Re: Releasing Tiles (was: Re: [s2] 2.0.2 release this weekend)

2006-11-22 Thread Antonio Petrelli
Antonio Petrelli ha scritto: ...not to mention a strange effect that I had last week under Linux (this evening I will check it, I have Linux only at home) that made the Selenium tests fail. I did not open the issue simply because I was not sure about it. Ok false alarm :-) just tested

Re: Releasing Tiles (was: Re: [s2] 2.0.2 release this weekend)

2006-11-22 Thread David H. DeWolf
Martin Cooper wrote: On 11/21/06, David H. DeWolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible for tiles2 to 'graduate' into a full struts project (sibling of struts1 and struts2) until it gains a little more momentum? I actually think this would make a great deal of sense as an interim step

Re: Releasing Tiles (was: Re: [s2] 2.0.2 release this weekend)

2006-11-22 Thread Greg Reddin
On Nov 22, 2006, at 11:55 AM, David H. DeWolf wrote: Ok, so what should I do to drive this to a decision? If we have any sort of consensus, I'd like try to get it done before the struts 2.0.2 release so that we can have the tiles plugin use an alpha release. That may not be doable at

Re: Releasing Tiles (was: Re: [s2] 2.0.2 release this weekend)

2006-11-22 Thread Wendy Smoak
On 11/22/06, David H. DeWolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, so what should I do to drive this to a decision? If we have any sort of consensus, I'd like try to get it done before the struts 2.0.2 release so that we can have the tiles plugin use an alpha release. That may not be doable at this

Re: Releasing Tiles (was: Re: [s2] 2.0.2 release this weekend)

2006-11-22 Thread Greg Reddin
On Nov 22, 2006, at 12:07 PM, Wendy Smoak wrote: Personally, I don't think it's a good idea for either _project_ (for Struts to be an umbrella project, or for Tiles 2 to be so closely associated with Struts.) However, it seems to be the best choice right now for the people involved. That's

Re: Releasing Tiles (was: Re: [s2] 2.0.2 release this weekend)

2006-11-22 Thread Martin Cooper
On 11/22/06, David H. DeWolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin Cooper wrote: On 11/21/06, David H. DeWolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible for tiles2 to 'graduate' into a full struts project (sibling of struts1 and struts2) until it gains a little more momentum? I actually think

Re: Releasing Tiles (was: Re: [s2] 2.0.2 release this weekend)

2006-11-21 Thread Martin Cooper
On 11/21/06, David H. DeWolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wendy Smoak wrote: On 11/20/06, David H. DeWolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about getting an initial tiles release out so that the 2.0.2 tiles plugin can rely upon it instead of a snapshot? It would probably only be 'alpha' quality at

Re: Releasing Tiles (was: Re: [s2] 2.0.2 release this weekend)

2006-11-21 Thread Antonio Petrelli
Ted Husted ha scritto: On 11/21/06, David H. DeWolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thoughts? The key question is whether there are at least three (3) active committers who are using Tiles in their own projects and could vote +1 for GA release, should the build quality warrant. For what I can say,

Re: Releasing Tiles (was: Re: [s2] 2.0.2 release this weekend)

2006-11-21 Thread David H. DeWolf
Ted Husted wrote: On 11/21/06, David H. DeWolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thoughts? The key question is whether there are at least three (3) active committers who are using Tiles in their own projects and could vote +1 for GA release, should the build quality warrant. When making the tally,

Re: Releasing Tiles (was: Re: [s2] 2.0.2 release this weekend)

2006-11-21 Thread Antonio Petrelli
David H. DeWolf ha scritto: 1) Do we need to support EL for an alpha release? I think this an issue that needs to resolved, since it will be the replacement of beanName and similar attributes in Tiles configuration files. There was a feature in Tiles 1.1 and it has been erased when those

Re: Releasing Tiles (was: Re: [s2] 2.0.2 release this weekend)

2006-11-21 Thread Greg Reddin
On Nov 21, 2006, at 9:30 AM, David H. DeWolf wrote: procedural ones which we MUST take care of but are trivial (Copyright notices, and Id Keywords, I do think this one's critical to get out before alpha. retroweaver distributions), Probably could wait til after alpha. 1) Do we need to

Re: Releasing Tiles (was: Re: [s2] 2.0.2 release this weekend)

2006-11-21 Thread David H. DeWolf
Antonio Petrelli wrote: For what I can say, surely Tiles 2 cannot be released as GA (neither as alpha I suppose) since there is a blocking issue (just reopened :-) ) and some major issues, not to mention a strange effect that I had last week under Linux (this evening I will check it, I have

Re: Releasing Tiles (was: Re: [s2] 2.0.2 release this weekend)

2006-11-21 Thread Martin Cooper
On 11/20/06, Antonio Petrelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin Cooper ha scritto: If so, the next question would be whether or not we have enough people and enough energy to jump-start it. A good (non Apache yet but with Apache License) candidate for Java Web Components could be Java Web

Re: Releasing Tiles (was: Re: [s2] 2.0.2 release this weekend)

2006-11-21 Thread Martin Cooper
On 11/21/06, Antonio Petrelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg Reddin ha scritto: On Nov 21, 2006, at 9:15 AM, David H. DeWolf wrote: What I'm more concerned about is the community/oversight. How will Tiles 2 be accepted when compared with Sitemesh, etc? I don't know. The JSF community

Re: Releasing Tiles (was: Re: [s2] 2.0.2 release this weekend)

2006-11-21 Thread Konstantin Priblouda
--- Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you're misunderstanding. The purpose of Jakarta Web Components is to form a grouping of small web-related projects, along the same lines as Jakarta Commons but focussed on web related stuff. It is specifically not a project in and of

Re: Releasing Tiles (was: Re: [s2] 2.0.2 release this weekend)

2006-11-21 Thread David H. DeWolf
Wendy Smoak wrote: On 11/20/06, David H. DeWolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about getting an initial tiles release out so that the 2.0.2 tiles plugin can rely upon it instead of a snapshot? It would probably only be 'alpha' quality at this point, but the same snapshot logic that you

Re: Releasing Tiles (was: Re: [s2] 2.0.2 release this weekend)

2006-11-21 Thread David H. DeWolf
Well said, exactly what I was trying to communicate. I was just hoping that we weren't stuck in the sandbox since that seems like it will prevent an alpha release. David Greg Reddin wrote: On Nov 21, 2006, at 9:15 AM, David H. DeWolf wrote: What I'm more concerned about is the

Re: Releasing Tiles (was: Re: [s2] 2.0.2 release this weekend)

2006-11-21 Thread Antonio Petrelli
Greg Reddin ha scritto: On Nov 21, 2006, at 9:15 AM, David H. DeWolf wrote: What I'm more concerned about is the community/oversight. How will Tiles 2 be accepted when compared with Sitemesh, etc? I don't know. The JSF community has Facelets and Clay, so Tiles support is more of a

Re: Releasing Tiles (was: Re: [s2] 2.0.2 release this weekend)

2006-11-21 Thread Ted Husted
On 11/21/06, David H. DeWolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thoughts? The key question is whether there are at least three (3) active committers who are using Tiles in their own projects and could vote +1 for GA release, should the build quality warrant. When making the tally, we should keep in

Re: Releasing Tiles (was: Re: [s2] 2.0.2 release this weekend)

2006-11-21 Thread Martin Cooper
On 11/20/06, Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/20/06, David H. DeWolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about getting an initial tiles release out so that the 2.0.2 tiles plugin can rely upon it instead of a snapshot? It would probably only be 'alpha' quality at this point, but the same