVIDIA drivers. > > Big thank you to the team! > > Kind regards, > > Robert > > On Dec 6, 2015 11:34 PM, "Tim Folger"

Re: Safe to upgrade?

Am Freitag, 11. Dezember 2015, 08:15:09 CET schrieb Dominique Dumont: > On Thursday 10 December 2015 23:42:34 Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > Yeah. I think Debian Qt/KDE team can need help with that. Lisandro may be > > working on it, but it overloaded with other work already. > > I understand. I

Re: Safe to upgrade?

On Thursday 10 December 2015 10:16:03 Tim Folger wrote: > Do you happen to use Network Manager? Yes. The plasma thingy for network manager works fine, I use it without issues with wired internet, wireless and vpn. All the best -- https://github.com/dod38fr/ -o-

Re: Safe to upgrade?

On Thursday 10 December 2015 6:19:12 PM Javier Juan Albarracín wrote: > El Jueves, 10 de diciembre de 2015 10:16:03 Tim Folger escribió: > > On Thursday 10 December 2015 9:03:33 AM Dominique Dumont wrote: > > > On Sunday 06 December 2015 15:34:59 you wrote: > > > > What's the state of plasma 5

Re: Safe to upgrade?

On Sunday 06 December 2015 15:34:59 you wrote: > What's the state of plasma 5 now in testing? Is it generally safe to > upgrade? I use plasma5 from sid on a desktop and a laptop. This is fairly stable now and usable. Suspend and resume now work most of the time. This point was hugely improved

Re: Safe to upgrade?

Am Mittwoch, 9. Dezember 2015, 17:56:33 CET schrieb Marc Haber: > On Tue, Dec 08, 2015 at 06:56:45PM +, Chris Knadle wrote: > > Marc Haber: > > > On Tue, Dec 08, 2015 at 05:31:43PM +, Chris Knadle wrote: > > >> However just within the last couple of weeks there's been a lot of work > > >>

Re: Safe to upgrade?

On Thursday 10 December 2015 11:43:50 PM Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 10. Dezember 2015, 10:16:03 CET schrieb Tim Folger: > > Thanks, Dominique. That's good to know. Do you happen to use Network > > Manager? I started using it for the first time on my new laptop running > > debian

Re: Safe to upgrade?

Am Donnerstag, 10. Dezember 2015, 09:03:33 CET schrieb Dominique Dumont: > I still have some issues when switching on and off an external screen (the > laptop is 1920x1080 and the screen is 1920x1200). > When the external screen is switched off, the layout is readjusted for the > smaller screen,

Re: Safe to upgrade?

Am Donnerstag, 10. Dezember 2015, 10:16:03 CET schrieb Tim Folger: > Thanks, Dominique. That's good to know. Do you happen to use Network > Manager? I started using it for the first time on my new laptop running > debian testing and kde 4.14.2, and it has been working really well. For > years I

Re: Safe to upgrade?

El Jueves, 10 de diciembre de 2015 10:16:03 Tim Folger escribió: > On Thursday 10 December 2015 9:03:33 AM Dominique Dumont wrote: > > On Sunday 06 December 2015 15:34:59 you wrote: > > > What's the state of plasma 5 now in testing? Is it generally safe to > > > upgrade? > > > > I use plasma5

Re: Safe to upgrade?

On Thursday 10 December 2015 9:03:33 AM Dominique Dumont wrote: > On Sunday 06 December 2015 15:34:59 you wrote: > > What's the state of plasma 5 now in testing? Is it generally safe to > > upgrade? > > I use plasma5 from sid on a desktop and a laptop. > > This is fairly stable now and usable.

Re: Safe to upgrade?

On 12/10/2015 02:38 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: martin@merkaba:~> uptime 23:34:54 up 4 days, 11:08, 0 users, load average: 1,22, 1,61, 1,58 with several suspend and several hibernation cycles in between, cause I never it it running through the night. No issue. Just works. Even with two

Re: Safe to upgrade?

On Dec 10, 2015 9:04 AM, "Dominique Dumont" wrote: > > On Sunday 06 December 2015 15:34:59 you wrote: > > What's the state of plasma 5 now in testing? Is it generally safe to > > upgrade? > > I use plasma5 from sid on a desktop and a laptop. > > This is fairly stable now and

Re: Safe to upgrade?

