Re: Partitioning an SSD?

2023-02-15 Thread Felix Miata
DdB composed on 2023-02-16 07:44 (UTC+0100): > I do use (NVMe-) SSD, and i did partition it. > I did it to make sure, pages/partitions start on PHYSICAL boundaries, > not the logical ones reported to satisfy Windooze. What physical boundaries do SSDs have to report? All I know about that are

Re: Partitioning an SSD?

2023-02-15 Thread DdB
Am 16.02.2023 um 07:44 schrieb DdB: > I do use (NVMe-) SSD, and i did partition it. > I did it to make sure, pages/partitions start on PHYSICAL boundaries, > not the logical ones reported to satisfy Windooze. Not every model > reports correct hardware parameters to the OS. > > What i would

Re: Partitioning an SSD?

2023-02-15 Thread DdB
Am 15.02.2023 um 23:58 schrieb PMA: > Dear Debian, > > I'm preparing to install Debian 11.5.0 on a new computer. > Its drives are SSDs, not the HDDs I've been accustomed > to and have always fastidiously *partitioned*. > > With my file groupings already well differentiated c/o > directory-tree

Re: Partitioning an SSD?

2023-02-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 11:23:52PM -0500, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: Here's why you would partition a drive. Reinstalling (which I end up having to do every time Debian comes out with a new version) means overwriting the storage. I already acknowleged that people can do what they want

Re: needrestart question

2023-02-15 Thread l0f4r0
Hello, 16 févr. 2023, 02:12 de ghe2...@pm.me: > I run needrestart when there's a little updating available, and it always > says it can't update the CPU microcode. Add -v and it says: > > > [main] needrestart v3.5 > ... > [ucode] using NeedRestart::uCode::Intel > [ucode] using

Re: Partitioning an SSD?

2023-02-15 Thread paulf
On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 18:45:49 -0500 Michael Stone wrote: > > I don't personally think there's a point in partitioning any storage > device on a user system these days beyond what's required to boot. If > you want to do more, that's a personal preference. Being an SSD > doesn't really change

Re: Partitioning an SSD?

2023-02-15 Thread David Christensen
On 2/15/23 14:58, PMA wrote: Dear Debian, I'm preparing to install Debian 11.5.0 on a new computer. Please tell us about the computer, the environment it will be deployed in (including Internet access or none), and the role of the computer. Its drives are SSDs, not the HDDs I've been

Re: Partitioning an SSD?

2023-02-15 Thread piorunz
On 15/02/2023 22:58, PMA wrote: is there any further advantage to be had in partitioning *these* drives? Although some people still prefer to leave about 20% of a SSD as raw unpartitioned space, so SSD can spare/level out sectors to that empty space, this is IMO on longer necessary, as you

needrestart question

2023-02-15 Thread ghe2001
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Debian: Bullseye, Box: SuperMicro, CPU: 2.4G 8 core Intel Xeon I run needrestart when there's a little updating available, and it always says it can't update the CPU microcode. Add -v and it says: [main] needrestart v3.5 ... [ucode] using

Re: Partitioning an SSD?

2023-02-15 Thread jeremy ardley
On 16/2/23 07:45, Michael Stone wrote: I don't personally think there's a point in partitioning any storage device on a user system these days beyond what's required to boot. If you want to do more, that's a personal preference. Being an SSD doesn't really change things. I agree with

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 11:49:51AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 03:07:08PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 02:33:12PM +, Tim Woodall wrote: > On Fri, 10 Feb 2023, jeremy ardley wrote: > > you can ping them as in > > > > ping

Re: Partitioning an SSD?

2023-02-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 05:58:47PM -0500, PMA wrote: I'm preparing to install Debian 11.5.0 on a new computer. Its drives are SSDs, not the HDDs I've been accustomed to and have always fastidiously *partitioned*. With my file groupings already well differentiated c/o directory-tree layout, is

Partitioning an SSD?

2023-02-15 Thread PMA
Dear Debian, I'm preparing to install Debian 11.5.0 on a new computer. Its drives are SSDs, not the HDDs I've been accustomed to and have always fastidiously *partitioned*. With my file groupings already well differentiated c/o directory-tree layout, is there any further advantage to be had in

Re: avahi & gene (was: ipv6 maybe has arrived)

2023-02-15 Thread gene heskett
On 2/15/23 17:05, Felix Miata wrote: gene heskett composed on 2023-02-15 16:24 (UTC-0500): I've got around 5 machines Every one of them has had avahi removed by a root rm, and has some variation of this in an /etc/resolv.conf that is a real file, before the local network worked. Do you

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 04:24:36PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: you basically just made this up No Michael, just recalling our interaction history, the general tone being to give me hell for using hosts files instead of running a dns. I have not told you that you need to use bind instead of

