Re: Mailing list usage questions

Tom Furie wrote: > It occurs to me that I'm not even aware of what list management > software these lists are managed with anymore. | All original Debian mailing lists are run on a special server, using an | automatic mail processing software called SmartList.

Re: how to change default nameserver?

On 12/04/2023 00:36, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: If you're deafblind and using a Braille reader - it looks for a serial tty. That's the only way it can work. It can't ask you first necessarily. Since new class of users has been identified, namely those who have serial port adapters, but no

Re: update-initramfs

Le 11 avril 2023 davidson a écrit : > # update-initramfs -u > # update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-5.10.0-21-amd64-kg > W: missing /lib/modules/5.10.0-21-amd64-kg Of course : /lib/modules/ is installed via package. You have to do it manually to get rid of this error. And without it

Re: Mailing list usage questions

On 2023-04-11 at 16:22, zithro wrote: > Hello all, > > I have two questions about the Debians ML usage. > > 1. when subscribing, the confirmation message says "By default, copies > of your own submissions will be returned." > What is the meaning of "default" and "returned" here ? > I

Re: update-initramfs

On Tue 11 Apr 2023 at 22:14:18 (+0200), zithro wrote: > I thought : > > - you can install as many kernel packages as you want, whether built > or downloaded > - updates don't automatically remove old kernels/initrd by default > > So I wonder, why handling it manually ? > What is the advantage,

Bookworm lockup: Report bug?

Dear group, This morning I encountered my PC being frozen. Here are the last journalctl messages, just before I forced it to power down and reboot: Apr 10 07:31:07 gar systemd[1]: Started anacron.service - Run anacron jobs. Apr 10 07:31:07 gar anacron[4875]: Anacron 2.3 started on 2023-04-10

Re: how to change default nameserver?

On 11 Apr 2023 22:18, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 09:56:05PM +0200, zithro wrote: Do you know when resolv.conf started appearing ? I guess after TCP/IP got invented ? The wikipedia page does not mention it. says it first appeared in

Re: how to change default nameserver?

On 4/11/23 13:39, zithro wrote: On 11 Apr 2023 19:09, gene heskett wrote: On 4/11/23 10:04, zithro wrote: On 11 Apr 2023 04:56, gene heskett wrote: On 4/10/23 16:53, zithro wrote: Why can't you follow others advice, hell, if you don't trust us, even the perfectly correct and up-to-date

Re: OT - Pero absolutamente OT (Es más, lo publico a riesgo de ser bloqueado)

El mar, 11 abr 2023 a las 12:46, JavierDebian (< javier.debian.bb...@gmail.com>) escribió: > Buen día. > > Después de casi 20 años usando Debian, haber "evangelizado" a muchos, > una de mis hijas me hizo un regalito. > > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/bhedideiv9seux1/IMG_20230411_123731807.jpg?dl=0

Re: OT - Pero absolutamente OT (Es más, lo publico a riesgo de ser bloqueado)

Me encantó. Estas cosas le dan mucha vida a la lista. Saludos

Re: Mailing list usage questions

On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 10:51:43PM +0200, zithro wrote: > I already sent "help" to the ML but it did not provide any hints. > Hence my question here ; ) Oh! Yes, I see the reply to that message is much less useful than it once was... Previously it would supply a list of commands for subscription

Re: Mailing list usage questions

On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 10:22:59PM +0200, zithro wrote: > Hello all, > > I have two questions about the Debians ML usage. > > 1. when subscribing, the confirmation message says "By default, copies of > your own submissions will be returned." > What is the meaning of "default" and "returned" here

Re: Mailing list usage questions

On 11 Apr 2023 22:39, Tom Furie wrote: In the headers of every mail on debian lists are some "List-*" headers. In there you can find an address and subject to get help on list commands etc. (At least, I assume it still works. I haven't used it in a long time and didn't bother to check before

Re: how to change default nameserver?

On 11 Apr 2023 22:18, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 09:56:05PM +0200, zithro wrote: Do you know when resolv.conf started appearing ? I guess after TCP/IP got invented ? The wikipedia page does not mention it. says it first appeared in

Re: Mailing list usage questions

On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 10:22:59PM +0200, zithro wrote: > I have two questions about the Debians ML usage. > > 1. when subscribing, the confirmation message says "By default, copies of > your own submissions will be returned." > What is the meaning of "default" and "returned" here ? > I

Re: how to change default nameserver?

