Re: JDK Version for 1.3.x

2005-04-28 Thread David Graham
1.4.2 sounds good to me. David --- Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't find the thread, but 1.4 gets my vote. Don Niall Pemberton wrote: I remember the discussion about the JDK version for Struts 1.3 - but I can't remember if an actual decision was made. Have we decided on JDK

Re: Can we remove data-source support?

2005-02-28 Thread David Graham
It's about time! +1 David --- James Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 -- James Mitchell Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist EdgeTech, Inc. 678.910.8017 AIM: jmitchtx - Original Message - From: Joe Germuska [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED];

Re: Any support for migrating to JIRA?

2005-01-28 Thread David Graham
Bugzilla works fine and is free software while JIRA is not free. For me, this takes much of the fun out of working on free software at Apache so I am not too keen on switching. The feeling of using and supporting free software is more important to me than a pretty UI. David --- Sean Schofield

Re: Any support for migrating to JIRA?

2005-01-28 Thread David Graham
Just to prevent confusion, I am using the term free as the FSF defines it: http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/free-sw.html. I am aware that JIRA is provided at *no cost* to Apache but it is certainly not free software. I have nothing against JIRA; it's probably a fine product. I just find it more

Re: Any support for migrating to JIRA?

2005-01-28 Thread David Graham
hard-earned dollars.) -Ted. On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:22:52 -0800 (PST), David Graham wrote: Just to prevent confusion, I am using the term free as the FSF defines it: http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/free-sw.html. I am aware that JIRA is provided at *no cost* to Apache but it is certainly

Re: OffTopic - aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrgggh

2005-01-24 Thread David Graham
That is rather lame but so is using logic:iterate when the standard c:forEach is so much easier ;-). David --- Nils Liebelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has nothing to do with Struts in particular. After spending 4:30 hrs of researching why my logic:iterate tags do such strange things

Re: Extracting taglibs

2004-12-22 Thread David Graham
--- Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW, so far, I extracted tiles and taglib into their own projects, and got both core and taglib compiling (haven't tried tiles yet). It took the steps I described earlier as well as moving some methods from TagUtils back into ResponseUtils. Of

Re: Tomcat versions and Struts

2004-12-13 Thread David Graham
Tomcat 4.1.x, 5.0.x, 5.5.x sound good to me. David --- James Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 Thanks again for your time -- James Mitchell Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist EdgeTech, Inc. 678.910.8017 AIM: jmitchtx - Original Message - From: Martin

Re: Minimum Ant version for building Struts

2004-12-11 Thread David Graham
Sounds good to me. David --- Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Currently, we say that Ant 1.5.4 is required for building Struts. I'd like to bump that to 1.6.2 as a minimum, so that we can take advantage of some of the features that were introduced in Ant 1.6. Anyone have any

Re: Call me crazy, but I want it all.

2004-12-09 Thread David Graham
--- Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't have a problem with tossing the Maven stuff. However, I believe we do have some Maven mavens in our midst who likely feel otherwise. This might sound odd, but perhaps, if we do have people who are interested in actively pursuing Maven, we

Re: [OT] Re: keeping Eclipse files in our repo [was Re: Package removal with new Digester]

2004-12-03 Thread David Graham
--- Matt Bathje [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Graham wrote: Eclipse classpath variables don't solve the issue because each developer may be using different variable names. Further, the name of the jar file may be different (ie. have version number in it). In my experience, forcing

Re: Struts API Bean (was Spring dreaming)

2004-12-03 Thread David Graham
--- Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem is that one developer's litter is another developer's treasure :) Right now, a lot of components are already pointing to the components we've scattered about the contexts. If we just move them into our own context, then those references

Re: ActionForm.validateForm(...) to replace ActionForm.validate(...)

