Re: ALC, and who can speak on behalf of Apache

I've only been partially following, and I hear and respect the desire for "quality control", but IMO, people talk about Apache all of the time in other events. For example, when Flex joined the incubator in January 2012, there was a Flex user conference shortly after in April 2012. I spoke

Re: ALC, and who can speak on behalf of Apache

And that's why I suggested required disclaimers. Big events have disclaimers. That way, Apache is not endorsing their message as 100% accurate on behalf of the foundation, just their attempt to get the message out. Sounds like Rich will make sure there is some ASF-experienced people

Re: ALC, and who can speak on behalf of Apache

From the peanut gallery: IMO, without a formal training/certification program, what even an ASF Member understands about the Apache Way, not to mention committers who are not members, is up for grabs. It is essentially the party game "telephone" where one person says something to another

Re: Introducing lists based on the overall project categories?

Hi Bertrand, Your link took me to a post about splitting lists because some list is busy, but AIUI, this proposal for iot@ is to communicate between related projects. Does the ASF have an example of a cross-project list that failed? Thanks, -Alex On 6/7/19, 4:34 AM, "Bertrand Delacretaz"

Re: [Discuss] Attributing contributions to commercial vendors investing in projects

code are already in NOTICE files. Please educate me. Thanks, -Alex On 4/19/19, 6:15 AM, "Sam Ruby" wrote: On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 8:03 AM Jim Jagielski wrote: > > > On Apr 19, 2019, at 1:06 AM, Alex Harui mailto:aha...@adobe.com.INVALID>> wrote: &

Re: [Discuss] Attributing contributions to commercial vendors investing in projects

From the peanut gallery: IMO, big corporations have enough money to get their names out there and influence projects if they want to. So, it might be the best use of time to find ways to limit the impact on the projects instead of trying to prevent them from using their names. The ASF tends

Re: on "meritocracy"

On 3/22/19, 12:04 AM, "Roman Shaposhnik" wrote: It would be very important to come up with a replacement that is as effective as what we're trying to replace. Frankly, I don't know a single candidate. Does anyone? Do-ocracy - I think we've used this word before to

Re: Why are large code drops damaging to a community?

before during or after to ensure the success of httpd? > > Best Regards, > Myrle > > On Sat 20. Oct 2018 at 00:28 Jim Jagielski wrote: >> >> I would say that, in general, large code drops are more a *symptom* of a problem, rather than a problem, in

Re: Why are large code drops damaging to a community?

IMO, the issue isn't about large code drops. Some will be ok. The issue is about significant collaboration off-list about anything, not just code. My 2 cents, -Alex On 10/19/18, 1:32 PM, "James Dailey" wrote: +1 on this civil discourse. I would like to offer that sometimes

reporter.a.o Board Report Due Dates

Hi ComDev, Our new PMC chair was confused by reporter.a.o saying that our board report is due on 6/20.  I suppose technically it is, but maybe some language should be added to say that reports should/must be filed a week earlier? Thoughts? -Alex

Re: The Apache Software Foundation Community Sponsorship Trade with DeveloperWeek

Just to throw a different opinion out there, I wouldn't mind reading and deleting as many as a dozen marketing-type emails per year if it got the ASF's name out in front of people that don't already know about us, or made the ASF appear like a friendly, collegial, foundation. We might require

Re: Contribute as a company

On 4/20/17, 10:14 AM, "William Li" wrote: >Thanks Ted. No worries on the commitment side. Either way I'd start >learning and contributing. > >If there are ways to check contributions by companies, it could be a >win-win for both the individuals and the companies

Re: Results: ASF Committer Diversity Survey

On 12/21/16, 12:10 PM, "William A Rowe Jr" <wr...@rowe-clan.net> wrote: >On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote: > >> >> On 12/21/16, 11:05 AM, "Pierre Smits" <pierre.sm...@gmail.com> wrote: >> &

Re: Results: ASF Committer Diversity Survey

p://www.orrtiz.com> >OFBiz based solutions & services > >OFBiz Extensions Marketplace >http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ > >On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 6:56 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On 12/21/16, 9:01 AM, "Rich Bowen" <

