Re: [libreoffice-design] Experimental new LibreOffice UI

2013-04-13 Thread Wolfgang Keller
So, one item that I'd personally love to see tried with toolbars is displaying floating, highly-contextual toolbars that only appear when an element is selected, Gnome-Notes style [3]. Context menus must be vertical, of course. And if the application menus would be integrated into the context

Re: [libreoffice-design] Experimental new LibreOffice UI

2013-04-11 Thread Stefan Knorr
Sorry, that last mail was not meant to be sent. I am not sure why my mail program did that. Astron. On 11 April 2013 08:58, Stefan Knorr heinzless...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Keith, On Wed, 2013-04-10 at 22:01 -0700, Keith Curtis wrote: I am not a UX person. I emailed this alias because I want to

Re: [libreoffice-design] Experimental new LibreOffice UI

2013-04-11 Thread Keith Curtis
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 2:01 AM, Stefan Knorr heinzless...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, that last mail was not meant to be sent. I am not sure why my mail program did that. Astron. Hi Astron; No problem, I'm happy to respond / clarify anyway. On Wed, 2013-04-10 at 22:01 -0700, Keith Curtis

Re: [libreoffice-design] Experimental new LibreOffice UI

2013-04-10 Thread Keith Curtis
Hi Astron; On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Stefan Knorr heinzless...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Keith, Furthermore, maybe WxWidgets might make sense to one day (slowly) LibreOffice's internal toolkit. VCL is very rich, but in an ideal So first of all, VCL is sadly not too rich – everywhere you

Re: [libreoffice-design] Experimental new LibreOffice UI

2013-04-10 Thread Stefan Knorr
Hi Keith, On Wed, 2013-04-10 at 13:06 -0700, Keith Curtis wrote: Also note that what Paulo has provided is basically a _single_ mockup of a single component, so I somewhat doubt that it is straightforward to implement. I think starting with Writer is a good way to go. Once people like

Re: [libreoffice-design] Experimental new LibreOffice UI

2013-04-10 Thread Michel Renon
Hi Keith, Le 06/04/2013 01:30, Keith Curtis a écrit : Hi all; I've written a proposal for a new experimental UI for LibreOffice Writer: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:KeithCu That proposal is light years away from being a UX design proposal. Really. Just compare it with : -

Re: [libreoffice-design] Experimental new LibreOffice UI

2013-04-10 Thread Rodolfo
What I liked from that sketch is the toolpanels instead of toolbars. Something like what we have on Impress, at right side. What about the toolbars can be docked at a side, and we use a handler to strecht it in order to it become a panel? Regards, Rodolfo 2013/4/10 Keith Curtis

Re: [libreoffice-design] Experimental new LibreOffice UI

2013-04-10 Thread Keith Curtis
Hi; On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Michel Renon michel.re...@free.fr wrote: Hi Keith, Le 06/04/2013 01:30, Keith Curtis a écrit : Hi all; I've written a proposal for a new experimental UI for LibreOffice Writer: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:KeithCu That proposal is light

Re: [libreoffice-design] Experimental new LibreOffice UI

2013-04-08 Thread Keith Curtis
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Samuel Mehrbrodt s.mehrbr...@gmail.com wrote: Am 07.04.2013 20:09, schrieb Keith Curtis: Thanks for the info about PyGObject. I'll add that to the wiki page. However, I wonder how well it works on Mac and Windows compared to WxPython. For Windows there are

Re: [libreoffice-design] Experimental new LibreOffice UI

2013-04-08 Thread Stefan Knorr
Hi Keith, Furthermore, maybe WxWidgets might make sense to one day (slowly) LibreOffice's internal toolkit. VCL is very rich, but in an ideal So first of all, VCL is sadly not too rich – everywhere you see anything more fancy than a button, tab or tick box it is some sort of custom widget.

Re: [libreoffice-design] Experimental new LibreOffice UI

2013-04-07 Thread Keith Curtis
Hi; On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Samuel Mehrbrodt s.mehrbr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Keith, good to see some movement on the UI. There's already a funding campaign for a new UI in LibreOffice: http://www.freedomsponsors.org/core/issue/175/new-libreoffice-ui That is great to see as it can

Re: [libreoffice-design] Experimental new LibreOffice UI

2013-04-07 Thread Keith Curtis
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net wrote: I've written a proposal for a new experimental UI for LibreOffice Writer: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:KeithCu *sigh* Anyone can see at the very first glance that the one who designed that doesn't have the

Re: [libreoffice-design] Experimental new LibreOffice UI

2013-04-07 Thread Samuel Mehrbrodt
Am 07.04.2013 20:09, schrieb Keith Curtis: Thanks for the info about PyGObject. I'll add that to the wiki page. However, I wonder how well it works on Mac and Windows compared to WxPython. For Windows there are binaries compiled regularly here: http://code.google.com/p/osspack32/downloads/list

Re: [libreoffice-design] Experimental new LibreOffice UI

2013-04-07 Thread Stefan Knorr
Hi Wolfgang, On Sun, 2013-04-07 at 20:07 +0200, Wolfgang Keller wrote: *sigh* *sigh* Please find an appropriate tone and be upfront about improvement suggestions instead of trying to make all others look dumb. Astron. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org

[libreoffice-design] Experimental new LibreOffice UI

2013-04-05 Thread Keith Curtis
Hi all; I've written a proposal for a new experimental UI for LibreOffice Writer: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:KeithCu In a few weeks Matúš Kukan will have an empty Python prototype ready to be filled in. After that, it becomes a question of what it should look like. The bitmap I