2004-12-03 Thread David Graham
We didn't do it earlier because we wanted to use commons-resources for message passing. That hasn't happened so we may as well add the validateForm() method and deprecate validate(). David --- Joe Germuska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In order to push forward on full deprecation of ActionErrors,

Re: keeping Eclipse files in our repo [was Re: Package removal with new Digester]

2004-12-02 Thread David Graham
Thanks for changing the subject line so I noticed this thread again. I am very much against keeping IDE specific files in the repository. Even if you're using the same IDE, no two developer's environment will be the same so paths will be wrong, etc. This will be painful because checking out

Re: keeping Eclipse files in our repo [was Re: Package removal with new Digester]

2004-12-02 Thread David Graham
internal projects. That being said, I'm not sure having IDE specific stuff is right for something like Struts. Matt David Graham wrote: Thanks for changing the subject line so I noticed this thread again. I am very much against keeping IDE specific files in the repository. Even

Re: Spring dreaming (was Second call: add generic mapped property to ActionConfig)

2004-11-30 Thread David Graham
--- Craig McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:34:13 -0800 (PST), David Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Craig McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Don's assessment, but wanted to add an FYI note -- Shale does zero-config for #3 (because

Re: Spring dreaming (was Second call: add generic mapped property to ActionConfig)

2004-11-30 Thread David Graham
--- Joe Germuska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip This sounds like a good idea to me. I generally avoid Properties in favor of Maps in external interfaces but the casting really is a pain. Properties is a Map so you could store any old object in there anyways. David Now, then: This whole

Re: Spring dreaming (was Second call: add generic mapped property to ActionConfig)

2004-11-29 Thread David Graham
--- Craig McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Don's assessment, but wanted to add an FYI note -- Shale does zero-config for #3 (because the mapping between a JSP page and the corresponding ViewController is implicit), and doesn't require #1 unless you need it for doing Commons

Re: Spring dreaming (was Second call: add generic mapped property to ActionConfig)

2004-11-29 Thread David Graham
the usual migration arguments). Don David Graham wrote: --- Craig McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Don's assessment, but wanted to add an FYI note -- Shale does zero-config for #3 (because the mapping between a JSP page and the corresponding ViewController

Re: The Future of Struts Validation?

2004-11-15 Thread David Graham
to implement anything, just tell the framework the method name and parameters and you're done. David William - Original Message - From: David Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 9:47 AM Subject: Re

Re: The Future of Struts Validation?

2004-11-12 Thread David Graham
I've written a proposal for what Commons Validator 2.0 xml might look like here: http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/validator/validator_2_0_0_proposal.dtd It's an attempt to simplify things as well as make validator more flexible for web and non-web usage. Comments, criticisms, and suggestions

Re: ActionErrors

2004-11-02 Thread David Graham
. did you mean commons-i18n? -- James Mitchell Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist EdgeTech, Inc. 678.910.8017 AIM: jmitchtx - Original Message - From: David Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 10

Re: ActionErrors

2004-11-02 Thread David Graham
] are used, maybe how the values are accessed, but not with depracation/removal/etc .can you see why I'm a bit confused? -- James Mitchell Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist EdgeTech, Inc. 678.910.8017 AIM: jmitchtx - Original Message - From: David Graham

Re: ActionErrors

2004-10-29 Thread David Graham
ActionError has been deprecated for some time so we could remove it in 1.3. ActionErrors only exists because of ActionForm.validate(). I figured we would remove ActionErrors, ActionMessages, and ActionMessage in 2.0 and replace them with commons-resources. I wouldn't be opposed to deprecating

Re: ActionErrors

2004-10-29 Thread David Graham
--- Joe Germuska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 8:51 AM -0700 10/29/04, David Graham wrote: ActionError has been deprecated for some time so we could remove it in 1.3. ActionErrors only exists because of ActionForm.validate(). I figured we would remove ActionErrors, ActionMessages

Re: Proposal: Javascript-to-Java object conversions

2004-10-29 Thread David Graham
Have you looked at Rhino http://www.mozilla.org/rhino/ ? It lets you access Java from JS and JS from Java so you might not need to handle types if you just pass the JS into the Rhino interpreter. I'm not sure I understand the use cases for your proposal though. David --- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: XHTML Form Tag

2004-10-25 Thread David Graham
--- Craig McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip If I sound a little irked about this, it's because I am ... it turns out that the generted JavaScript function names for Commons Validator 1.1.3 (included with Struts 1.2.x) are different than the generated names in the version of

Re: non-standard attributes in taglib

2004-10-19 Thread David Graham
I strongly disagree that Struts should support any non-standard tags or attributes. I don't use IE and I despise websites that use IE specific tags so I can't use the site/app. properly. We've always done our best with Struts to produce valid markup according to the HTML and XHTML standards.

Re: struts, maven example projects

2004-10-09 Thread David Graham
One thing I like about Maven is that it has website generation built in. I also like being able to run 'maven clean dist' which outputs both the binary and source distros in zip and tar.gz formats. That being said, I use Ant rather than Maven for all my non-Jakarta work. Maven just doesn't

Re: Seperate Lists for Wiki Commits?

2004-10-06 Thread David Graham
This has been discussed before. I am strongly -1 on creating new lists. It's every committer's responsibility to monitor as many commits as they can. Having a separate list encourages people to ignore commit messages. Email filters completely solve this issue without the overhead and confusion

Re: Maven and SVN [was: Re: [VOTE] Struts 1.2.4 Quality]

2004-09-17 Thread David Graham
I don't think we have the volunteer hours to support starting from scratch and do you really want to rewrite ActionServlet, Action, etc.? IMO, we have a lot of tested, used, stable code that we should continue to use. You're right that we have some crufty old stuff that needs to be removed (all

Re: [VOTE] Struts 1.2.2 - downgrade quality

2004-09-07 Thread David Graham
+1 David --- Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given the problems we've had with 1.2.2, I'd like to retract my +1 for GA status. If one or more of the other voters were to do the same, we could then adjust the Struts Acquiring Page to reflect that Struts 1.1. is still the best

Re: [VOTE] Move minimum to 2.3 (was Re: Changing how CommonsMultipartRequestHandler handles text parameters?)

2004-09-03 Thread David Graham
snip Either it could be developed with compatibility to existing JDK versions and keep everyone happy. or go with JDK 1.5 and my preferernce would be to go to JDK 1.5 and use all those favorite-new-features. In the past we have required the Java version that the Servlet spec required. Why

Re: [PROPOSAL] Migrate Struts to Subversion

2004-09-03 Thread David Graham
+1 I am really tired of cvs losing the history of files/directories when you rename them. David --- Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I propose we migrate our current CVS repository to Subversion as soon as the infrastructure team is available to assist, giving at least a week to ensure

Re: JIRA Conversion (was RE: patch to make sure streams get closed)

2004-08-25 Thread David Graham
at apache.org) * Rob Leland (rleland at apache.org) * Cedric Dumoulin (cedric.dumoulin at lifl.fr) * Martin Cooper (martinc at apache.org) * Arron Bates (arron at apache.org) * James Holmes (jholmes at apache.org) * David M. Karr (dmkarr at apache.org) * David Graham

RE: [VOTE] Struts 1.2.1 Alpha, Beta, or GA? (was Re: Struts 1.2.1 release)

2004-07-23 Thread David Graham
I'm confused about whether this thread is a vote or not. The original message called for a vote on Monday. Regardless, I'm +1 on releasing 1.2.2 as GA since 1.2.1 has proven fairly stable and the minor issues have been patched. David --- Karr, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If Niall's change

Re: [VOTE] - Bill Siggelkow for committer

2004-07-10 Thread David Graham
Unfortunately, I don't have the benefit of personally knowing Bill. I haven't seen any patches or emails on the dev list to know anything about the quality of his work. For those reasons I can't give a +1 but I do respect James' opinion so I won't stand in the way. +0 David --- James

Re: Simplifying Struts

2004-07-06 Thread David Graham
--- Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With my extra day off today, I took a look at ways to simplify Struts. Having been impressed by the simplicity of NanoWeb, I particularly looked at ways to change the Struts concept of Actions and ActionForwards to support POJO's and configurations

RE: PATCH: html:cancel tag. Made a javascript version for submitt ing

2004-06-23 Thread David Graham
struts package, then they should be deprecated and moved to a different project. On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 15:21:25 -0700 (PDT), David Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well said Niall. IMO, tags with any of the following properties don't belong in Struts: 1. They don't interact

Re: PATCH: html:cancel tag. Made a javascript version for submitting

2004-06-23 Thread David Graham
--- Niall Pemberton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ Where Edgar might not be too happy is with tags being split into *core* (i.e. still actively developed) and *legacy* (tags which can be replaced with JSTL). I don't want to see these *legacy* tags deprecated - I have systems happily using

Re: Who owns validator?