Re: avahi & gene (was: ipv6 maybe has arrived)

2023-02-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 05:05:42PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > gene heskett composed on 2023-02-15 16:24 (UTC-0500): > > > I've got around 5 machines > > Every one of them has had avahi removed by a root rm, and has some > > variation of this in an /etc/resolv.conf that is a real file,

Re: avahi & gene (was: ipv6 maybe has arrived)

2023-02-15 Thread Felix Miata
gene heskett composed on 2023-02-15 16:24 (UTC-0500): > I've got around 5 machines > Every one of them has had avahi removed by a root rm, and has some > variation of this in an /etc/resolv.conf that is a real file, before the > local network worked. Do you have TDE on none of these

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-15 Thread gene heskett
On 2/15/23 13:08, Michael Stone wrote: On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 09:30:57AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: True. But I'd also suggest that if you do not want to support /etc/hosts files name resolution methods /etc/hosts works and has worked fine on debian for decades I've got around 5 machines

Code of Conduct reminder [WAS Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.]

2023-02-15 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 01:07:29PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 09:30:57AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > True. But I'd also suggest that if you do not want to support /etc/hosts > > files name resolution methods > > /etc/hosts works and has worked fine on debian for

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 10:12:32AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: Sorry, Gene's line was actually "search hosts, nameserver". So, "ping coyote" should have triggered name resolution for "coyote.hosts" and/or "coyote.nameserver". It's just barely conceivable that *something* might have created a

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 09:30:57AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: True. But I'd also suggest that if you do not want to support /etc/hosts files name resolution methods /etc/hosts works and has worked fine on debian for decades to. Your attitude that everybody with a two machine home network

Re: how report a bug?

2023-02-15 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 03:21:08PM +0200, Alexander Procenko wrote: > Hi > https://forum.qt.io/topic/142922/qt-5-15-4-and-upper-nvidia-driver-340-108-segmentation-fault-of-all-qt-soft > > freeartist-devuan@home:~$ reportbug > Please enter the name of the package in which you have found a problem,

Re: Flatpak memory usage

2023-02-15 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I'm not a friend of flatpaks and similar concepts, either. For me, > it's not memory use, but the shifting of power from a distrubution > model to single applications. I find that makes software less "free". Indeed. These end up reproducing the black-box model "it just works". If you like

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 10:04:14AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > The part I still don't understand is how adding "search files, nameserver" > to /etc/resolv.conf and rebooting could change the behavior of any of > Gene's commands. Sorry, Gene's line was actually "search hosts, nameserver". So,

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 08:34:49AM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 07:30:44AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > That said, I'm curious about this part oF Gene's result: > > > > > > gene@bpi54:~$ grep -i bpi54 /etc/hosts > > > > 192.168.71.12 bpi54.coyote.den

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-15 Thread gene heskett
On 2/15/23 09:20, Charles Curley wrote: On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 07:57:09 -0500 gene heskett wrote: 192.168.71.4sixty40.coyote.den sixty40 192.168.71.7vna.coyote.deb vna I think you have a typo in the line for vna. Correct, Charles, but that machine died 2

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-15 Thread gene heskett
On 2/15/23 08:41, Michael Stone wrote: On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 07:57:09AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: And this disclosed that I had not properly added coyote.coyote.den to the /etc/hosts file on that machine. That mistake, fixed, now makes the local net pingable. The rest of it, whats powered

kmail crashes sometimes at mails with attachement

2023-02-15 Thread Hans
Hi folks, I do not know, if someone did notice this too: I am using kmail (version 5.15.3 and running into this issue, that kmail is crashing, when there is a mail with an attachement, As long as I any other mail is active (clicked on and reading), nothing happens, but as soon as I click

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-15 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 07:57:09 -0500 gene heskett wrote: > 192.168.71.4 sixty40.coyote.den sixty40 > 192.168.71.7 vna.coyote.deb vna I think you have a typo in the line for vna. -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 03:46:21PM +0300, Reco wrote: libnss-myhostname does that. Why it chooses ipv6 link-local over ipv4 static IP is another question. perhaps because ipv6 is preferred and there is no public ip6. it doesn't really matter because normal users won't notice or care whether

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 07:57:09AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: And this disclosed that I had not properly added coyote.coyote.den to the /etc/hosts file on that machine. That mistake, fixed, now makes the local net pingable. The rest of it, whats powered up, was/is all pingable. It just wasn't

how report a bug?