On 4/11/23 13:36, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 01:09:37PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: So ATM I have no clue what I did because I've forgotten whatever I did to make it work for bullseye, lost in the noise from doing 23 damned installs before someone suggested I unplug all

Mailing list usage questions

Hello all, I have two questions about the Debians ML usage. 1. when subscribing, the confirmation message says "By default, copies of your own submissions will be returned." What is the meaning of "default" and "returned" here ? I understand that I should get my own replies. But I never get

Re: how to change default nameserver?

On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 09:56:05PM +0200, zithro wrote: > Do you know when resolv.conf started appearing ? > I guess after TCP/IP got invented ? > The wikipedia page does not mention it. says it first appeared in 4.3BSD. I can neither confirm nor deny this,

Re: update-initramfs

I thought : - you can install as many kernel packages as you want, whether built or downloaded - updates don't automatically remove old kernels/initrd by default So I wonder, why handling it manually ? What is the advantage, except for adding -confusion- ?

Re: update-initramfs

On Tue 11 Apr 2023 at 10:51:19 (-0400), Marc Auslander wrote: > On 4/10/2023 11:00 PM, David Wright wrote: > > On Mon 10 Apr 2023 at 20:17:11 (-0400), Marc Auslander wrote: > > > I'm on Buster. > > > > > > In /boot I keep a copy of the current working linux named by appending > > > -knowngood to

Re: how to change default nameserver?

On 11 Apr 2023 13:25, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> On 11 Apr 2023 08:55, Richard Hector wrote: Well, it's not in resolver(5) (which is for resolv.conf) on Red Hat 5.0.5. It wasn't in the man page from Red Hat 5.2 when I checked in 2017, either. Thanks for the history digging ! Do you know when

Re: update-initramfs

On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 davidson wrote: On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 Michel Verdier wrote: Le 11 avril 2023 davidson a écrit : Experiment #2: see if I could tweak OP's practice enough so that update-grub would not care. ...and so that "update-initramfs -u" would not notice. -- Sometimes it pays to

Re: update-initramfs

On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 Michel Verdier wrote: Le 11 avril 2023 davidson a écrit : The first experiment simply tried to replicate your observations (as I understood them). Basically, I added "-kg" suffix to all the files in /boot corresponding to latest installed kernel, so that I had unsuffixed

Re: how to change default nameserver?

On Tue, Apr 11, 2023, 12:40 PM zithro wrote: > > There's 25 years of history to computing before Linus released his his > linux > > Computer history started WAY before that. > > > Keeping networking working on linux has been an art, not a science. > .. > Follow advices. > I guess I'm

Re: Debian Buster - CVE-2023-27522 pas de fix ?

Hello, 11 avr. 2023, 17:24 de stephane.bu...@new-immo-group.com: > Est-ce que c'est une erreur ou est-ce qu'il y a une explication ? > Je dirais principalement parce que Buster n'est plus officiellement supporté (= par les équipes Debian) depuis le 10/09/2022 [1] [1] 

Re: update-initramfs

Le 11 avril 2023 davidson a écrit : > The first experiment simply tried to replicate your observations (as I > understood them). Basically, I added "-kg" suffix to all the files in > /boot corresponding to latest installed kernel, so that I had > unsuffixed copies and "*-kg" ("knowngood") copies,

Re: apt temporary failure resolving deb.debian.org

On Mon, 10 Apr 2023, Tim Woodall wrote: On Mon, 10 Apr 2023, Lee wrote: Why are you using google as forwarders ? To eliminate as many variables as possible. delv talking to google works. delv talking to bind talking to google fails. When talking directly, delv is using udp to talk to

Re: how to change default nameserver?

On 11 Apr 2023 19:09, gene heskett wrote: On 4/11/23 10:04, zithro wrote: On 11 Apr 2023 04:56, gene heskett wrote: On 4/10/23 16:53, zithro wrote: Why can't you follow others advice, hell, if you don't trust us, even the perfectly correct and up-to-date manpages ? After reading the posts of

Re: how to change default nameserver?

