in the interest of your user community and just the general
public out there.
Jonathan Revusky wrote:
Thanks for the detailed argument Jonathon.
Jeromy Evans wrote:
Niall Pemberton wrote:
I just saw the following comment
FreeMarker is very similar to Velocity, as both are template
languages
them out of their complacency, I don't
know what would... :-)
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for even people around here to
swallow, isn't it?
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This is exactly like the split we had a few years ago
when Patrick and I decided to start from scratch with
WebWork 2.
Jason, I think to say exactly like is really
the while emit confused
messages claiming that Struts 1.x is not really being abandoned, surely
this is a bit much for even people around here to swallow, isn't it?
Jonathan Revusky
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people retain their position and power based on incumbency,
independently of how poor their performance has been, you obviously
don't have a meritocracy.
And the logic of this is actually inescapable, it seems. If you don't
have a meritocracy, you're not following the Apache Way.
Jonathan Revusky
before the revolution happened :)
Well, he would have had some other pejorative term(s) for them. But in
general, your point is well taken: people with strong opinions who
expound a consistent set of views in good faith are not trolls. That's
not what the term means.
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nicely agree with one another is inherently kind of sterile, and nothing
new or innovative tends to emerge from such an environment.
Jonathan Revusky
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Lately it's been ridiculous.
-Paul
Frank W. Zammetti wrote:
Question: looking at the status page, I don't seem to find any mention of
some of the licensing issues that were being discussed a while back...
IIRC, there was some concern about a calendar widget for example, among
other things. Am I just missing it on the page? Or
incubated
some more...
LOL
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people in.
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Let's say
what the Struts Way is. It is not, I would strongly suggest even slightly
related to the Apache Way. I am also strongly considering just
Daniel Warner wrote:
On 4/27/06, Jonathan Revusky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dakota Jack wrote:
Doesn't this kind of talk sound goofy to you all? Isn't this reference to
the Apache Way sort of like a secret handshake and a silly hat?
It's all that, yes, but it's also not very honest, I'd
! Would that be a first? Let's give it a go:
On 4/27/06, Jonathan Revusky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Daniel Warner wrote:
The
meritocracy idea at Apache is not about who does the work best.
It's just about who does the work. You do the work, you make
decisions.
You're joking, aren't you, Daniel
with the issues, I would suggest (strongly) that you
find some other way of motivating people to do some heavy lifting.
Because the approach embodied by this last note of yours is not going to
work.
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- Struts
) posts to the dev list in Greg Reddin's history
I provided a URL which demonstrates that that statement is incorrect.
ROTFL
But if the actual count is 3 instead of 4, that reinforces Dakota's
point, doesn't it? (And even if it was 7 or 8sheesh)
You guys sigh
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Jonathan Revusky wrote:
Martin Cooper wrote:
On 4/25/06, Dakota Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is the kind of stupid, assinine comment
What is stupid or assinine about pointing out that your count is
incorrect?
It *is* incorrect. You counted 4 posts to the dev list. To quote you
.
Jonathan Revusky
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In my
opinion, a project needs to have a name, a single name, which one uses
to identify it. If we want to bring WebWork in as a new Struts
subproject, and that is an option, then I'm fine with that. However,
I'm
(rechristed Struts Action
2) to supersede Struts 1.x.
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(such wonderful
people) but surely there is some agenda in wanting to excise webwork
and ww from all the code, isn't there?
Jonathan Revusky
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Hubert
is that the motivation of the Webwork people for this was
to *gain* the Apache/Struts name, not particularly to *lose* the Webwork
name. If Apache/Struts is now an umbrella, that implies replacing the
string OpenSymphony rather than the Webwork string.
Jonathan Revusky
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to show some respect for the history of this
project that you are basically getting dropped in your lap.
Jonathan Revusky
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you have no particular need to pay much heed to me.
OTOH, I consider it likely that other people might feel that same unease
and not be expressing it...
Jonathan Revusky
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FreeMarker group blog, http://freemarker.blogspot.com
Frank W. Zammetti wrote:
+1 (non-binding) here. If I had my druthers I would have gone with
saf, but ti works for me too, no objection.
I don't understand. Why not just use webwork if it comes to that, rather
than saf or ti. At least that acknowledges the heritage of the thing.
Jonathan
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