On Thursday 10 December 2015 23:42:34 Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Yeah. I think Debian Qt/KDE team can need help with that. Lisandro may be > working on it, but it overloaded with other work already. I understand. I almost jumped in to help, but then I remembered that I still have trouble

Re: Safe to upgrade?

I run Plasma (testing/sid) on a desktop, so no suspend function needed. I really like it and it is very, very usable. Luc 2015-12-09 18:42 GMT+01:00 Chris Knadle : > Marc Haber: > > On Tue, Dec 08, 2015 at 06:56:45PM +, Chris Knadle wrote: > >> Marc Haber: > >>> On

Re: Safe to upgrade?

On Tue, Dec 08, 2015 at 06:56:45PM +, Chris Knadle wrote: > Marc Haber: > > On Tue, Dec 08, 2015 at 05:31:43PM +, Chris Knadle wrote: > >> However just within the last couple of weeks there's been a lot of work on > >> the KDE5 packages and Plasma 5 is now usable. > > > > I still

Re: Safe to upgrade?

My experience is not as bad as your comments. It is true that I didn't have KDE in August when surely Plasma 5 was really unstable. But now it is quite stable. I experienced some crashes with KRunner, but not much more. I work all days with KDE both for normal usage and for job-related tasks

Re: Safe to upgrade?

Marc Haber: > On Tue, Dec 08, 2015 at 06:56:45PM +, Chris Knadle wrote: >> Marc Haber: >>> On Tue, Dec 08, 2015 at 05:31:43PM +, Chris Knadle wrote: However just within the last couple of weeks there's been a lot of work on the KDE5 packages and Plasma 5 is now usable. >>> >>> I

Re: Safe to upgrade?

Hey, Tim. Tim Folger: > Hi, > > I'm running debian testing, with kde version 4.14.2, Given some of the > problems I've seen posted on this list, I've been hesitating to upgrade to > Plasma 5. What's the state of plasma 5 now in testing? Is it generally safe > to > upgrade? > > Thanks for

Re: Safe to upgrade?

On Tue, Dec 08, 2015 at 05:31:43PM +, Chris Knadle wrote: > However just within the last couple of weeks there's been a lot of work on > the KDE5 packages and Plasma 5 is now usable. I still regularly experience plasmashell taking 100 % CPU and needing a kill + restart. This especially

Re: Safe to upgrade?

Marc Haber: > On Tue, Dec 08, 2015 at 05:31:43PM +, Chris Knadle wrote: >> However just within the last couple of weeks there's been a lot of work on >> the KDE5 packages and Plasma 5 is now usable. > > I still regularly experience plasmashell taking 100 % CPU and needing > a kill + restart.

Re: Safe to upgrade?

On Monday 07 December 2015 12:39:32 PM Javier Juan Albarracin wrote: > Hi Tim, > > I have recently updated (3 days ago) my Debian testing Plasma 4.14.2 to > Plasma 5 successfully, but it was not trivial. > > First, I tried to do the Plasma 5 upgrade by migrating from stable to > testing and

Re: Safe to upgrade?

Hi Tim, I have recently updated (3 days ago) my Debian testing Plasma 4.14.2 to Plasma 5 successfully, but it was not trivial. First, I tried to do the Plasma 5 upgrade by migrating from stable to testing and performing the typicall apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade. However, such

Re: Safe to upgrade my KDE 3.3.2 to v3.4? [startx doesn't work -- freezes OR xinit: Server error

OK, I decided to do an apt-get dist-upgrade, but I ran into problems in starting X. :( I copied and pasted a copy of my apt-get logs in the bottom of the e-mail. I did not see any errors. When I use startx command (I boot up Linux into text mode; no GUI), startx just hangs. I tried with two

Re: Safe to upgrade my KDE 3.3.2 to v3.4? [startx doesn't work -- freezes OR xinit: Server error

