Re: Us ha fallat l'actualització d'ahir de Debian 12.2 a Debian 12.4 ?

2023-12-15 Thread Griera
Hola: Aquest matí s'ha actualitzat a linux-image-6.1.0-16-amd64 (6.1.67-1). Salut! On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 00:13:47 + Carles Pina i Estany wrote: > > Hola, > > On 15 Dec 2023 at 06:51:29, Àlex wrote: > > Sembla que aviat tindrem un nou nucli que corregeix el problema, però > > no ho veuen

Re: setting IFS to new line doesn't work while searching?

2023-12-15 Thread David Wright
On Fri 15 Dec 2023 at 08:58:10 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 02:30:21PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > > Greg Wooledge (12023-12-15): > > > readarray -d '' fndar < <( > > > find "$sdir" ... -printf 'stuff\0' | > > > sort -z --otherflags > > > ) >

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Re: another possible audience for Debian

2023-12-15 Thread Matt
I was attempting to connect people to social change. Thank you for replying. I appreciate this mailing list. On 12/15/23 23:33, der.hans wrote: Am 15. Dec, 2023 schwätzte Matt so: moin moin Matt, I am a Debian user. An audience for Debian may be the Fediverse because the There are quite a

Re: another possible audience for Debian

2023-12-15 Thread der.hans
Am 15. Dec, 2023 schwätzte Matt so: moin moin Matt, I am a Debian user. An audience for Debian may be the Fediverse because the There are quite a few of us on the Fediverse :). There's also an account mirroring debian's micronews. @deb...@framapiaf.org ciao, der.hans Fediverse has a

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing towaitfor it to respond

2023-12-15 Thread Matt
Perhaps that is why I run DWM rather than GNOME on this T60 Thinkpad. :p On 12/15/23 23:23, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 11:05:41PM -0500, Matt wrote: I had to go to Wikipedia to understand the context of the discussion. I did read all the posted emails in the thread.

another possible audience for Debian

2023-12-15 Thread Matt
I am a Debian user. An audience for Debian may be the Fediverse because the Fediverse has a technology focused culture, and its creative endeavors could be in the form of developing Debian if many users are interested. The biases of Debian vary from topic to topic in great depth and detail.

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing towaitfor it to respond

2023-12-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 11:05:41PM -0500, Matt wrote: > I had to go to Wikipedia to understand the context of the discussion. I did > read all the posted emails in the thread. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID Knowing what RAID is... is good. But ultimately, the main takeaway from this

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing towaitfor it to respond

2023-12-15 Thread Matt
I had to go to Wikipedia to understand the context of the discussion. I did read all the posted emails in the thread. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing towaitfor it to respond

2023-12-15 Thread David Christensen
On 12/15/23 18:23, gene heskett wrote: I use the bleeding edge AppImage version of OpenSCAD, heavily, it has no such problems.  And no error outputs on the cli, it Just Works. Thank you for the reply. :-) Do you mean the following? https://openscad.org/downloads.html *** correction ***

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing towaitfor it to respond

2023-12-15 Thread David Christensen
On 12/15/23 18:23, gene heskett wrote: I use the bleeding edge AppImage version of OpenSCAD, heavily, it has no such problems.  And no error outputs on the cli, it Just Works. Thank you for the reply. :-) Do you mean the following? https://openscad.org/downloads.html

Re: Slow boot, looks like due to filesystem mounts

2023-12-15 Thread Max Nikulin
On 16/12/2023 05:08, Jeffrey Walton wrote: The resize operation included deleting swap at /dev/sda2, increasing disk size of /dev/sda, extending /dev/sda1, and recreating swap at the end of /dev/sda as /dev/sda2. [...] $ sudo blkid /dev/sda2: UUID="b05d2596-5301-47d1-b208-95fca81be94e"

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing towaitfor it to respond

2023-12-15 Thread gene heskett
On 12/15/23 06:17, David Christensen wrote: On 12/14/23 18:36, gene heskett wrote: On 12/14/23 16:36, Anssi Saari wrote: gene heskett writes: It repeats per gui access. Starting a gfx program such as OpenSCAD, or qidislicer from an xfce4 terminal cli, is delayed for this similar but not

Re: Is it safe to install Bookworm on a new machine now?

