Re: Allow comments and discussion even though an update was pushed to stable

2019-12-10 Thread Robbie Harwood
Fabio Valentini writes: > On Sat, Dec 7, 2019, 17:30 Mattia Verga via devel < > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > >> Il 06/12/19 21:51, Johannes Lips ha scritto: >> >> "Johannes Lips" > >> >> >> >> >> We already have a tool for reporting issues and problems, and it's not >> >> bodhi. If

Re: Allow comments and discussion even though an update was pushed to stable

2019-12-09 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2019-12-08 at 08:51 +, Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > Il 07/12/19 19:32, Adam Williamson ha scritto: > > But we already explained this. Comments on stable updates are not > > primarily for the maintainer, they are for *users*. Users tend to refer > > to Bodhi notes, if anything, more

Re: Allow comments and discussion even though an update was pushed to stable

2019-12-08 Thread Mattia Verga via devel
Il 07/12/19 19:32, Adam Williamson ha scritto: > But we already explained this. Comments on stable updates are not > primarily for the maintainer, they are for *users*. Users tend to refer > to Bodhi notes, if anything, more than maintainers do. > ...and that's exactly the behavior that the change

Re: Allow comments and discussion even though an update was pushed to stable

2019-12-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2019-12-07 at 10:46 -0700, Jerry James wrote: > On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 9:50 AM Fabio Valentini wrote: > > > I'm curious about this. I do get email notifications for all changes and > > comments for all my own bodhi updates plus for every update that I > > commented on. Have you turned

Re: Allow comments and discussion even though an update was pushed to stable

2019-12-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2019-12-07 at 10:46 -0700, Jerry James wrote: > On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 9:50 AM Fabio Valentini wrote: > > > I'm curious about this. I do get email notifications for all changes and > > comments for all my own bodhi updates plus for every update that I > > commented on. Have you turned

Re: Allow comments and discussion even though an update was pushed to stable

2019-12-07 Thread Jerry James
On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 9:50 AM Fabio Valentini wrote: > I'm curious about this. I do get email notifications for all changes and > comments for all my own bodhi updates plus for every update that I > commented on. Have you turned this off, or do you mean to say you're going > to ignore bodhi

Re: Allow comments and discussion even though an update was pushed to stable

2019-12-07 Thread Mattia Verga via devel
Il 07/12/19 17:49, Fabio Valentini ha scritto: > I'm curious about this. I do get email notifications for all changes and > comments for all my own bodhi updates plus for every update that I commented > on. Have you turned this off, or do you mean to say you're going to ignore > bodhi emails?

Re: Allow comments and discussion even though an update was pushed to stable

2019-12-07 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Sat, Dec 7, 2019, 17:30 Mattia Verga via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Il 06/12/19 21:51, Johannes Lips ha scritto: > >> "Johannes Lips" >> > >> > >> We already have a tool for reporting issues and problems, and it's not > >> bodhi. If there's a problem with an already

Re: Allow comments and discussion even though an update was pushed to stable

2019-12-07 Thread Mattia Verga via devel
Il 06/12/19 21:51, Johannes Lips ha scritto: >> "Johannes Lips" > >> >> We already have a tool for reporting issues and problems, and it's not >> bodhi. If there's a problem with an already pushed update, it needs to >> be in bugzilla - where it's actually discoverable - not in bodhi, where >> it

Re: Allow comments and discussion even though an update was pushed to stable

2019-12-06 Thread Kevin Kofler
Fabio Valentini wrote: > Right. So should the default of -3/+3 be changed for "critpath" packages? > They already need 14 days in testing, but they also get orders of > magnitude more feedback, so raising the karma limits to -2/+6 or something > like that sounds reasonable to me. > > On the other

Re: Allow comments and discussion even though an update was pushed to stable

2019-12-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2019-12-06 at 20:51 +, Johannes Lips wrote: > > "Johannes Lips" > > > > > We already have a tool for reporting issues and problems, and it's not > > bodhi. If there's a problem with an already pushed update, it needs to > > be in bugzilla - where it's actually discoverable - not in

Re: Allow comments and discussion even though an update was pushed to stable

2019-12-06 Thread Johannes Lips
> "Johannes Lips" > > We already have a tool for reporting issues and problems, and it's not > bodhi. If there's a problem with an already pushed update, it needs to > be in bugzilla - where it's actually discoverable - not in bodhi, where > it will go nowhere. I am not intending to use bodhi

Re: Allow comments and discussion even though an update was pushed to stable

2019-12-06 Thread Robbie Harwood
"Johannes Lips" writes: > What I found weird is that you can't comment on an update, which is > already pushed to stable. A lot of users are only hit by a bug, once > it reaches stable and then you don't have any possibility to highlight > a bug report or an issue with this update. I would like

Re: Allow comments and discussion even though an update was pushed to stable

2019-12-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2019-12-06 at 06:34 +, Johannes Lips wrote: > Hi all, > > I was recently bit by a bug, which was caused by a mismatch between > texlive-biblatex and biber. The technical side is not so important, > only so much that they need each other in a pretty specific version, > which is not

Fedora mirror selection (was: Allow comments and discussion even though an update was pushed) to stable

2019-12-06 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Friday, 06 December 2019 at 10:57, Petr Pisar wrote: [...] > Maybe DNF could support setting a prefered mirror while still checking > for the latest metadata because in my experience the automatic mirror > selection does not always provide the best performance. (E.g. when > I connected an IPv6

Re: Allow comments and discussion even though an update was pushed to stable

2019-12-06 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2019-12-06, Johannes Lips wrote: > It really depends which mirrors you are using and if you are unlucky > the updates get pushed to stable, before it reaches updates-testing > for you and then again there's nothing to add, once it's pushed. > If you use metalink in your repository

Re: Allow comments and discussion even though an update was pushed to stable

2019-12-06 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Fri, Dec 06, 2019 at 07:51:40AM +0100, Fabio Valentini wrote: >On Fri, Dec 6, 2019, 07:35 Johannes Lips <[1]johannes.l...@gmail.com> >wrote: > > Hi all, > > I was recently bit by a bug, which was caused by a mismatch between > texlive-biblatex and biber. The technical

Re: Allow comments and discussion even though an update was pushed to stable

2019-12-06 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Fri, Dec 6, 2019, 08:46 Mattia Verga via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Il 06/12/19 07:34, Johannes Lips ha scritto: > > Hi all, > > > > I was recently bit by a bug, which was caused by a mismatch between > texlive-biblatex and biber. The technical side is not so important,

Re: Allow comments and discussion even though an update was pushed to stable

2019-12-05 Thread Mattia Verga via devel
Il 06/12/19 07:34, Johannes Lips ha scritto: > Hi all, > > I was recently bit by a bug, which was caused by a mismatch between > texlive-biblatex and biber. The technical side is not so important, only so > much that they need each other in a pretty specific version, which is not > reflected on

Re: Allow comments and discussion even though an update was pushed to stable

2019-12-05 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Fri, Dec 6, 2019, 07:35 Johannes Lips wrote: > Hi all, > > I was recently bit by a bug, which was caused by a mismatch between > texlive-biblatex and biber. The technical side is not so important, only so > much that they need each other in a pretty specific version, which is not > reflected

Allow comments and discussion even though an update was pushed to stable

2019-12-05 Thread Johannes Lips
Hi all, I was recently bit by a bug, which was caused by a mismatch between texlive-biblatex and biber. The technical side is not so important, only so much that they need each other in a pretty specific version, which is not reflected on the rpm level. What I found weird is that you can't