Re: Renaming the FTP Masters

2021-11-04 Thread Felix Lechner
Hi, On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 2:14 PM Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > I'm at a loss to actually find polite words to describe how off it is, > to do this via a GR. The mildest vote in the U.S. House of Representatives is the naming of a U.S. Post Office. I think it would be such a vote. How can someone

Re: Renaming the FTP Masters

2021-11-04 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 16306 March 1977, Felix Lechner wrote: I would like to rename the FTP Masters team—ideally via a General Resolution. Ideally? Its the worst possible way to go about. I'm at a loss to actually find polite words to describe how off it is, to do this via a GR. Without even ever asking the

Re: Renaming the FTP Masters

2021-11-04 Thread Paul R. Tagliamonte
> While I also agree with Paul that the current name is somewhat dated > technologically, it is not fatally flawed. Therefore, I think we > should leave the naming decision to the FTP masters themselves. This doesn't change anything about this thread or this email, but in the spirit of trying to

Re: Renaming the FTP Masters

2021-11-04 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Timo" == Timo Röhling writes: Timo> I am fine with any name on which the FTP masters and the DPL Timo> can agree, including the current one. I would also happily Timo> ratify their choice via GR if they felt that the whole project Timo> should have a say. What I do not

Re: Renaming the FTP Masters

2021-11-04 Thread Timo Röhling
Hi Felix, * Felix Lechner [2021-11-03 14:27]: I would like to rename the FTP Masters team—ideally via a General Resolution. [...] PROPOSED TEXT In recognizance of the awful history of slavery, the Debian project will rename the "FTP Masters" team. For a long time, the word "master" has been

Re: Renaming the FTP Masters

2021-11-04 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 11/3/21 10:27 PM, Felix Lechner wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to rename the FTP Masters team—ideally via a General Resolution. > > Since the murder of George Floyd, the average fate of Black lives has > received much attention. Even the tech sector picked up the > "master/slave" topic over a

Re: Renaming the FTP Masters

2021-11-04 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
I agree. I also don't know if this is something we can just do with the DPL or not. The name master isn't great, as is ftp. No one has suggested a name yet. If this was my proposal, I'd suggest the debian archive team. Why can't we just change the name without a GR between the ftpteam and DPL?