2004-06-09 Thread David Graham
http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/validator/team-list.html David --- Michael Rasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are the struts committers the only ones who vote on validator? or is there an actual maintainer (and committers) for validator?

Re: [validator-plugin] MASK_VALIDATOR

2004-06-01 Thread David Graham
--- Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, what is the reason, the mask need to start with ^ and end with $ ? Because Commons Validator uses ORO as the regex engine. I believe when we move to standard Java 1.4 regexs you won't need the ^ and $. David -- var-name

RE: Validator Design Questions

2004-05-25 Thread David Graham
What does currently constituted mean? David --- Edgar P Dollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I for one would never use struts validator as it is currently constituted and to be required to use it would cause me to drop using struts. Please rethink this idea. Thanks Edgar -Original

Re: Validator Design Questions

2004-05-21 Thread David Graham
--- Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With the validator as a constant source of hangups, I'm working on becoming more familiar with how it works. I have some questions, perhaps rather basic and obvious: Why does Struts perform all its validation with o.a.s.v.CheckFields? It seems

Re: Validator Design Questions

2004-05-21 Thread David Graham
--- Joe Germuska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 3:16 PM -0400 5/20/04, Don Brown wrote: With the validator as a constant source of hangups, I'm working on becoming more familiar with how it works. I have some questions, perhaps rather basic and obvious: Why does Struts perform all its

Re: What should we do with Tiles?

2004-04-28 Thread David Graham
A personal blog is entirely the wrong place to have this discussion. Tiles is a Struts component so we should discuss on this dev list. This way the discussion will be archived like every other mailing list post. David --- Matt Raible [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, I've posted an entry on

Re: Struts-Chain App [was TilesServlet deleted]

2004-04-27 Thread David Graham
--- Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The Validator bottleneck is starting to feel like the 1.1 Death March again :( What bottleneck? There were problems with the 1.1.2 distro so it died in alpha; those issues should be fixed in the 1_1_2 branch (HEAD is for 1.2.0). 1.1.3 can be cut

RE: TilesServlet deleted

2004-04-26 Thread David Graham
/reason to add this back in? Matt -Original Message- From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 7:40 AM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: TilesServlet deleted Tiles is integrated with Struts so TilesServlet is no longer needed

Re: Adding new Struts features/sub-projects (was [Bug 28609] - Scriptable Actions Support)

2004-04-26 Thread David Graham
--- Steve Raeburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm posting this to the dev-list rather than carrying on with Bugzilla, since it looks like there might be some further discussion :-) I have no position on whether this should be considered core or an add-on, but if it's to be an add-on, why not

Re: [Apache Struts Wiki] Updated: StrutsConsultants

2004-04-10 Thread David Graham
Can we setup the wiki to send messages to the new [EMAIL PROTECTED] address? David --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: 2004-04-10T12:26:39 Editor: 69.157.79.104 Wiki: Apache Struts Wiki Page: StrutsConsultants URL: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsConsultants Adding

Re: Fw: UrlValidator() takes options - but how?

2004-04-04 Thread David Graham
--- Niall Pemberton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have submitted a patch in commons to UrlValidator which returns a code http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=28190 The existing isValid(value) method still works returning true/false. I have added isValid(Object value, boolean

RE: Splitting struts-config into multiple jar and read them as reso urce stream

2004-04-03 Thread David Graham
--- Joe Germuska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm just making this up as I go, but what if there were an optional servlet init param which could consist of one or more class names, where each class implemented a StrutsConfigurator interface. Then in servlet.init(), the servlet could

Re: Validator Plugin

2004-04-02 Thread David Graham
--- Robert Leland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Currently the Validator PlugIn doesn’t validate the XML file. I have updated it to remove the deprecated methods and to validate the XML files. Here is the question: Currently, the validator plugin fails by logging a message but doesn’t take

Re: URL validation

2004-04-01 Thread David Graham
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2004 03:41 PM To: 'Struts Developers List' Subject: Re: URL validation On 03/15/2004 10:16 AM Adam Hardy wrote: On 03/13/2004 07:46 AM

Re: Fw: UrlValidator() takes options - but how?

2004-04-01 Thread David Graham
Niall - Original Message - From: David Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 7:30 PM Subject: Re: Fw: UrlValidator() takes options - but how? The url validation was added to commons validator but, as you're