[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
** No longer affects: gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu Lucid) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 Title: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/432814/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
** Changed in: gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu Lucid) Assignee: Alberto Milone (albertomilone) = (unassigned) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 Title: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/432814/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
Today some updates to Lubuntu 12.04 change the behaviour to double tap = right click. I consider that a bug and would like to see it fixed. I have a right button my me EeePC. synclient TapButton3=3 TapButton2=2 fixes it temporarily. With every Fedora and Ubuntu release these problems crop up, I guess it is because some Gnome devs think the Mac way of doing things is always right. It is really annoying. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 Title: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/432814/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
Ok, figured it out, on Oneiric Unity uses the new gnome-settings-daemon, and to configure the touchpad post g-s-d, we should use this: http://who-t.blogspot.com/2011/03/custom-input-device-configuration- in.html -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 Title: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/432814/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu Lucid) Status: New = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 Title: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/432814/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
Any news on how to handle this on Oneiric? Neither yurivkhan's or o.shybystyi's PPAs have been updated to 11.10 (and naturally, there is still no way to configure this on Gnome itself). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 Title: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/432814/+subscriptions -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
Oleksandr Shybystyi, that doesn't work for gnome3? That's a shame. I think I'm just going to give OpenSuse a try, I've had it with all those terribly easy to solve bugs in Ubuntu that are open for more than a year. On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 8:02 AM, Oleksandr Shybystyi oleksandr.shybys...@gmail.com wrote: Those using natty with Unity(gnome 2), could join my PPA https://launchpad.net/~o.shybystyi/+archive/gnome-settings-daemon-nattyhttps://launchpad.net/%7Eo.shybystyi/+archive/gnome-settings-daemon-natty . -- You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of a duplicate bug (646207). https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 Title: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty Status in Gnome Settings Daemon: Invalid Status in NULL Project: Invalid Status in “gnome-settings-daemon” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “xserver-xorg-input-synaptics” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “gnome-settings-daemon” source package in Lucid: New Status in “xserver-xorg-input-synaptics” source package in Lucid: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics LSB version = karmic Package version = 1.1.2-1ubuntu5 Expected behaviour: Tap the touchpad with 2 fingers simultaneously to generate middle-click event. Tap with 3 fingers for right-click event. Observed behaviour: A 2-finger tap generates a right-click event and a 3-finger tap generates a middle-click event. Looking at the changelog for 1.1.2-1ubuntu1 I see this: 105_correct_multifinger_click.patch: Swap the right/middle clicks generated by multi-finger tapping. This patch is then reverted in 1.1.2-1ubuntu2: 105_correct_multifinger_click.patch: Drop patch as it breaks the expected behavior for multitouch clicking (LP: #320585). However, I still experience the behaviour introduced in -1ubuntu1. Hopefully I can help get the expected behaviour back in time for karmic's release. ProblemType: Bug Architecture: i386 CheckboxSubmission: d90fdc639d79341a7dfe13ba74210bc8 CheckboxSystem: 018dd987ae1f42580fa9d31146e40261 Date: Sat Sep 19 00:29:42 2009 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 9.10 MachineType: Packard Bell BV EasyNote MB85 NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia Package: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics 1.1.2-1ubuntu5 ProcCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-10-generic root=UUID=25b243bb-087e-436e-81ca-bee20d03157b ro quiet splash ProcEnviron: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.31-10.34-generic RelatedPackageVersions: xserver-xorg 1:7.4+3ubuntu5 libgl1-mesa-glx 7.6.0~git20090817.7c422387-0ubuntu5 libdrm2 2.4.13-1ubuntu1 xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.8.1-1ubuntu1 xserver-xorg-video-ati 1:6.12.99+git20090825.fc74e119-0ubuntu1 SourcePackage: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics Uname: Linux 2.6.31-10-generic i686 dmi.bios.date: 04/07/2008 dmi.bios.vendor: Phoenix Technologies LTD dmi.bios.version: PB2A4A04 dmi.board.name: PB2A dmi.board.vendor: Packard Bell BV dmi.board.version: Not Applicable dmi.chassis.asset.tag: No Asset Tag dmi.chassis.type: 1 dmi.chassis.vendor: Packard Bell BV dmi.chassis.version: N/A dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnPhoenixTechnologiesLTD:bvrPB2A4A04:bd04/07/2008:svnPackardBellBV:pnEasyNoteMB85:pvrPC03Q00101:rvnPackardBellBV:rnPB2A:rvrNotApplicable:cvnPackardBellBV:ct1:cvrN/A: dmi.product.name: EasyNote MB85 dmi.product.version: PC03Q00101 dmi.sys.vendor: Packard Bell BV fglrx: Not loaded system: distro: Ubuntu architecture: i686kernel: 2.6.31-10-generic To unsubscribe from this bug, go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/432814/+subscribe -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 Title: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