Re: Results: ASF Committer Diversity Survey

On 12/21/16, 9:01 AM, "Rich Bowen" wrote: > > >On 12/21/2016 08:32 AM, A. Soroka wrote: >> Not to say that this isn't a good first step, but that is definitely >>not going to capture a lot of important engagement. At Apache Jena we >>recently elected an excellent committer

Re: Results: ASF Committer Diversity Survey

On 12/20/16, 6:47 PM, "Matthew Sacks" wrote: >Alex, what does this have anything to do with diversity? I (and maybe others) want to eliminate the argument that the response rate was too low to be used to draw conclusions. See [1]. Thinking about this more, we might

Re: Results: ASF Committer Diversity Survey

On 12/20/16, 8:11 AM, "Rich Bowen" wrote: > > >On 12/19/2016 08:36 AM, Sharan F wrote: >> Hello Everyone >> >> A big thank you to everyone that has helped or participated in getting >> the Committer Diversity Survey out, and also to all the committers that >> responded to

Re: What's the plan? What are we here for?

On 12/6/16, 3:36 AM, "Rich Bowen" wrote: >On Dec 6, 2016 6:10 AM, "Bertrand Delacretaz" >wrote: > >I hope we agree on that and I think we do, I'm just slightly worried >that your initiative might be interpreted in the wrong way. > >I am confident

Re: Does GSoC help develop communities?

IMO, rather than gathering statistics, it would be better to gather stories, tips and advice. It doesn't seem to me that statistics would be helpful, folks just need to know that it can have great benefits or great cost and some ideas of the reasons why. Even if it hasn't been helpful in the

Re: Encouraging Diversity - Update 6

On 11/15/16, 9:03 AM, "Patricia Shanahan" wrote: >That should be "example of undesirable behavior". One could obviously >write a rule that prohibits using words with more than three syllables >in e-mails. Personally, I don't think "rules", "standards" and "policies" are in play

Re: Distributing ASF Material

On 8/17/16, 1:00 AM, "Sharan Foga" wrote: >Hi > >It sounds like there are mixed feelings about allowing this so I will >respond back to them saying that we'd prefer that they don't distribute >any ASF material. From the peanut gallery: HW seems to be a big sponsor of

Re: Encouraging More Women to Participate on Apache Projects?

On 5/23/16, 12:18 PM, "tamaonakah...@gmail.com" wrote: Snip... > Members who receive a great deal of generosity during their growth are >likely to pay it forward. I found your entire email (most of which I snipped) to be very informative. Thank you for taking the time

Re: Encouraging More Women to Participate on Apache Projects?

Also, not specific to software: http://leanin.org HTH, -Alex On 5/23/16, 6:36 AM, "Patricia Shanahan" wrote: >Systers, http://anitaborg.org/get-involved/systers/ > >More generally, the Wikipedia article on "Women in Computing", >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_computing,

Re: Base for presentation

On 5/21/16, 4:29 PM, "Patricia Shanahan" wrote: >Good points. Unfortunately, the projects in which I'm currently active >are not very beginner-friendly. > >Could people suggest a few projects that would benefit from, and be able >to use, relatively inexperienced programmers right

Re: Encouraging More Women to Participate on Apache Projects?

On 5/20/16, 5:26 AM, "Sharan Foga" wrote: >>>Hi All >>> >>> I'm interested in finding out how we could encourage more women to >>> participate on Apache projects. It's a discussion topic that came up >>>last >>> week while I was at Apachecon. My understanding is that we

Re: ApacheCon CFP review committee

Hi Rich, I'm on the road with limited internet so I haven't looked, but when are reviews due? Thanks, -Alex On 2/17/16, 1:51 PM, "Rich Bowen" wrote: >By now, you should have received email from the ApacheCon CFP system >with your system credentials. Note that the email was

Re: ApacheCon CFP, review committee needed

Hi Rich, Are there going to be tracks and track chairs? I'm interested in seeing a track on Client-side topics and am willing to help review talks relating to that. If the reviewers need to be Apache-wide, I am probably not be best person for that. Thanks, -Alex On 2/13/16, 3:57 AM, "Rich

[ApacheCon NA] Client Track

Hi, What is the appropriate list for discussing possible tracks for ApacheCon? Some Apache projects, like Flex and Cordova, are more oriented to clients, applications and front-ends than server-side, backend code. For this year's ApacheCon in Vancouver, Flex and Cordova want to propose a track

Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China Community

On 11/21/15, 7:06 PM, "William A Rowe Jr" wrote: >That was my reaction. A dev-cn@community.apache. org could be a useful >discussion vehicle to engage prospects and help with facilitating that >engagement. It wouldn't look all that much different than the usual >English

Re: Passion and vigilance in open source

IMO, I believe history does repeat itself, and that there are pendulums and cycles, but I think the dynamic here is more linear. Now I certainly haven’t been involved with open source and Apache for very long, but having met Roy and heard him describe why Apache was founded and how it was

Mailing List Subscriber Count (was Re: Apache Reporter Service)

On 7/16/15, 7:24 AM, "Alex Harui" <aha...@adobe.com> wrote: >OK. Thanks for the info. > >I might try subsetting the information to not grab the release info and >run a job once a day to cache the latest for my project on some other >server. I’ll reply ba

Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF?

On 8/20/15, 5:27 PM, William A Rowe Jr wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: It is generally AL code all the time. I don't know where you invented a 'kick-in' concept, but unless the committers are violating their ICLA/CCLA, nothing could be further from the truth. Committers sometimes make mistakes.

Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF?

On 8/20/15, 9:26 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: However, a quick search reveals that there are precisely zero occurrences of the word 'release' in version 2.0 of the Apache License. So, I don't know what Jim meant by 'licenses kick in at release', but my view is that

Re: Can't reporter.a.o automatically detect version number and release date?

On 6/25/15, 7:18 AM, hedh...@gmail.com on behalf of Niclas Hedhman hedh...@gmail.com on behalf of nic...@hedhman.org wrote: If the format is published, and the reward of following it would be that the reporter picks it up automatically, it could lead to swift adoption ;-) You might get push

Re: Apache Reporter Service

This is a really cool service. I noticed it wants login creds. What data would have to be stripped in order to allow general public access? What would it take to get the JSON for the public info? I’ll write the client side in Apache Flex. Thanks, -Alex On 3/5/15, 1:39 AM, Daniel Gruno

Re: Veto! Veto?

to fit in he Apache Way. Best regards Pierre Smits *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 5:24 AM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: Consensus Approval works

Re: Veto! Veto?

If person A ‘can’t work’ with person B, in the nomination discussion, if person A is a reasonable person and sees overwhelming support for person B, person A should simply vote +0 and try to avoid person B. It isn’t like you all work in the same physical office. Once a group of people gets large

Re: Veto! Veto?

Consensus Approval works great until you have someone who others rightly or wrongly perceive as an obstructionist. Then it just makes the whole project the loser. At least one project uses majority approval for new members, but a serious attempt is made to make sure that the vote is unanimous

Oaths and Anthems (was Re: A maturity model for Apache projects)

I think Bertrand’s document is coming along nicely. This is half serious and half for fun, but while it will be great to have a maturity model and top-level authoritative documents on the Apache Way, to me, what would also help is a way to make important things memorizable. I sure hope I don’t

Re: projects.apache.org overhaul proposal

On 1/15/15, 9:46 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: Where are you seeing discouragement of pilot projects? In the tone and content of the responses on this thread, including this one where it feels to me you are again using the maintenance and training costs to

Re: projects.apache.org overhaul proposal

On 1/15/15, 6:35 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com wrote: ...*historically*, when this kind of thing has happened (project implements, thing becomes critical), gradually it becomes the responsibility of Infra,

Re: projects.apache.org overhaul proposal

://www.orrtiz.com* Services Solutions for Cloud- Based Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 10:30 PM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: I’m way outside my area of knowledge, but is there anything stopping the OFBiz community from

Re: How can we support a faster release cadence?

My (more than) 2 cents on this topic. It's going to be really interesting to see how the board decides on this sort of thing. Your plan is completely logical. Plenty of business operate this way like newspapers and car manufacturers. Everybody knows when the next release is. Car

Re: How can we support a faster release cadence?

IMO, a more important question is: Does it fit within the Apache Way of Community over Code to have a project release on a particular schedule? Because it feels to me that if you have a release cadence then you are saying Clock over Community. I get that having a schedule helps many in the

Re: Feedback on Flex board report

it is worth blogging it. The draft of the report is captured on the dev@flex.a.o archives so it is public and searchable. -- Alex Harui Flex SDK Team Adobe Systems, Inc. http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui