Re: [VOTE] KIP-944 Support async runtimes in consumer, votes needed!

2023-08-03 Thread Erik van Oosten
Hi Philip, Colin, Chris, Matthias, Kirk, David, Xiangyuan LI, KIP-944 was extended a bit more to explain why effect systems like Zio and Cats-effects make it impossible to run code on a specific thread. I understand that using an effect system is pretty far removed from writing Java in

Re: [VOTE] KIP-944 Support async runtimes in consumer, votes needed!

2023-07-24 Thread Erik van Oosten
nt to people that use async runtimes like Zio, Cats and Kotlin. Is there anything you need to come to a decision? Kind regards, Erik. Op 05-07-2023 om 11:38 schreef Erik van Oosten: Hello all, I'd like to call a vote on KIP-944 Support async runtimes in consumer. It has has been

Re: [VOTE] KIP-944 Support async runtimes in consumer, votes needed!

2023-07-23 Thread Xiangyuan LI
> >>>>>>>>>>>> multithreaded access in general. Basically cache line > visibility > >>>>>>>>>>>> issues. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > This is true even if the accesses happen at different > >>>>>>>

Re: [VOTE] KIP-944 Support async runtimes in consumer, votes needed!

2023-07-23 Thread Erik van Oosten
t keeps you busy, but this KIP is important to people that use async runtimes like Zio, Cats and Kotlin. Is there anything you need to come to a decision? Kind regards, Erik. Op 05-07-2023 om 11:38 schreef Erik van Oosten: Hello all, I'd like to call a vote on KIP-944 Support async runt

Re: [VOTE] KIP-944 Support async runtimes in consumer, votes needed!

2023-07-22 Thread David Jacot
gt; >>>>>>>>>> now, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> due to our need to send heartbeats from a worker thread. I > >>>>>>>>>>>>> don't think > >>>>>>>>>>>>> those

Re: [VOTE] KIP-944 Support async runtimes in consumer, votes needed!

2023-07-22 Thread Erik van Oosten
use async runtimes like Zio, Cats and Kotlin. Is there anything you need to come to a decision? Kind regards, Erik. Op 05-07-2023 om 11:38 schreef Erik van Oosten: Hello all, I'd like to call a vote on KIP-944 Support async runtimes in consumer. It has has been 'under discussion'

Re: [VOTE] KIP-944 Support async runtimes in consumer, votes needed!

2023-07-22 Thread Chris Egerton
>>>>>>>>> model > >>>>>>>>>>>> where people make calls to the client and the clients passes > >>>>>>>>>>>> the given > >>>>>>>>>>>>

Re: [VOTE] KIP-944 Support async runtimes in consumer, votes needed!

2023-07-22 Thread Erik van Oosten
ponses to KIP-944. I understand this may not be something that keeps you busy, but this KIP is important to people that use async runtimes like Zio, Cats and Kotlin. Is there anything you need to come to a decision? Kind regards, Erik. Op 05-07-2023 om 11:38 schreef Erik van Oosten:

Re: [VOTE] KIP-944 Support async runtimes in consumer, votes needed!

2023-07-22 Thread Erik van Oosten
ople that use async runtimes like Zio, Cats and Kotlin. Is there anything you need to come to a decision? Kind regards, Erik. Op 05-07-2023 om 11:38 schreef Erik van Oosten: Hello all, I'd like to call a vote on KIP-944 Support async runtimes in consumer. It has has been 'under

Re: [VOTE] KIP-944 Support async runtimes in consumer, votes needed!

2023-07-22 Thread Chris Egerton
not an issue; all async runtimes can > >>>>>>>>> cooperate with blocking code. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hmm, not sure what you mean by "cooperate with blocking code." > >>>>>>>> If yo

Re: [VOTE] KIP-944 Support async runtimes in consumer, votes needed!

2023-07-22 Thread Erik van Oosten
es like Zio, Cats and Kotlin. Is there anything you need to come to a decision? Kind regards,     Erik. Op 05-07-2023 om 11:38 schreef Erik van Oosten: Hello all, I'd like to call a vote on KIP-944 Support async runtimes in consumer. It has has been 'under discussion' for 7 days now. 'U

Re: [VOTE] KIP-944 Support async runtimes in consumer, votes needed!

2023-07-21 Thread Matthias J. Sax
van Oosten wrote: Dear PMCs, So far there have been 0 responses to KIP-944. I understand this may not be something that keeps you busy, but this KIP is important to people that use async runtimes like Zio, Cats and Kotlin. Is there anything you need to come to a decision? Kind regards,

Re: [VOTE] KIP-944 Support async runtimes in consumer, votes needed!

