Oh, sure, ask the tough questions after my bed-time! ;-)
I haven't had the opportunity to pour over our stuff as thoroughly as I
would like - and need to, in order to be accurate and concise. It's late
and I've absolutely got to get some rest. I start an Essbase class
tomorrow. I'm less than
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Date: Mon Oct 25 23:42:43 2004
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Date: Mon Oct 25 23:59:48 2004
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On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 01:23:05 -0500, Eddie Bush wrote:
Most of my concerns are in the Release Guidelines. It's ambiguous
to say any release should follow the guidelines of both tomcat and
httpd. They're decidedly different with respect to where the
emphasis is placed.
If someone can provide
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Hi list,
is there a wiki page on Struts-Chain?
or only the files inside of contrib/ ?
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My 2 cents
* Release plans are a good idea IMO and I'd prefer them being a *must*
rather than *may* - since it takes a while to get a release out, its a good
way of communicating where its at.
* I think test builds such as 1.2.5 should be on the aquiring page,
hopefully that will encourage a
Date: 2004-10-26T06:01:32
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Date: 2004-10-26T06:06:05
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'''struts-chain''' is a package designed to open up the RequestProcessor chain to more
flexible
At 11:22 AM +0200 10/26/04, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
Hi list,
is there a wiki page on Struts-Chain?
or only the files inside of contrib/ ?
There is now! Doesn't say much though -- feel free to help grow it!
http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsChain
I also cleaned up the RequestProcessor page to
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 04:56:45 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
URL: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsShale
A few more more notes.
2.4 View Controller
3.3 View (Presentation) Tier APIs
Proposal:: JavaServer Faces 1.1
Does the View Controller need to be tied to JSF?
Could the interface be
Now that 1.2.5 has been built and uploaded, can we now move Struts
dependancy on to BeanUtils 1.7.0 and remove the dependancy on Commons
Collections?
If the answer is yes and there are no objections to doing this, then looks
to me like the following needs doing:
1) Update the dependancies
Currently we have a 1.2.5 build that has no details of whats changed in the
documentation thats included with it. The problem with the way release
notes currently work is that the release-notes.xml contains the current
release - but since a new build (like 1.2.5) is created before its voted on
Perhaps we should just use the release checklist as our guidelines. We could put a
copy under SVN and then say
The release process is described by a checklist link, which the Release Manager may
post to the wiki link and use as the basis of the Release Plan.
Which is what we've been doing
Author: jmitchell
Date: Tue Oct 26 08:15:10 2004
New Revision: 55613
Modified:
struts/trunk/project.xml
Log:
we no longer depend on commons-lang for testing (this actually only impacted the ant
build since Maven _still_ does not do what ant does)
Modified: struts/trunk/project.xml
I would be +1 for 1.5 as well
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(mostly for Craig) I have also removed the test dependency on commons-lang a
week or so ago, so you can drop in on your nightlies.
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On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:12:51 -0400, James Mitchell wrote:
It was my impression that Ted would update the release notes and I
was simply putting some of the other pieces together. I am still a
newbie to the release process so please be kind.
I did mean to, James, but I just didn't get to it in
I wasn't criticising you James - if they had been updated and 1.2.5 never
made *release status then that would have been an issue. The process just
needs changing since we've moved to the new style release mechanism.
Niall
P.S. Having never yet attempted to do a release, I guess I'm not even at
This raises another question. Do we want the release notes to be all the
changes since the last GA quality release or the changes in this version?
I'd prefer all the changes since the last GA quality release as I think
thats what users really want to know. If a build doesn't make GA release
I'm +1 for 1.5 as well, but from memory I believe there were people who
didn't want to be that bleeding edge.
Niall
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Just time for a couple of notes this morning.
I'm +0 on JDK 5.0 (nee 1.5) depending on how long we really think this
is going to take. The struts core part of this isn't really huge or
complicated, but asking a Struts developer for a timeline is probably
a silly thing to do :-).
Other comments
I think we want to reward people who are helping us test the non-GA
releases as well, by delinieating the dot-dot changes separately.
That still gives people who want the whole picture what they need:
Changes in version 1.2.6:
* ...
* ...
Changes in version 1.2.5:
* ...
* ...
Date: 2004-10-26T09:47:00
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At 5:32 PM +0100 10/26/04, Niall Pemberton wrote:
I'm +1 for 1.5 as well, but from memory I believe there were people who
didn't want to be that bleeding edge.