2023-12-15 Thread John Crawley
On 15/12/2023 13:39, John Crawley wrote: If you don't want to wait for 6.1.67-1 to arrive in Bookworm stable, it is available in bookworm-proposed-updates [1][2], so one workaround would be to temporarily add that repository [3] to apt sources before upgrading. Debian point release 12.4 has

Re: Us ha fallat l'actualització d'ahir de Debian 12.2 a Debian 12.4 ?

2023-12-15 Thread Carles Pina i Estany
Hola, On 15 Dec 2023 at 06:51:29, Àlex wrote: > Sembla que aviat tindrem un nou nucli que corregeix el problema, però > no ho veuen com a urgent: Explicació curta: si voleu tenir la versió que no hi ha problemes (dels d'algunes targes Wifi) es pot fer servir bookworm-updates. Com a repositoris,

Slow boot, looks like due to filesystem mounts

2023-12-15 Thread Jeffrey Walton
Hi Everyone, I'm running Debian Unstable with KDE in one of my Virtual Box VMs. I had to resize /dev/sda1. The resize operation included deleting swap at /dev/sda2, increasing disk size of /dev/sda, extending /dev/sda1, and recreating swap at the end of /dev/sda as /dev/sda2. I'm now

Re: differences among amd64 and i386

2023-12-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 09:36:19AM -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: Also see x32, . It takes advantage of amd64 benefits, and tries to reduce the memory pressures. x32 hasn't really gone anywhere and is unlikely to at this point; amd64 is the only reasonable

Re: [XFCE] Quel widget a le focus ?

2023-12-15 Thread didier gaumet
Le 15/12/2023 à 19:43, Pierre ESTREm a écrit : Didier, Ca non je connais et je les utilise au sein d'interface graphique tkinter. Mais c'est au niveau de X11 que j'espère trouver mon bonheur (c-à-d à un niveau plus bas). Peut-être une amorce de solution ici:

Re: [XFCE] Quel widget a le focus ?

2023-12-15 Thread Pierre ESTREm
Didier, Ca non je connais et je les utilise au sein d'interface graphique tkinter. Mais c'est au niveau de X11 que j'espère trouver mon bonheur (c-à-d à un niveau plus bas). Merci pierre estrem Le 15/12/2023 à 19:29, didier gaumet a écrit : Tout ça m'étant totalement étranger, Je ne

Re: [XFCE] Quel widget a le focus ?

2023-12-15 Thread didier gaumet
Tout ça m'étant totalement étranger, Je ne sais pas si ça correspond à tes attentes mais j'ai trouvé une page web récente (2022, donc à priori pas obsolète) en français qui importe tkinter dans Python et détaille l'usage de la fonction focus_get() pour déterminer qui a le focus:

Opencv ?

2023-12-15 Thread ptilou
Slt, Je cherche qui a developper des script pour du recadrage d'image pas seulement en 2D, mais en 3D, y a un nom de fonction dans Gimps, et donc je cherche du processing un script avec if et for ? Accessoirement tous bon tutos sur la librairie ? (en français ) Merci -- Ptilou

Re: Copier un système (Debian) sur un disque plus grand.

2023-12-15 Thread ptilou
Le vendredi 15 décembre 2023 à 08:50:04 UTC+1, benoit a écrit : > Bonjour, > Je recherche une méthode sûre et facile et un logiciel libre pour copier un > système (Debian) sur un disque plus grand. > J’ai cru comprendre qu’un clonage avec dd ou Clonezilla, va crée des > partitions de même

Re: [XFCE] Quel widget a le focus ?

2023-12-15 Thread Pierre ESTREm
Bonsoir Didier et le reste du Monde, Merci, c''est déjà une belle piste qu'un module Python existe autour de X11. Je le sentais plutot bon carr Python est très riche en diversité. j'espère qu'à l'instar de tkinter je pourrais connaître (les yeux fermés) quel widget (icone ou autre) a le focus.

