AW: AW: Source Time of PLC Value?

2021-03-11 Thread Christofer Dutz
Betreff: Re: AW: Source Time of PLC Value? Hey Matthias and Chris, I agree with you about complexity and alignment. I am far from trying to cover each and every case. At the same time I am aware that making thing fine in first run is crucial to avoid major changes afterwards. That's also why I did

Re: AW: Source Time of PLC Value?

2021-03-11 Thread Stephen Snow
On Thu, 2021-03-11 at 19:13 +0100, Łukasz Dywicki wrote: > [snip] .. > While I do appreciate work made to bring all (C/Python/C#?) languages > under Apache PLC4X umbrella I also do see that sometimes they are > being > {snip] > Isn't it a time to make sure that C/C#/Python can still compile with

Re: AW: Source Time of PLC Value?

2021-03-11 Thread Łukasz Dywicki
eb Christofer Dutz < >>> christofer.d...@c-ware.de>: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I'm generally more concerned about users expecting us to deliver feature >>>> that driver X has for driver Y too. >>>> >>>> I won'

Re: AW: Source Time of PLC Value?

2021-03-11 Thread Matthias Milan Strljic
er X has for driver Y too. > >> > >> I won't object, if you think it's worth doing. > >> > >> Perhaps if you could whip up an example in a feature branch? I think > >> perhaps I was still not understanding what you propose. > >> > >>

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2021-03-10 Thread Christofer Dutz
, not make things too complicated for normal users or to have a significant impact on performance. Chris -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Łukasz Dywicki Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. März 2021 17:28 An: dev@plc4x.apache.org Betreff: Re: AW: AW: AW: Source Time of PLC Value? On technical side

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2021-03-10 Thread Łukasz Dywicki
to > open terminals on PLCs and execute arbitrary code on the remote device. Cause > this is all stuff I have been doing using JDBC ;-) > > Chris > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Łukasz Dywicki > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. März 2021 15:05 > An: dev@plc4x.apac

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2021-03-10 Thread Łukasz Dywicki
C4X to > open terminals on PLCs and execute arbitrary code on the remote device. Cause > this is all stuff I have been doing using JDBC ;-) > > Chris > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Łukasz Dywicki > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. März 2021 15:05 > An: dev@

AW: Source Time of PLC Value?

2021-03-10 Thread Christofer Dutz
all of this and it seems to be gaining >> more and more traction, just because it doesn't have all of this overhead. >> >> Just my thoughts on this. >> >> Chris >> >> >> >> >> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- >> Von: Łukasz D

AW: Source Time of PLC Value?

2021-03-10 Thread Christofer Dutz
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. März 2021 12:58 > An: dev@plc4x.apache.org > Betreff: Re: AW: Source Time of PLC Value? > > Matthias, > I do believe there are several points which are relevant and still not > possible to be implemented using available PLC4X API. Metadata mi

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2021-03-10 Thread Christofer Dutz
2021 15:05 An: dev@plc4x.apache.org Betreff: Re: AW: AW: Source Time of PLC Value? Chris, What we discuss is whether there is a need and use for result set metadata or not. Given initial statement of "being a for of JDBC for industrial devices" and looking at JDBC itself we should provid

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2021-03-10 Thread Łukasz Dywicki
of this and it seems to be gaining > more and more traction, just because it doesn't have all of this overhead. > > Just my thoughts on this. > > Chris > > > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Łukasz Dywicki > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. März 2021 12:58

AW: AW: Source Time of PLC Value?

2021-03-10 Thread Christofer Dutz
@plc4x.apache.org Betreff: Re: AW: Source Time of PLC Value? Matthias, I do believe there are several points which are relevant and still not possible to be implemented using available PLC4X API. Metadata might not be most fortunate way, but it can enable or ease analytical and troubleshooting scenarios. Two

Re: AW: Source Time of PLC Value?

2021-03-10 Thread Łukasz Dywicki
n't object, if you think it's worth doing. >> >> Perhaps if you could whip up an example in a feature branch? I think >> perhaps I was still not understanding what you propose. >> >> Would that be ok? >> >> >> Chris >> >> >> -Ursprüngliche

Re: AW: Source Time of PLC Value?

2021-03-10 Thread Łukasz Dywicki
>> >> Would that be ok? >> >> >> Chris >> >> >> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- >> Von: Lukas Ott >> Gesendet: Montag, 8. März 2021 14:20 >> An: dev@plc4x.apache.org >> Betreff: Re: AW: Source Time of PLC Value? >> >&

Re: AW: Source Time of PLC Value?

2021-03-08 Thread Matthias Milan Strljic
was still not understanding what you propose. > > Would that be ok? > > > Chris > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Lukas Ott > Gesendet: Montag, 8. März 2021 14:20 > An: dev@plc4x.apache.org > Betreff: Re: AW: Source Time of PLC Value? > > +1 t

AW: AW: Source Time of PLC Value?

2021-03-08 Thread Christofer Dutz
that be ok? Chris -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Lukas Ott Gesendet: Montag, 8. März 2021 14:20 An: dev@plc4x.apache.org Betreff: Re: AW: Source Time of PLC Value? +1 to Lukasz Am Mo., 8. März 2021 um 14:09 Uhr schrieb Łukasz Dywicki < l...@code-house.org>: > Hold on for

Re: AW: Source Time of PLC Value?

2021-03-08 Thread Lukas Ott
+1 to Lukasz Am Mo., 8. März 2021 um 14:09 Uhr schrieb Łukasz Dywicki < l...@code-house.org>: > Hold on for a second. > > Making options pushed over connection string is a long term recipe for > disaster. Apache Camel is a prime example of what could happen if you > starting with configuration

Re: AW: Source Time of PLC Value?

2021-03-08 Thread Łukasz Dywicki
Hold on for a second. Making options pushed over connection string is a long term recipe for disaster. Apache Camel is a prime example of what could happen if you starting with configuration with URIs and dynamic parameters. Most of components distinguish producer (writer) and consumer (receiver)

AW: Source Time of PLC Value?

2021-03-08 Thread Christofer Dutz
Hi, I must admit that I would be in favor of keeping it as simple as possible (max age in the connection string) and to implement more of the missing parts in plc4x (like the subscription simulation layer) and hereby getting the drivers we have a bit more aligned, than to implement more and

AW: Source Time of PLC Value?

2021-03-08 Thread Christofer Dutz
Hi all, sorry for being late to the party ... KNX is currently consuming all my cycles. Just wanted to add my thoughts to the discussion. Initially I thought about adding this sort of information to the API, but then I thought that we have so little protocols supporting this sort of concept

AW: Source Time of PLC Value?

2021-03-05 Thread Julian Feinauer
This is not a simple questing and depends on the protocol and device you are using. What are you using? J Von meinem Mobiltelefon gesendet Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: Andreas Vogler Datum: Fr., 5. März 2021, 21:04 An: dev@plc4x.apache.org Betreff: Re: Source Time of PLC