On Sunday 09 October 2005 08:19, Phillip Pi wrote: OK, I decided to do an apt-get dist-upgrade, but I ran into problems in starting X. :( I copied and pasted a copy of my apt-get logs in the bottom of the e-mail. I did not see any errors. When I use startx command (I boot up Linux into text

Re: Safe to upgrade my KDE 3.3.2 to v3.4? [startx doesn't work -- freezes OR xinit: Server error

OK, I decided to do an apt-get dist-upgrade, but I ran into problems in starting X. :( I copied and pasted a copy of my apt-get logs in the bottom of the e-mail. I did not see any errors. When I use startx command (I boot up Linux into text mode; no GUI), startx just hangs. I tried with

Re: Safe to upgrade my KDE 3.3.2 to v3.4? [startx doesn't work -- freezes OR xinit: Server error

On Sunday 09 October 2005 08:58, Phillip Pi wrote: You've to upgrade to Xorg too (at least xserver-xorg). Ahhh! Isn't Xorg completely different from X11 or is that just a new name but still the same thing? It's a fork of XFree86 4.3.xxx so it's more or less the same. I wonder why apt-get

Re: Safe to upgrade my KDE 3.3.2 to v3.4? [startx doesn't work -- freezes OR xinit: Server error

On Sun, Oct 09, 2005 at 09:59:55AM +0200, André Wöbbeking wrote: On Sunday 09 October 2005 08:58, Phillip Pi wrote: You've to upgrade to Xorg too (at least xserver-xorg). Ahhh! Isn't Xorg completely different from X11 or is that just a new name but still the same thing? It's a fork

Re: Safe to upgrade my KDE 3.3.2 to v3.4? [startx doesn't work -- freezes OR xinit: Server error

Am Sonntag, 9. Oktober 2005 10:15 schrieb Phillip Pi: Do you've x-window-system (-core) installed? It depends on xserver-org. Currently, no: # apt-get install x-window-core Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done E: Couldn't find package x-window-core The package is

Re: Safe to upgrade my KDE 3.3.2 to v3.4?

Am Sonntag, 9. Oktober 2005 07:04 schrieb Björn Krombholz: Take a look at the docs, especially for the new udev-package, because the configuration of hotplug changed. If you don't use self-compiled kernel and want ALSA to work, you might want to wait till the packages that blacklist stuff

Re: Safe to upgrade my KDE 3.3.2 to v3.4?

On Sun, Oct 09, 2005 at 12:21:12PM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote: Take a look at the docs, especially for the new udev-package, because the configuration of hotplug changed. If you don't use self-compiled kernel and want ALSA to work, you might want to wait till the packages that

Re: Safe to upgrade my KDE 3.3.2 to v3.4?

On Saturday 08 October 2005 10:56 pm, Phillip Pi wrote: Hello! I am still using KDE v3.3.2 on my Debian (Kernel 2.6.12-K7) box. I would like to upgrade to 3.4 if possible, but I was told that it is not ready weeks ago. Is it still not ready? I had these dependencies: If there ever was the

Re: Safe to upgrade my KDE 3.3.2 to v3.4?

On Sun, Oct 09, 2005 at 12:34:31AM -0400, Silvan wrote: On Saturday 08 October 2005 10:56 pm, Phillip Pi wrote: Hello! I am still using KDE v3.3.2 on my Debian (Kernel 2.6.12-K7) box. I would like to upgrade to 3.4 if possible, but I was told that it is not ready weeks ago. Is it still not

Re: Safe to upgrade my KDE 3.3.2 to v3.4?

2005/10/9, Phillip Pi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello! I am still using KDE v3.3.2 on my Debian (Kernel 2.6.12-K7) box. I would like to upgrade to 3.4 if possible, but I was told that it is not ready weeks ago. Is it still not ready? [...] I still run into dependency issues that I am worried about

Re: safe to upgrade sid?

I had this problem on a newly installed machine, but I solved it by downgrading kdelibs4 and kdelibs-bin to 3.3.2-6.1. kmail now does not segfault. I await 3.4.1 with interest. David On Saturday 16 July 2005 02:16, Tim Folger wrote: Has anyone upgraded sid within the last few days without

OT: Package stability (was: Re: safe to upgrade sid?)