2011/05/05 mcDavid wrote: Oleksandr Shybystyi, that doesn't work for gnome3? That's a shame. I think I'm just going to give OpenSuse a try, I've had it with all those terribly easy to solve bugs in Ubuntu that are open for more than a year. As much as I am familiar Unity doesn't work on gnome 3. If you need fix for this bug for gnome 3 of for previous versions of Ubuntu, read description of my PPA: f you need built of fixed package for Natty with Gnome 3 or previous versions of Ubuntu - visit https://launchpad.net/~yurivkhan -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 Title: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
There must have been a misunderstanding here. I’m not going to support my patches on GNOME 3. In fact, they are not needed there, as there is the hook framework. When time allows, I will update my PPA for Natty, but only because Natty was released with GNOME 2. (And I understand them — GNOME 3 is horrible at the moment.) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 Title: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
Those using natty with Unity(gnome 2), could join my PPA https://launchpad.net/~o.shybystyi/+archive/gnome-settings-daemon-natty. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 Title: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
On 04/26/2011 01:07 AM, palanutsa wrote: P.P.S. So, correct me if I'm wrong, current solution to this problem is to use scripts that run synclient (or xinput) at startup and resume/suspend(don't actually know how to implement that one) or use Yuri Khans' builds (and to have headache every time official package is updated). I, for one, pinned g-s-d to Yuri's PPA, which means I won't have problems when a new release comes along and he didn't have time to update iacobs@shire:~$ cat /etc/apt/preferences.d/gsd-yuri Package: gnome-settings-daemon Pin: release o=LP-PPA-yurivkhan-proposed Pin-Priority: 1100 P. P. P. S. I have tried modify xorg configs and udev rules - both unsuccesfully. this is a (big) part of the problem, g-s-d hardcodes a specific behaviour and doesn't care about things configured in other places; it will even reset that behaviour when you add / remove a mouse, for instance; rantwhile there were hints of this before, lately it became obvious that Gnome devs think all their users are idiots and and the only way to use one's computer should be what their _designers_ came up with - see Gnome 3 power manager settings, minimize button discussions/rant -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 Title: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
Of course implementing a setting in gnome-mouse-touchpad would be desirable and I don't understand why they don't. KDE has a nice GUI configuration tab. Anyway, a quick workout in Ubuntu Natty, working in squeeze as well, is to add a tiny script in autostart, working per user: synclient TabButton2=2 synclient TabButton2=2 I seem to recall it has been already mention here and elsewhere. BTW Gnome might have their good reasons, but I _do_ use two finger tapping a lot and find three finger usage a bit awkward. and less precise. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 Title: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
Sorry it should have been: synclient TabButton2=2 synclient TabButton3=3 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 Title: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
About Yuri Khan comment. Yet I haven't found any documentation about writing such hooks. In fact, those innovations don't allow using any other legacy methods for changing tapbuttons behaviour (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=518502). P. S. there is very few people posting about this problem on forums. Am I searching wrong requests or this bug really bothers not so much people? e.g. Haven't found any mention (except 79 comment) that this bug still present in natty. P.P.S. So, correct me if I'm wrong, current solution to this problem is to use scripts that run synclient (or xinput) at startup and resume/suspend(don't actually know how to implement that one) or use Yuri Khans' builds (and to have headache every time official package is updated). P. P. P. S. I have tried modify xorg configs and udev rules - both unsuccesfully. ** Bug watch added: Red Hat Bugzilla #518502 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=518502 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 Title: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
** Changed in: gnome-settings-daemon Status: New = Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 Title: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
Lucid was almost a year ago. Shouldn't this be an open bug against Maverick (stable) or even Natty (impending LTS release)? Or have we blown those deadlines, and now we have to shoot for 11.10? This is still a daily frustration for me. Getting all three fingers to land at the same time for my second-most-used-click is nigh impossible. In modern releases, not even the old synclient hack works anymore. We're left out in the cold. I love Ubuntu, which is why it pains me to see a major UI bug that affects UX on a minute-to-minute basis take more than 1.5 years to resolve. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 Title: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