Re: The bug

2023-12-15 Thread Kevin Price
Am 15.12.23 um 15:47 schrieb Stefan Monnier: > But that's always true: the GNU/Linux system, like all sufficiently > complex software systems, is chuck full of bugs, many of which can > indeed have disastrous effects if they manifest under the > "right" circumstances. Here are some foreseeable

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing towait for it to respond

2023-12-15 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I've no idea how to start debugging this but I feel like the problem `strace` maybe? Stefan

Re: The bug

2023-12-15 Thread Stefan Monnier
> If so, then IIUC the answer is a resounding "YES, it is safe!". > Safe not to fry your ext4 by Bug#1057843, yes, Stefan. > Safe in general, as originally asked by Rick? > He might be lucky, or maybe less so. But that's always true: the GNU/Linux system, like all sufficiently complex

Re: differences among amd64 and i386

2023-12-15 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 6:20 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 09:54:08PM +, fuf wrote: > > Near a half month ago I bought a comp. made into 2011 year and didn't knew > > which Debian12 to put: i386 or amd64?, chose i386 as thought that old comp. > > didn't take amd64. > >

Re: Copier un système (Debian) sur un disque plus grand.

2023-12-15 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Le 2023-12-15 11:33, benoit a écrit : En effet, il faudra éditer /etc/fstab Donner un label au partition en les créant Aller dans /dev/disk/by-label pour les retrouver Puis ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/ Pour afficher l'UUID et en faire un copier coller à la place des UUID existant dans /etc/fstab

Re: setting IFS to new line doesn't work while searching?

2023-12-15 Thread Nicolas George
Greg Wooledge (12023-12-15): > Equally safe, perhaps. Not safer. I don't know those particular perl > modules -- are they included in a standard Debian system, or does > one need to install optional packages? And then there's a learning > curve for them as well. File::Find is a standard

Re: setting IFS to new line doesn't work while searching?

2023-12-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 02:30:21PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > Greg Wooledge (12023-12-15): > > readarray -d '' fndar < <( > > find "$sdir" ... -printf 'stuff\0' | > > sort -z --otherflags > > ) > It is possible to do it safely in bash plus command-line tools, indeed. >

Re: setting IFS to new line doesn't work while searching?

2023-12-15 Thread Nicolas George
Greg Wooledge (12023-12-15): > On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 01:42:14PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > > Also, note that file names can also contain newlines in general. The > > only robust delimiter is the NUL character. > > True. In order to be 100% safe, the OP's code would need to look > more like

Re: setting IFS to new line doesn't work while searching?

2023-12-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 01:42:14PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > Also, note that file names can also contain newlines in general. The > only robust delimiter is the NUL character. True. In order to be 100% safe, the OP's code would need to look more like this: readarray -d '' fndar < <(

Re: setting IFS to new line doesn't work while searching?

2023-12-15 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 12/15/23, Greg Wooledge wrote: > More to the point, bash has a 'readarray' command which does what you > *actually* want: > > readarray -t fndar < <(find "$sdir" ...) > Yes, that was what I actually needed! lbrtchx

Re: setting IFS to new line doesn't work while searching?

2023-12-15 Thread Nicolas George
Albretch Mueller (12023-12-15): > sdir="$(pwd)" > #fndar=($(IFS=$'\n'; find "$sdir" -type f -printf '%P|%TY-%Tm-%Td > %TI:%TM|%s\n' | sort --version-sort --reverse)) > #fndar=($(IFS='\n'; find "$sdir" -type f -printf '%P|%TY-%Tm-%Td > %TI:%TM|%s\n' | sort --version-sort --reverse)) > fndar=($(find

Re: setting IFS to new line doesn't work while searching?

2023-12-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 12:33:01PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > #fndar=($(IFS=$'\n'; find "$sdir" -type f -printf '%P|%TY-%Tm-%Td > %TI:%TM|%s\n' | sort --version-sort --reverse)) > the array construct ($( ... )) is using the space (between the date > and the time) also to split array

setting IFS to new line doesn't work while searching?

2023-12-15 Thread Albretch Mueller
sdir="$(pwd)" #fndar=($(IFS=$'\n'; find "$sdir" -type f -printf '%P|%TY-%Tm-%Td %TI:%TM|%s\n' | sort --version-sort --reverse)) #fndar=($(IFS='\n'; find "$sdir" -type f -printf '%P|%TY-%Tm-%Td %TI:%TM|%s\n' | sort --version-sort --reverse)) fndar=($(find "$sdir" -type f -printf '%P|%TY-%Tm-%Td

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing towait for it to respond

2023-12-15 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 12:00:00AM -0800, David Christensen wrote: > On 12/14/23 18:36, gene heskett wrote: > > Thunar, yes, but I don't use it, not my cup of tea. […] > It sounds like OpenSCAD and gidislicer have something in common that is > causing the issue, while the other apps do

Re: differences among amd64 and i386

2023-12-15 Thread Andy Smith
On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 09:54:08PM +, fuf wrote: > I don't notice differences among amd64 and i386 but think to pick among > this. Give advice, what better please? i386 (or any other 32-bit x86) Linux should generally not ever be used on any hardware that supports amd64. The main reason for

Re: Copier un système (Debian) sur un disque plus grand.