On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 01:09:37PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > Keeping networking working on linux has been an art, not a science. > looking at one of my buster machines. /etc/network/interfaces has this: > > # The primary network interface > allow-hotplug eno1 > iface eno1 inet static >

Re: how to change default nameserver?

On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 01:09:37PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > So ATM I have no clue what I did because I've forgotten whatever I did to > make it work for bullseye, lost in the noise from doing 23 damned installs > before someone suggested I unplug all usb, but my key board and mouse are >

Re: update-initramfs

On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 Marc Auslander wrote: On 4/10/2023 11:00 PM, David Wright wrote: On Mon 10 Apr 2023 at 20:17:11 (-0400), Marc Auslander wrote: I'm on Buster. In /boot I keep a copy of the current working linux named by appending -knowngood to the four files. My idea is that if an update

hplip on debian 11

A few weeks ago, I installed Debian 11 on a Dell Vosotro-200 belonging to a friend. I installed the hplip package and used hp-setup, which successfully got an old HP ink jet printer working on the system. The friend also has a Dell Optiplex 330, on which I installed Debian 11 a few months ago.

Re: how to change default nameserver?

On 4/11/23 10:04, zithro wrote: On 11 Apr 2023 04:56, gene heskett wrote: On 4/10/23 16:53, zithro wrote: Why can't you follow others advice, hell, if you don't trust us, even the perfectly correct and up-to-date manpages ? After reading the posts of others, I'm more and more thinking your

Re: how to change default nameserver?

On 11 Apr 2023 00:28, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 12:04:24AM +0200, zithro wrote: So, I got curious about his claim Well you can't say you haven't been warned. This rabbit hole goes very deep and the bottom will not contain the answers you seek! Cheers, Andy Ahah, I

Re: update-initramfs

On 11 Apr 2023 16:43, Marc Auslander wrote: On 4/11/2023 9:30 AM, zithro wrote: The solution is in "man update-initramfs" : update-initramfs -c -k $KERNEL_VERSION -c creates a new initramfs -k specifies the version of the kernel This breaks when package update tries to update-initramfs.  My

OT - Pero absolutamente OT (Es más, lo publico a riesgo de ser bloqueado)

Buen día. Después de casi 20 años usando Debian, haber "evangelizado" a muchos, una de mis hijas me hizo un regalito. https://www.dropbox.com/s/bhedideiv9seux1/IMG_20230411_123731807.jpg?dl=0 Me siento como Bilo y Nano, pero con el peluche correcto. JAP

Debian Buster - CVE-2023-27522 pas de fix ?

Bonjour, Je remarque que la CVE-2023-27522 qui concerne apache2 n'a pas de fixe indiqué pour Buster (marqué en vulnérable) : https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2023-25690 Est-ce que c'est une erreur ou est-ce qu'il y a une explication ? Merci :) Cordialement, Stéphane Budka

Re: Riddling over systemctl, pulseaudio, firefox-esr, and salsa.debian.org

On Mon 10 Apr 2023 at 17:42:04 (+0200), Thomas Schmitt wrote: > i experience a strange behavior of my Debian 11 with firefox-esr and > pulseaudio. > After visiting > https://salsa.debian.org/groups/optical-media-team/-/activity > the most busy process on my Debian 11 is the one that was started

Re: update-initramfs

On 4/10/2023 11:00 PM, David Wright wrote: On Mon 10 Apr 2023 at 20:17:11 (-0400), Marc Auslander wrote: I'm on Buster. In /boot I keep a copy of the current working linux named by appending -knowngood to the four files. My idea is that if an update fails, I have a recent working linux. This

Re: update-initramfs

On 4/11/2023 9:30 AM, zithro wrote: On 11 Apr 2023 02:17, Marc Auslander wrote: I'm on Buster. In /boot I keep a copy of the current working linux named by appending -knowngood to the four files.  My idea is that if an update fails, I have a recent working linux.  This is different from

Re: how to change default nameserver?

On 11 Apr 2023 04:56, gene heskett wrote: On 4/10/23 16:53, zithro wrote: Why can't you follow others advice, hell, if you don't trust us, even the perfectly correct and up-to-date manpages ? After reading the posts of others, I'm more and more thinking your simply a troll (or a RedHat fanatic

Re: How to make apt-cdrom read Flashdisk?