In GNOME, they decided that it is more appropriate to provide a hook that will run a user-customizable script when an input device is added or removed. The xinput or synclient invocations shown above can be added to this hook. So, for all intents and purposes, this bug can be considered “Fix Committed”. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 Title: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
It sounds like the hook script feature provides a framework for a fix, but not an actual fix for this bug. Has 1/2/3 behavior been restored? I guess I'm looking for a legitimate bugfix or a declaration from the Ubuntu maintainers that 1/3/2 (left/right/middle) is the new Ubuntu multitouch standard. If they pick 1/3/2 as the new standard, we can either start lobbying for change, lobbying the GNOME maintainers for a better mouse settings GUI, or build out a separate mouse behavior customization tool. How do I mark this bug as Needs Closure? =) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 Title: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
@Yuri: (lucid proposed) PPA package is older than g-s-d again @whoever maintains the Ubuntu package: frankly I find this ridiculous, this bug has been here for more than a year, there is a fix which works fine (I have been using it since February, so did others) and we have seen 2 releases already (ok, first time there was a feature freeze, but the second time? with a working patch that probably needed minimal changes?) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 Title: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
@David Siegel I use the middle-click equally or even more often than the right-click, that's because of Firefox. Besides that, I have a physical button for right-click, so the touchpad gesture is really needed. @Yuri Khan Impressive work, you have done. -- Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
** Project changed: hundredpapercuts = null -- Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
** Changed in: gnome-settings-daemon Importance: Unknown = Medium -- Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
I’m afraid not, as whenever I happen to have enough free time to work on this patch, both GNOME and Ubuntu turn out to be in feature freeze, and extended configurability counts as a feature. However, I will produce PPA builds for Maverick as soon as I get around to installing the alpha and will maintain them; also, as soon as GNOME unfreezes (which should be late September) I will attempt to get this accepted upstream. -- Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
Thanks for the PPA. It let me fix GNOME's/Ubuntu's bad/idiosyncratic touchpad defaults. I couldn't understand why in the world double-tapping was resulting in a right-click when I started using Ubuntu on my netbook. It's a real pain. Hopefully this will be fixed in 10.10. -- Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
Because of this change in behavior, the usability of my eeepc is severely degraded. On this netbook, it is nearly impossible to click both hardware buttons at once because of how they were designed, so I relied heavily on the two-finger tapping method. Now that is gone. Since the touch-pad is pretty small, the already difficult three-finger maneuver becomes impossible. Thus, having two-finger tapping as middle click is necessary. Now I'm left without a sane middle click option, no more highlight-paste buffer, no more easy opening of tabs in firefox, etc. This switch in behavior seems unfounded to me. I'm dubious as to whether right click really is more frequently used than middle click for the majority of people; think of all the web browsing and copy-pasting that goes on. At the very least, there should be an easy way to change this behavior from the Ubuntu options by default instead of relying on hacks to change it. Sometimes Ubuntu is really intuitive and easy to use... and other times it takes hours to figure out how to change touch-pad options. -- Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
Is still the same in Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid. ** Changed in: gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu Lucid) Status: Fix Released = New -- Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
Guys, I really don't understand. 72 posts about exchanging 2 - 3 and 3 - 2. Is it really so hard? There are a lot of other important things that we can/should do. Why can't we just exchange 2 - 3 back and close the issue? -- Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
Bug confirmed in the Netbook Remix 10.04 (Lucid) release. Taps are still 1-2-3 instead of 1-3-2, and I don't see any configuration options in the Mouse preferences panel to change it. Two-finger scroll works like a scroll wheel, which clicks as mouse3 on most mice. A two-finger tap physically mirrors a chording click on a regular 2-button mouse/trackball/trackpad/trackpoint, which I expect to produce a mouse3 click as it has for more than a decade now. Up until a year ago, Ubuntu standardized on mouse3. All of our two-finger conventions point to mouse3. 1-2-3 makes the user experience inconsistent, too. Two fingers on the pad gives me mouse2, while two fingers on the buttons gives me mouse3? I didn't think we needed to discuss *whether* 1-3-2 was a valid decision, just how to bring it back. 1-2-3 should be a supported user customization, not a default. -- Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
** Changed in: gnome-settings-daemon Status: Unknown = New -- Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
I've reverted my changes to the gnome-settings-daemon and I did the same with synaptics driver default settings. Now we're more compliant with upstream's default settings (both Gnome and synaptics use 1 3 2 instead of 1 2 3). I definitely agree that a we need an easy way to make this configurable but it's too late to make such changes in Lucid. Hopefully I'll have enough time to deal with this in Maverick. -- Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