On Saturday 16 July 2005 21:00, Adeodato Simó wrote: * Anders Breindahl [Sat, 16 Jul 2005 19:37:40 +0200]: It is rather disturbing, that errors in libraries in unstable is not prioritized any higher than the ongoing transitions. Sorry, but if this fuckup has not been fixed already is

Re: OT: Package stability (was: Re: safe to upgrade sid?)

On Sunday 17 July 2005 11:35 am, Anders Breindahl wrote: ... All that is well known. The morale is, that I still shouldn't suggest Unstable to users I help install, and that I really should consider Testing myself. I assume that such ``errors'' as kmail breaking would be considered rather

Re: safe to upgrade sid?

Thanks for the advice, Josh and Larry. I think I will hold off on upgrading. Tim On Friday 15 July 2005 09:11 pm, Josh Metzler wrote: On Friday 15 July 2005 09:16 pm, Tim Folger wrote: Has anyone upgraded sid within the last few days without encountering the segfault with kmail? Does the

Re: safe to upgrade sid?

On Saturday 16 July 2005 05:11, Josh Metzler wrote: There is also the gcc 4.0 transition going on and the xfree86 - x.org transition. The current plan is that qt3 and then kde 3.4 will be uploaded once x.org has built on all architectures. I plan to wait on upgrading anything x or kde

Re: safe to upgrade sid?

Well, there is a certain logic to it. Sid is explicitly not intended for production use (although many, including myself, get away with it without too man problems). So, if given the choice between these two options: - Upgrade package XYZ - Switch to gcc 4 - Recompile/debug package XYZ under

Re: safe to upgrade sid?

On Saturday 16 July 2005 01:37 pm, Anders Breindahl wrote: On Saturday 16 July 2005 05:11, Josh Metzler wrote: There is also the gcc 4.0 transition going on and the xfree86 - x.org transition. The current plan is that qt3 and then kde 3.4 will be uploaded once x.org has built on all

Re: safe to upgrade sid?

* Anders Breindahl [Sat, 16 Jul 2005 19:37:40 +0200]: It is rather disturbing, that errors in libraries in unstable is not prioritized any higher than the ongoing transitions. Sorry, but if this fuckup has not been fixed already is because it can't be fixed without major pain, due to GCC

Re: safe to upgrade sid?

KMail is behaving itself for me (Sid + Alioth), but right now konq-plugins and kdeaddons are conflicting with each other, even though kdeaddons requires konq-plugins. :-) (I think it's because for some reason apt-get show gives konq-plugins 3.4.0pre2 while apt-get install gives konq-plugins

Re: safe to upgrade sid?

On Friday 15 July 2005 09:16 pm, Tim Folger wrote: Has anyone upgraded sid within the last few days without encountering the segfault with kmail? Does the upgrade still break kmail? Tim There hasn't been any change in sid regarding kde libraries or kmail - the kdelibs version that causes

Re: Safe to upgrade testing/sid KDE now?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 08:59:03PM -0800, Hereon wrote: Is there info available that indicates whether it is safe to apt-get upgrade a KDE system? [ie, that the upgrade will not result in major packages missing, or not working.] If you need to ask

Re: Safe to upgrade testing/sid KDE now? - OK vs Broken

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 22:22:47 -0800, Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 08:59:03PM -0800, Hereon wrote: Is there info available that indicates whether it is safe to apt-get upgrade a KDE system? [ie, that the upgrade will not result in major packages missing, or not

Re: Safe to upgrade testing/sid KDE now?

On Wednesday 25 February 2004 05:59, Hereon wrote: I have a KDE 3.1.4 on testing/woody, for x86, using pinning to get the sid debs, last updated about 2 mos ago. Well if you know enough to be able to handle the trouble of keeping a system in such a weird state, then yes I'd say it's probably

Re: Safe to upgrade testing/sid KDE now?

On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 08:27:54AM +0100, Anders Ellensh?j Andersen wrote: On Wednesday 25 February 2004 05:59, Hereon wrote: I have a KDE 3.1.4 on testing/woody, for x86, using pinning to get the sid debs, last updated about 2 mos ago. Well if you know enough to be able to handle the