Re: [VOTE] Apache Spark PMC asks Databricks to differentiate its Spark version string

2023-06-22 Thread Mich Talebzadeh
Sorry I believe I opinionated on it but did not vote. -1 for me For reasons already brought up and discussed. HTH Mich Talebzadeh, Solutions Architect/Engineering Lead Palantir Technologies Limited London United Kingdom view my Linkedin profile

Re: [VOTE] Apache Spark PMC asks Databricks to differentiate its Spark version string

2023-06-22 Thread Dongjoon Hyun
Thank you, Sean, Mitch, Hyukjin, and Maciej for your participation. The vote is open until June 23rd 1AM (PST) and I'll conclude this vote after that. Dongjoon. PS. Steve's email seems to arrive to this thread mistakenly. :) On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 3:12 AM Steve Loughran wrote: > I'd say

Re: [VOTE] Apache Spark PMC asks Databricks to differentiate its Spark version string

2023-06-21 Thread Steve Loughran
I'd say everyone should *and* http UA in all the clients who make calls of object stores should, as it helps field issues there. s3a and abfs clients do provide the ability to add params there -please set them in your deployments On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 at 21:53, Dongjoon Hyun wrote: > Please vote

Re: [VOTE] Apache Spark PMC asks Databricks to differentiate its Spark version string

2023-06-20 Thread Maciej
+0 A PMC member raised a justified concern regarding the Apache Spark trademark usage. Based on the linked discussion on @legal, that opinion seems to be weakly supported by the ASF Legal Affairs Assistant V.P. As such, it shouldn't just be rejected, especially not because of our preference

Re: [VOTE] Apache Spark PMC asks Databricks to differentiate its Spark version string

2023-06-18 Thread Hyukjin Kwon
With the spirit of open source, -1. At least there have been other cases mentioned in the discussion thread, and solely doing it for one specific vendor would not solve the problem, and I wouldn't also expect to cast a vote for each case publicly. I would prefer to start this in the narrower

Re: [VOTE] Apache Spark PMC asks Databricks to differentiate its Spark version string

2023-06-16 Thread Dongjoon Hyun
Here are my replies, Sean. > Since we're here, fine: I vote -1, simply because this states no reason for the action at all. Thank you for your explicit vote because this vote was explicitly triggered by this controversial comment, "I do not see some police action from the PMC must follow". > I

Re: [VOTE] Apache Spark PMC asks Databricks to differentiate its Spark version string

2023-06-16 Thread Mich Talebzadeh
Since the genie is out of the bottle now and I have been involved in this discussion all the way, I think the question ought to be "Apache Spark DEV community asks Databricks to differentiate its Spark version string". That makes more sense as Spark DEV community is a superset of PMC if I am not

Re: [VOTE] Apache Spark PMC asks Databricks to differentiate its Spark version string

2023-06-16 Thread Sean Owen
On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 3:58 PM Dongjoon Hyun wrote: > I started the thread about already publicly visible version issues > according to the ASF PMC communication guideline. It's no confidential, > personal, or security-related stuff. Are you insisting this is confidential? > Discussion about a

Re: [VOTE] Apache Spark PMC asks Databricks to differentiate its Spark version string

2023-06-16 Thread Dongjoon Hyun
For the following, > this discussion should have been on private@ to begin with, but, the ship has sailed. ... > This doesn't make sense here. I started the thread about already publicly visible version issues according to the ASF PMC communication guideline. It's no confidential, personal, or

Re: [VOTE] Apache Spark PMC asks Databricks to differentiate its Spark version string

2023-06-16 Thread Sean Owen
As we noted in the last thread, this discussion should have been on private@ to begin with, but, the ship has sailed. You are suggesting that non-PMC members vote on whether the PMC has to do something? No, that's not how anything works here. It's certainly the PMC that decides what to put in the

Re: [VOTE] Apache Spark PMC asks Databricks to differentiate its Spark version string

2023-06-16 Thread Dongjoon Hyun
No, this is a vote on dev@ intentionally as a part of our previous thread, "ASF policy violation and Scala version issues" ( https://lists.apache.org/thread/k7gr65wt0fwtldc7hp7bd0vkg1k93rrb) > did you mean this for the PMC list? I clearly started the thread with the following. > - Apache Spark

Re: [VOTE] Apache Spark PMC asks Databricks to differentiate its Spark version string

2023-06-16 Thread Sean Owen
What does a vote on dev@ mean? did you mean this for the PMC list? Dongjoon - this offers no rationale about "why". The more relevant thread begins here: https://lists.apache.org/thread/k7gr65wt0fwtldc7hp7bd0vkg1k93rrb but it likewise never got to connecting a specific observation to policy.

Re: [VOTE] Apache Spark PMC asks Databricks to differentiate its Spark version string

2023-06-16 Thread Dongjoon Hyun
+1 Dongjoon On 2023/06/16 19:53:03 Dongjoon Hyun wrote: > Please vote on the following statement. The vote is open until June 23th > 1AM (PST) and passes if a majority +1 PMC votes are cast, with a minimum of > 3 +1 votes. > > Apache Spark PMC asks Databricks to differentiate its Spark >

[VOTE] Apache Spark PMC asks Databricks to differentiate its Spark version string

2023-06-16 Thread Dongjoon Hyun
Please vote on the following statement. The vote is open until June 23th 1AM (PST) and passes if a majority +1 PMC votes are cast, with a minimum of 3 +1 votes. Apache Spark PMC asks Databricks to differentiate its Spark version string to avoid confusions because Apache Spark PMC is responsible