答复: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

Hi Luke, Apache Kylin is a hero project to me and many Chinese developers. In my humble opinion "Elite" is not just about efforts and achievements, but also capabilities, including project management and communication skills, esp. using English. Anyhow, choosing proper English wording to avoid

答复: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

I can help with these tasks since we, at KAIYUANSHE, have done the similar to bring the great OSS governance and licensing content and application from OSS-Watch in U.K. to our website by our professional translators with Ross' guidance. One question, can we crowd-source the tasks to the OSS

Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 2:16 AM, Lei Chang wrote: > There are about 5 million college graduates each year in China, and i think > there is > a great potential to increase the number of contributors from Apache > community in China. Speaking of which: do you know what's

RE: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

True that any channel can be used for dissemination BUT it cannot use the apache brand unless managed by Apache itself. In the of announcements etc that management will happen through our Marketing team. Though I would suggest this list for development of the ideas etc. Ted, you already know

Re: 答复: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

One more important thing I would like to emphasize here is there are many people are consulting me, our members, other ASF members in China about how to not only contribute code but also bring some projects to ASF. That's I would like to say more localization content, events, meetups will help a

答复: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

Understood. Ted 发件人: Ted Dunning 发送时间: ‎2015/‎11/‎21 22:06 收件人: dev@community.apache.org 主题: Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 9:53 PM,

Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

Hi Ted L, I don't think "elites" is good idea here:) we just work very hard to learn the Apache Way, to engage world wide community and develop our project for people really need. Many efforts have been spent in spare time from our committers with their passion and willing to contribution, and

RE: 答复: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

Exactly, it's more than just content translation. Ted -Original Message- From: Luke Han [mailto:luke...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 10:18 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: 答复: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community One more

Re: Apache on ThoughtWorks Tech Radar

Actually, the first time Kylin has been on this radar is in May: https://assets.thoughtworks.com/assets/technology-radar-may-2015-en.pdf But I'm not sure is there any changes after that and bring back again. Anyway, it's great news for both of us:) Best Regards! - Luke Han

Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

Ted, My further comments are in-line. Your explanation is helping understand what your goals are. On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Ted Liu wrote: > Hi Ted, Yes, we want to establish a bridge or a group (if the idea of > "China Community" seemed to be intimidating or

RE: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

My apologies if misunderstood from Ted Dunning's earlier comment: " I was a mentor on kylin and worried about English being a problem for contribution. The real problem is that apache is partially defined by the use of English to allow as wide a participation as possible." I trust Luke and his

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All, In this month's posting of their tech radar, three new Apache technologies focused on Big Data were added - Kylin, Mesos and Spark. This is a great accomplishment to all, and I'm wondering if there's someway of getting the word out about it? You can take a look at

RE: 答复: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

Incubation is one area where I think we can do more than just localize content. I think mentors who are at least aware of Chinese culture are needed. We, ComDev, should be a good place to help b build those mentoring teams. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Luke

RE: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

Thank Niclas and Hervé, It is excited to see the great ideas to start with. If needed, we can help crowdsource for contributions in China and it is very likely to excite and attract many talented young people to contribute. Other than the great content, email list, webpage, etc., we can also

Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

>>I'm so glad to hear that you were the mentor of Apache Kylin incubation project and trust that you were also >>aware of the frustrations from both side due to language issues I don't this is true...Language is a little bit challenge as Ted Dunning and I have discussed in London and San Jose

Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 9:53 PM, Ted Liu wrote: > p.s. The reason why a Wechat public account is a big plus because it is > used by 500M Wechat chatters on daily basis to acquire/learn information. > This is a very effective China-specific scenario. > Note that you can use

Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

That was my reaction. A dev-cn@community.apache. org could be a useful discussion vehicle to engage prospects and help with facilitating that engagement. It wouldn't look all that much different than the usual English Q here on dev@c a o. Expecting an interested contributor to rely solely on

Re: 答复: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

Think so too. Incubation is a good area that will motivate more people to contribute to Apache. There are a lot of open source projects from china started on github, and some are very interesting, but they don't know how to make it an Apache project. And I often get a lot questions around how

RE: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

Got it. Will work with Sally for it. Ted -Original Message- From: Ross Gardler [mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com] Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 1:20 AM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: RE: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community True that any

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答复: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

Hi Roman, As far as I know of, GSoC had been organized by CSDN, one of the largest IT online media in China and which is also one of the core founding members of KAIYUANSHE. But due to resource issue, it stopped doing so. I'm not sure what will be next to GSoC but can ask around. Ted

RE: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

Localized content is a great suggestion. -Original Message- From: Hervé BOUTEMY [mailto:herve.bout...@free.fr] Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 2:58 AM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community I like the idea of

Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

Ross, How do you square opposition to a separate china org with the irreconcilable needs to maintain English as the language of apache with the need to allow non-English speaking Chinese speakers to participate? I can't. To the extent that it is possible, I encourage English capable people

RE: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

Yes, agreed. We can help motivate people, maybe crowdsourcing, here to help translate. But need to consider what contents and a streamline user experience. Ted -Original Message- From: Ross Gardler [mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com] Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 7:00 PM To:

Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

+1 for a formal community project in China. There are some experiences I can share when some apache committers in China are developing the community for Apache HAWQ (in incubation). A wechat group was created, and there are many people who are very active at ask questions and contributing ideas.

Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

I like the idea of doing something to better engage with China or India or "country of your choice" people interested in Open Source but not able currently because of language and cultural barriers for masses But when I read "forming the Apache China Community", I read forming something

RE: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

In fact,remove me from Apache mailing lists immidately On Nov 21, 2015 5:37 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: I'm opposed to a separate Apache org, our even an apache project. Not opposed to a china specific org of its own. In fact I helped create KAIYUANSHE that Ted mentions

RE: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

"The more challenging part is the culture differences where the sense of community, governance, contribution and the Apache Way are still at infant stage in China." I agree. This was my conclusion when you kindly facilitated my trip to China earlier this year. It is that trip that motivated me

Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

thinking more about it Imagine: - a few localized pages in community.apache.org about tooling, culture and so on + mailing list to interact - as a first step, previous localized team could provide a little localized page to each classical TLP (managed primarily in english) to explain the

RE: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

Our initiative wants/desires to be inside of ASF as close as possible and to avoid any trademark violation. If it is a no-go, I guess the volunteer group here will still do the right things to help enable and motivate developers and projects, with or without ASF’s trademark/banner. Ted

RE: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

Lei, Thanks. Ted -Original Message- From: Lei Chang [mailto:chang.lei...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 6:17 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Cc: nic...@hedhman.org Subject: Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community +1 for a formal community

RE: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

Why do those pioneers need a place outside of the ASF to do that? If they do need a place outside the ASF why does it need an Apache logo on it? -Original Message- From: Lei Chang [mailto:chang.lei...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 2:17 AM To: dev@community.apache.org Cc:

RE: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

I'm opposed to a separate Apache org, our even an apache project. Not opposed to a china specific org of its own. In fact I helped create KAIYUANSHE that Ted mentions in his original mail and up continue to help that community in the ways I can (I'm also linguistically challenged). As more