@Evgeny Please file a new bug report about the need of an easy way to change the touchpad values and feel free to assign it to me. -- Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
I don't think tree-finger is that difficult: it just requires a bit to get used to. Also I do use two-finger tap quite a lot, so... I'm biased. 1-2-3 for me! From reading around it seems to me that the majority would like that 123. Also, if it can be of any help, kubuntu lucid _has_ the ability to change setting and it's probably worth a visit. -- Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
** Summary changed: - Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty + Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty -- Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
It's very difficult to find a really good title for a bug. In short: We don't use the buttons around a touch-pad. If we want to perform a click, we tap on the pad. The standard configuration until jaunty was, that tapping with two fingers performs a mouse3 click. Unfortunately this changed in karmic and lucid. Now we have to use three fingers in order to perform a mouse3 click, which can't be done by normal humans. I use these multi-touch capabilities very often and it would be great if lucid restores the old behavior. My use cases: * Scroll through websites by using two finger scrolling. * Click at items on the screen by using single-finger tapping. (mouse1) * Open links on websites in new tabs of Firefox by using two-finger tapping. (mouse3) * Open the context menu of an item by tapping on the right lower corner of the touch-pad with one finger. (mouse2) -- Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
I added 'touchpad' to the title, hope it's clearer ;) -- Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
ok, thanks for the new comments, that seems to make some extra sense now, I never used n-finger clicks on the pad there ;-) Does anybody what other OS systems are doing for middle click and right click emulation? We should probably use something coherent with what users are used to -- Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
What about making that configurable? I think there is enough place in Touchpanel tab under Mouse preferences. If that can be configured in gconf-editor (as Yuri showed) it should not be that difficult to add that option. -- Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
On 04/14/2010 02:48 PM, DarkV wrote: What about making that configurable? I think there is enough place in Touchpanel tab under Mouse preferences. If that can be configured in gconf-editor (as Yuri showed) it should not be that difficult to add that option. there are enough configuration paths besides Gnome: udev policy, xorg.conf, even a sesion startup script to run synclient TapButton2=2 TapButton3=3... problem is, gnome-settings-daemon walks all over that and loads its hardcoded configuration, and then resets whatever you configured manually using synclient every time an input device is added/removed. The most logical step would be to make gnome leave the predefined configuration alone; if one knows how to change that, it's most likely someone who knows what they're doing (or has received copy'n paste advice from someone who knpws what they're doing). my 0.02€ -- Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
As far as I'm concerned, we have some behaviour that a lot of users don't like, we have a patch to configure the behaviour the way anybody likes (and the patch is the debian patch, so it can be used with no additional issues), the patch is working and — please point our if I'm mistaken here — doesn't break anything being applied. The most sensible thing to do right now is to include this patch in Ubuntu version of gnome-settings-daemon and let people, not g-s-d default, deside for themselves. Whether the current default configuration is good for default or not is the whole other story, after all, Ubuntu is becoming known for controversial default settings — most users don't care about defaults as long as they can tweak things to they liking. As of now, the issue in question is untweakable. We have a patch to make it tweakable. Why on the Planet of Earth can't we just have this patch included and discussion closed?! -- Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
it's late in the lucid cycle for new feature now but we should consider that for next cycle for sure yes -- Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
@Sebastien Bacher Windows defaults: - two finger tap, three finger tap: no action (typical version of Synaptics drivers doesn't make use of these, however Synaptics Gestures Suite - if provided by the laptop manufacturer - may add support for three finger tap), - one finger scrolling on side of the touchpad. MacOS defaults: - I believe that it can be configured so that two finger tap acts as right click, but then again Mac mice haven't got a right button anyway, - two finger scrolling. Linux defaults *for years* before Karmic: - two finger tap as middle click, three finger tap as right click, - one finger scrolling on side of the touchpad, - I noticed that two finger scrolling is recently on by default, however it is sometimes hard to properly distinguish between two finger tap and two finger scroll, so I chose to disable scrolling. -- Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
To sum things up: the problem (actually a matter of taste) affects gnome-settings-daemon as the synaptics driver already has the desired behaviour (which is overridden by the former). -- Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