On Tue 11 Apr 2023 at 16:00:22 (+0700), SteffenTAN wrote: > so I got a Last School Work but, They didn't give Me a CD/DVD to Install > Debian 10.4, Samba and isc-dhcp-server > > They only give Me 3 files with name of DVD 1, 2 and 3 > so, I searching for answer then, I use rufus to Install the 1st

Re: ICMP router advertisement (ipv4)

Anssi Saari wrote: > Jeremy Ardley writes: > > > Your only option seems to be to sign up with some external IPv6 > > provider. This service (I've never used it so beware) says it gives > > you ipv6 etc for free. What their business model is I'm not sure > > https://tunnelbroker.net/ > > I

Re: update-initramfs

On 11 Apr 2023 02:17, Marc Auslander wrote: I'm on Buster. In /boot I keep a copy of the current working linux named by appending -knowngood to the four files.  My idea is that if an update fails, I have a recent working linux.  This is different from vmlinuz.old which is the previous kernel

Re: ICMP router advertisement (ipv4)

Jeremy Ardley writes: > Your only option seems to be to sign up with some external IPv6 > provider. This service (I've never used it so beware) says it gives > you ipv6 etc for free. What their business model is I'm not sure > https://tunnelbroker.net/ I doubt that's going to work for him

Re: how to change default nameserver?

> > > So Gene, can you tell us where you read this ? > > > > In a man page from a good 20 years ago. I still have a copy of that > > original redhat 5.0 on a shelf above me, but not a floppy drive to read > > those disks with. > > Well, it's not in resolver(5) (which is for resolv.conf) on Red

Re: How to make apt-cdrom read Flashdisk?

Hi, SteffenTAN wrote: > They only give Me 3 files with name of DVD 1, 2 and 3 > so, I searching for answer then, I use rufus to Install the 1st DVD (Debian > OS) it's work. I guess you could install a base system from the "DVD-1" stick and then put the mount point addresses of the two other

Re: How to make apt-cdrom read Flashdisk?

On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 5:18 AM SteffenTAN < steffentansoehiantosoeti...@gmail.com> wrote: > so I got a Last School Work but, They didn't give Me a CD/DVD to Install > Debian 10.4, Samba and isc-dhcp-server > Debian 10.4 is pretty old. Is there a reason why you have to use that version? >

How to make apt-cdrom read Flashdisk?

so I got a Last School Work but, They didn't give Me a CD/DVD to Install Debian 10.4, Samba and isc-dhcp-server They only give Me 3 files with name of DVD 1, 2 and 3 so, I searching for answer then, I use rufus to Install the 1st DVD (Debian OS) it's work. not work for CD 2 and 3 because the

Re: questions about cron.daily

On 09/04/2023 14:54, Michel Verdier wrote: Le 8 avril 2023 Max Nikulin a écrit : There is ready to use one: /usr/lib/systemd/user/emacs.service Perhaps there is no such file in buster. /usr/lib/systemd/user is for global system running. If you want to change something in the service you copy

Re: ICMP router advertisement (ipv4)

Jeremy Ardley wrote: > On 11/4/23 11:40, Tim Woodall wrote: > > > > > > My googling suggests that a superhub or hub 5 can be switched to > > 'modem only' mode but I've got a hub 6 which doesn't have that > > option. > >> > >>   Virgin Media: Virgin Media is the largest cable broadband > >>

Re: how to change default nameserver?

On 11/04/23 15:17, gene heskett wrote: On 4/10/23 18:04, zithro wrote: So, I got curious about his claim : "that change to resolv.conf adding the search line [search hosts, nameserver] has been required since red hat 5.0 in 1998". (The bracket addition is mine) I'm not using RHEl-based

Re: https://: vs. https://:.

Le 10/04/2023 à 21:37, Greg Wooledge a écrit : On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 12:13:15PM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: Name: hornby.islandhosting.com Address: 158.69.159.172 As expected, login at https://hornby.islandhosting.com:2096 and at https://mail.easthope.ca:2096 appear equivalent. But