2023-02-15 Thread Alexander Procenko
Hi https://forum.qt.io/topic/142922/qt-5-15-4-and-upper-nvidia-driver-340-108-segmentation-fault-of-all-qt-soft freeartist-devuan@home:~$ reportbug Please enter the name of the package in which you have found a problem, or type 'other' to report a more general problem. If you don't know what

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 07:30:44AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: That said, I'm curious about this part oF Gene's result: > gene@bpi54:~$ grep -i bpi54 /etc/hosts > 192.168.71.12 bpi54.coyote.denbpi54 > gene@bpi54:~$ getent hosts bpi54 > fe80::4765:bca4:565d:3c6 bpi54

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-15 Thread gene heskett
On 2/15/23 07:31, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 08:30:08AM +0100, Michel Verdier wrote: Le 15 février 2023 gene heskett a écrit : gene@bpi54:~$ grep -i bpi54 /etc/hosts 192.168.71.12 bpi54.coyote.denbpi54 gene@bpi54:~$ getent hosts bpi54

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-15 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 07:30:44AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > That said, I'm curious about this part oF Gene's result: > > > > gene@bpi54:~$ grep -i bpi54 /etc/hosts > > > 192.168.71.12 bpi54.coyote.denbpi54 > > > gene@bpi54:~$ getent hosts bpi54 > > >

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-15 Thread gene heskett
On 2/15/23 02:30, Michel Verdier wrote: Le 15 février 2023 gene heskett a écrit : gene@bpi54:~$ grep -i bpi54 /etc/hosts 192.168.71.12 bpi54.coyote.denbpi54 gene@bpi54:~$ getent hosts bpi54 fe80::4765:bca4:565d:3c6 bpi54 gene@bpi54:~$ ping -c1 coyote (this machines alias in

Re: awk not just using the Field separator as such. it is using the blank space as well ...

2023-02-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 12:09:28PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 2/15/23, DdB wrote: > > $ echo "Adams, Fred, and Ken Aizawa \"The Bounds of Cognition\"" | awk > > -F'\"' '{for (i=1; i<=NF; i++) print $i;}' > > Adams, Fred, and Ken Aizawa > > The Bounds of Cognition > > yes and this also

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 08:30:08AM +0100, Michel Verdier wrote: > Le 15 février 2023 gene heskett a écrit : > > > gene@bpi54:~$ grep -i bpi54 /etc/hosts > > 192.168.71.12 bpi54.coyote.denbpi54 > > gene@bpi54:~$ getent hosts bpi54 > > fe80::4765:bca4:565d:3c6 bpi54 > >

Re: awk not just using the Field separator as such. it is using the blank space as well ...

2023-02-15 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 2/15/23, DdB wrote: > $ echo "Adams, Fred, and Ken Aizawa \"The Bounds of Cognition\"" | awk > -F'\"' '{for (i=1; i<=NF; i++) print $i;}' > Adams, Fred, and Ken Aizawa > The Bounds of Cognition yes and this also works: _L="Adams, Fred, and Ken Aizawa \"The Bounds of Cognition\"" echo

Re: Debian Nordic 2022 & 2023 -- Wiki Updated & Matrix Server Move

2023-02-15 Thread Luna Jernberg
Hey! Won't go to foss-north 2023 myself this year, got other things to do that also costs money so sadly can't afford it this year On 1/16/23, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > [Luna Jernberg] >> Hello Debian friends! >> >> The Community day for foss-north 2023: https://foss-north.se/2023/ has >>

Re: Debian Nordic 2022 & 2023 -- Wiki Updated & Matrix Server Move

2023-02-15 Thread Luna Jernberg
Hey! Won't go to foss-north 2023 myself this year, got other things to do that also costs money so sadly can't afford it this year On 1/16/23, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > [Luna Jernberg] >> Hello Debian friends! >> >> The Community day for foss-north 2023: https://foss-north.se/2023/ has >>

Re: ipv6 maybe has arrived.

2023-02-15 Thread tomas
On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 03:07:08PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 02:33:12PM +, Tim Woodall wrote: > > On Fri, 10 Feb 2023, jeremy ardley wrote: > > > you can ping them as in > > > > > > ping fe80::87d:c6ff:fea4:a6fc > > > > > > > ooh, I didn't know that worked. > >

Re: awk not just using the Field separator as such. it is using the blank space as well ...

2023-02-15 Thread David
On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 at 18:22, DdB wrote: > Am 15.02.2023 um 07:25 schrieb Albretch Mueller: > > $ _L="Adams, Fred, and Ken Aizawa \"The Bounds of Cognition\"" > > echo "// __ \$_L: |${_L}|" > > _AR=($(echo "${_L}" | awk -F'\"' '{for (i=1; i<=NF; i++) print $i}' )) > > _AR_L=${#_AR[@]} > > echo

Re: Flatpak memory usage

2023-02-15 Thread Nicolas George
to...@tuxteam.de (12023-02-15): > I'm not a friend of flatpaks and similar concepts, either. For me, > it's not memory use, but the shifting of power from a distrubution > model to single applications. I find that makes software less "free". > > In a distro, applications have to get along with