2023-12-15 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
On 12/15/23 08:48, benoit wrote: Bonjour, Je recherche une méthode sûre et facile et un logiciel libre pour copier un système (Debian) sur un disque plus grand. Je comprends la question de la manière suivante: Vous disposez d'un PC (probablement un ordinateur fixe, pas un portable)

Re: Copier un système (Debian) sur un disque plus grand.

2023-12-15 Thread benoit
Le vendredi 15 décembre 2023 à 10:58, Sébastien NOBILI a écrit : > Bonjour, > > Attention, de plus en plus de références aux partitions se font par UUID > qui vont changer en repartitionnant. Tu auras donc un travail > (probablement > lui aussi un peu long et potentiellement douloureux) de

Re: Copier un système (Debian) sur un disque plus grand.

2023-12-15 Thread ajh-valmer
On Friday 15 December 2023 08:48:52 benoit wrote: > Bonjour, > Je recherche une méthode sûre et facile et un logiciel libre pour > copier un système (Debian) sur un disque plus grand. "rsync" fait ça très bien en root et mode console. clonage 100%. > Le peu d’expérience que j’ai de cette étape

Re: [XFCE] Quel widget a le focus ?

2023-12-15 Thread didier gaumet
Le 15/12/2023 à 05:17, Pierre ESTREm a écrit : Bonjour, En Bash je voudrais récupérer le ID de l'objet (par exemple icone) qui aurait le focus clavier. En Python y aurait-il un module qui saurait manipuler X (comme on le fait avec tkinter) ??? C'est ouf... c'est vrai ! Merci pierre

Re: Copier un système (Debian) sur un disque plus grand.

2023-12-15 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Bonjour, Le 2023-12-15 08:48, benoit a écrit : Le peu d’expérience que j’ai de cette étape avec Gparted, c’est que ça prend des heures et que ça n’a pas toujours fonctionné. Il me semble que le plus simple serait de faire l’inverse : créer la table de partition sur le disque cible avec cfdisk.

Re: Copier un système (Debian) sur un disque plus grand.

2023-12-15 Thread benoit
Le vendredi 15 décembre 2023 à 10:12, benoit a écrit : > Le vendredi 15 décembre 2023 à 09:02, Klaus Becker a écrit > : > >> Salut, >> >> Pour la copie du système, fsarchiver est très bien. Tu peux créer la >> partition de démarrage avec cfdisk. >> >> Klaus > > Merci pour ta réponse, > > Je

Re: Copier un système (Debian) sur un disque plus grand.

2023-12-15 Thread benoit
Le vendredi 15 décembre 2023 à 09:02, Klaus Becker a écrit : > Salut, > > Pour la copie du système, fsarchiver est très bien. Tu peux créer la > partition de démarrage avec cfdisk. > > Klaus Merci pour ta réponse, Je viens de jeter un œil en diagonal sur la doc de fsarchiver, il y a des

Re: Copier un système (Debian) sur un disque plus grand.

2023-12-15 Thread Farget Vincent
Bonjour, Le 15/12/2023 à 08:48, benoit a écrit : Bonjour, Je recherche une méthode sûre et facile et un logiciel libre pour copier un système (Debian) sur un disque plus grand. J’ai cru comprendre qu’un clonage avec dd ou Clonezilla, va crée des partitions de même tailles du disque

Copier un système (Debian) sur un disque plus grand.

2023-12-15 Thread Klaus Becker
Salut, Pour la copie du système, fsarchiver est très bien.  Tu peux créer la partition de démarrage avec cfdisk. Klaus

Re: raid10 is killing me, and applications that aren't willing towait for it to respond

2023-12-15 Thread David Christensen
On 12/14/23 18:36, gene heskett wrote: On 12/14/23 16:36, Anssi Saari wrote: gene heskett writes: It repeats per gui access. Starting a gfx program such as OpenSCAD, or qidislicer from an xfce4 terminal cli, is delayed for this similar but not always identical lag. And reports odd warnings