Or those who use a lovely operating system whose own Tiger release is
still several months away, with no plans for Java 5.0 support
Some people already moan that struts is too jsp orientated with
the tags that are included
I'm not trying to tip the discussion in any direction here, but I
thought I would point out that JSF is supposed to be view agnostic.
Render kits are being built for WML, Swing, etc. I think that it is
At 7:02 PM +0100 10/26/04, Niall Pemberton wrote:
I'm all for taking JSF faces strongly into account, but the proposal seems
to be *JSF only* for the view tier - to the exclusion of all others. Since I
haven't tried out JSF yet and therefore don't know enough about it that
makes me uneasy.
Seems
Niall Pemberton wrote:
I'm all for taking JSF faces strongly into account, but the proposal seems
to be *JSF only* for the view tier - to the exclusion of all others. Since I
haven't tried out JSF yet and therefore don't know enough about it that
makes me uneasy.
Is this correct? I did get that
I take your points but I probably didn't express this very well - I was
thinking more that in the same way that jsp is a standard java technolody
and has its supporters/detractors - the same will probably be true of JSF.
The jsp detractors don't like the jsp orientation even when Struts isn't
OK Craig didn't say it was JSF only - but that was my interpretation of
the likely direction.
He said The interface as currently defined is not dependent on JSF but
then went on to say that JSF already solves a whole load of the view tier
issues and re-inventing them outside JSF is ...not an
If Niall is right that JSF is a required aspect of the proposals, I
would agree with him. This is not a negative toward JSF in any sense.
The jury in my head is out on that one and is finding some nice things
there. However, I do think that choices are excellent in any
framework. And, so, I
Sorry, I had not received Niall's email when this was sent.
Michael McGrady wrote:
If Niall is right that JSF is a required aspect of the proposals, I
would agree with him. This is not a negative toward JSF in any sense.
The jury in my head is out on that one and is finding some nice things
Niall Pemberton wrote:
OK Craig didn't say it was JSF only - but that was my interpretation of
the likely direction.
He said The interface as currently defined is not dependent on JSF but
then went on to say that JSF already solves a whole load of the view tier
issues and re-inventing them outside
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Niall Pemberton wrote:
OK Craig didn't say it was JSF only - but that was my interpretation of
the likely direction.
He said The interface as currently defined is not dependent on JSF but
then went on to say that
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On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:40:59 +0100, Niall Pemberton wrote:
OK Craig didn't say it was JSF only - but that was my
interpretation of the likely direction.
Something to consider is that we are not constrained to a single line of development.
We could proceed with Struts Shale as a subproject
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:50:05 -0700, Craig McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* The proposed Struts Core doesn't contain or use any
JSF components -- it presumes the use of the infrastructure
stuff (managed beans, expressions, navigation mapping,
as well as the basic request processing
Struts (the controller) is pretty view agnostic as it sits now (unless
there's been some change of which I am unaware). There are even non-http
methods so that it can be used outside of a web application. I believe some
folks have actually even done this.
Struts does provide a lot to
JSF is view agnostic isn't it? Plus, it's going to into the 5.0 spec, so
... with Struts having such a strong history of making use of industry
standards and best-practice approaches, doesn't it seem logical any
revolutionary new release would utilize JSF?
I've not looked at JSF enough to
My apologies, Ted, but I've got a different release I need to be concerned
with tonght. I'm here long enough to answer some mail, eat, and relax just
a tad ... then it's back to the grind :-|
I stirred some more participation though, it looks like ... which is good
:-)
Be well!
Eddie
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Just wondering: how does Shale relate to struts-chain? E.g.
* Would Shale subsume struts-chain?
* Is struts-chain for 1.x and Shale for 2.x?
We're planning the next rev of tooling, so I'm wondering which
(moving) target(s) to try to hit, and when ...
TIA, Tom Roche, IBM Rational Developer
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 00:20:13 -0400, Thomas L Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just wondering: how does Shale relate to struts-chain? E.g.
* Would Shale subsume struts-chain?
It would likely subsume *struts*-chain, but not *commons*-chain (see below).
* Is struts-chain for 1.x and Shale for
Author: craigmcc
Date: Tue Oct 26 22:14:37 2004
New Revision: 55673
Added:
struts/trunk/contrib/struts-shale/src/java/org/apache/shale/Constants.java
struts/trunk/contrib/struts-shale/src/java/org/apache/shale/impl/ImplConstants.java
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