This bug was fixed in the package gnome-settings-daemon - 2.30.0-0ubuntu4 --- gnome-settings-daemon (2.30.0-0ubuntu4) lucid; urgency=low * Be compliant with the settings in the synaptics driver as regards performing middle and right taps with multiple fingers (LP: #432814). -- Alberto Milone alberto.mil...@canonical.com Wed, 14 Apr 2010 16:22:46 +0200 ** Changed in: gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu Lucid) Status: Triaged = Fix Released -- Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
Fantastic news. Is this automatically going to be included in lucid, or do we need to file a request so it makes it in for the RC? Just checked the release schedule for lucid and final freeze is tomorrow (15 Apr) so we need to move quickly. -- Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
Sebastien, I definitely see your point there, but let me observe that the possibility to tweak touchpad behaviour this way is not a new feature, it's a very old feature broken by the new g-s-d since in Karmic and Lucid. And it's definitely not late to fix bugs, especially regression bugs. Alberto, thanks for the decision and your time and effort in fixing this. @Everybody: Is it a sound idea to open a new bug (with wishlist priority, for sure) to include the patches Yuri has provided, or do we from now on stick with setting up the driver and don't let g-s-d interfere? -- Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/gnome-settings-daemon -- Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
I'm sorry for those of you who don't want to change years of muscle memory, but right-click is more common that middle click and should have the easier gesture; 2-tap for right-click, 3-tap for middle-click. If you are a heavy middle-click user, you should certainly change the settings on your computer to assign the easier gesture to meet your needs, but 2-tap should default to right-click. -- Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
David, please consider the following: nearly all touchpads have hardware buttons for right-click. Nearly none of them has a hardware button for middle-click. It takes an unhuman skill to perform a 3-finger tap, so with 2-finger tap assigned to right-button, the only usable way to perform a middle click is to plug in a mouse. Middle clicks are of great use in Linux (clipboard insertion to name one of the essential things), so having no way to do them is a bad bad choise. Anyway, that's not what the bug was about. The bug was about the fact that there was no way to change the default behaviour at all. Now there is a way (or will be, as soon as Alberto's upload builds), and that's the fix. What the default setting should be is another topic altogether. -- Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
@David I have no strong opinion on this as I don't use multi tap actions and I consider this issue a matter of taste. If we decide to revert the change I guess we should revert this in the synaptics driver too so that the touchpad behaviour doesn't change after you enter the gnome session (i.e. when the gnome-settings-daemon is launched). -- Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
@Evgeny I only changed the default values as, at this point in the release cycle, it's a little late to include Yuri's patch, I guess -- Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
@Alberto So do we need another bugreport to actually reflect the impossibility of settings change (as in Yuri's patch) and deem this bug here fixed with the changes you've provided? The fix you've supplied technically fixes this bug (judging by it's description), but not the linked gnome-bugs bug (and that was fixed by Yuri's patch). -- Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
Re: [Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
@Evgeny, oops, sorry if I read the bug incorrectly! If 3-tap truly takes takes an unhuman skill to perform, then it shouldn't be assigned any gesture. Yes, middle-click is a great and venerable feature that I sometimes use, and that many people commenting on this bug find indispensable. But more people use right-click than middle-click, and many new laptops are dropping physical buttons altogether (especially netbooks). I am not referring only to Macs, but I'd still wager that the number of users running Ubuntu on Apple laptops, where right-click is performed with 2-tap, has already exceeded the number of Ubuntu users who use 2-tap for middle-click. -- Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
Which really means we need an option to be available for user. Since this bug will be marked as fixed after Alberto's upload, and the issue with inability to tweak this setting persists, I've opened a new bugreport #563276 about exactly this matter. I'll be thankful for Yuri and Alberto if they subscribe to it and help make sure Yuri's patch lands at least in Maverick, because otherwise this won't be fixed until Gnome 3 is released, and that can take long time. -- Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
[Bug 432814] Re: Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty
I've found strange behaviour after using Yuri's path: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNvnvAcpbQc Settings are just ignored. And thats repeatable. If I reboot my settings are back (untill I connect external mouse again). -- Touchpad: Action for middle and right click is reversed since jaunty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/432814 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu. -- desktop-bugs mailing list desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/desktop-bugs