2023-07-14 Thread Kirk True
gt;>>> goals are modest. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also the implementation is just a few lines. With understanding of the >>>>>>> idea it should not be a lot of work to follow it. >>>>>>> >>>>>&

Re: [VOTE] KIP-944 Support async runtimes in consumer, votes needed!

2023-07-14 Thread Erik van Oosten
Thu, Jul 6, 2023, at 12:02, Erik van Oosten wrote: Dear PMCs, So far there have been 0 responses to KIP-944. I understand this may not be something that keeps you busy, but this KIP is important to people that use async runtimes like Zio, Cats and Kotlin. Is there anything you need to come to a

Re: [VOTE] KIP-944 Support async runtimes in consumer, votes needed!

2023-07-13 Thread Colin McCabe
gt;>> haven't been into the consumer / producer code in a bit.) Someone who has >>> worked more on the consumer recently might be able to give specific >>> examples of things that wouldn't work. >>> >>> >>> >>> I know that ther

Re: [VOTE] KIP-944 Support async runtimes in consumer, votes needed!

2023-07-12 Thread Erik van Oosten
, Jul 6, 2023, at 12:02, Erik van Oosten wrote: Dear PMCs, So far there have been 0 responses to KIP-944. I understand this may not be something that keeps you busy, but this KIP is important to people that use async runtimes like Zio, Cats and Kotlin. Is there anything you need to come to a deci

Re: [VOTE] KIP-944 Support async runtimes in consumer, votes needed!

2023-07-12 Thread Erik van Oosten
something that keeps you busy, but this KIP is important to people that use async runtimes like Zio, Cats and Kotlin. Is there anything you need to come to a decision? Kind regards, Erik. Op 05-07-2023 om 11:38 schreef Erik van Oosten: Hello all, I'd like to call a vote on KIP-944

Re: [VOTE] KIP-944 Support async runtimes in consumer, votes needed!

2023-07-11 Thread Philip Nee
hink >> those would be sufficient to protect a client that is making calls from >> random threads. >> >>> >> >>> There has been some discussion of moving to a more traditional model >> where people make calls to the client and the clients passes the given data >> to a

Re: [VOTE] KIP-944 Support async runtimes in consumer, votes needed!

2023-07-11 Thread Philip Nee
mory, the producer blocks in some "buffer full" cases, and the consumer > blocks sometimes when fetching metadata. > >>> > >>> I suspect it would be more appropriate for Kotlin coroutines, Zio > coroutines and so on to adopt this "pass messages to and from a

Re: [VOTE] KIP-944 Support async runtimes in consumer, votes needed!

2023-07-08 Thread Erik van Oosten
y not be something that keeps you busy, but this KIP is important to people that use async runtimes like Zio, Cats and Kotlin. Is there anything you need to come to a decision? Kind regards,     Erik. Op 05-07-2023 om 11:38 schreef Erik van Oosten: Hello all, I'd like to call a vote on KIP-944

Re: [VOTE] KIP-944 Support async runtimes in consumer, votes needed!

2023-07-08 Thread Colin McCabe
getting anywhere >> near a vote. I will leave a -1 just as a procedural step. Maybe some of the >> people working in the client area can also chime in. >> >> best, >> Colin >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, at 12:02, Erik van Oosten wrote: >>> Dea

Re: [VOTE] KIP-944 Support async runtimes in consumer, votes needed!

2023-07-08 Thread Erik van Oosten
Op 05-07-2023 om 11:38 schreef Erik van Oosten: Hello all, I'd like to call a vote on KIP-944 Support async runtimes in consumer. It has has been 'under discussion' for 7 days now. 'Under discussion' between quotes, because there were 0 comments so far. I hope the KIP is clear! KIP description:htt

Re: [VOTE] KIP-944 Support async runtimes in consumer, votes needed!

2023-07-07 Thread Colin McCabe
gt; Kind regards, >     Erik. > > > Op 05-07-2023 om 11:38 schreef Erik van Oosten: >> Hello all, >> >> I'd like to call a vote on KIP-944 Support async runtimes in consumer. >> It has has been 'under discussion' for 7 days now. 'Under discussion' >> be

Re: [VOTE] KIP-944 Support async runtimes in consumer, votes needed!

2023-07-06 Thread Erik van Oosten
-2023 om 11:38 schreef Erik van Oosten: Hello all, I'd like to call a vote on KIP-944 Support async runtimes in consumer. It has has been 'under discussion' for 7 days now. 'Under discussion' between quotes, because there were 0 comments so far. I hope the KIP is clear! KIP description: https

[VOTE] KIP-944 Support async runtimes in consumer

2023-07-05 Thread Erik van Oosten
Hello all, I'd like to call a vote on KIP-944 Support async runtimes in consumer. It has has been 'under discussion' for 7 days now. 'Under discussion' between quotes, because there were 0 comments so far. I hope the KIP is clear! KIP description: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x