On Wed, 2018-07-18 at 12:51 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2018-07-18 at 08:49 +0200, drago01 wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 18, 2018, Chris Murphy wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 3:53 PM, Adam Williamson
> > > wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 2018-07-17 at 14:48 -0700, Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2018-07-18 at 08:49 +0200, drago01 wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 18, 2018, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 3:53 PM, Adam Williamson
> > wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2018-07-17 at 14:48 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > > I instinctively like the non-split form here because, to
On Wed, 2018-07-18 at 14:56 +, Jeff Johnson wrote:
> There is also historical precedent in open source software for using
> the terms "recommended" and "suggested" rather than "appropriate".
Those have specific meanings in RPM terms which are not at all what the
release criterion is about. It
There is also historical precedent in open source software for using the terms
"recommended" and "suggested" rather than "appropriate".
Installing/upgrading licensed software is never appropriate.
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On Wednesday, July 18, 2018, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 3:53 PM, Adam Williamson
> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2018-07-17 at 14:48 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> >> I instinctively like the non-split form here because, to me, it
> >> emphasizes more clearly that "appropriately"
On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 3:53 PM, Adam Williamson
wrote:
> On Tue, 2018-07-17 at 14:48 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> I instinctively like the non-split form here because, to me, it
>> emphasizes more clearly that "appropriately" applies to all three
>> actions.
>
> To be clearer here, consider
On Tue, 2018-07-17 at 14:48 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> I instinctively like the non-split form here because, to me, it
> emphasizes more clearly that "appropriately" applies to all three
> actions.
To be clearer here, consider these options:
"...to appropriately install, remove and
On Tue, 2018-07-17 at 15:09 -0600, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote:
> On Mon, 2018-07-16 at 17:32 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> >
> > Basic:
> >
> > "The installed system must be able appropriately to install, remove,
> > and update software with the default console tool for the relevant
> >
On Mon, 2018-07-16 at 17:32 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> Basic:
>
> "The installed system must be able appropriately to install, remove,
> and update software with the default console tool for the relevant
> software type (e.g. default console package manager). This includes
> downloading
On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 11:05 AM, Adam Williamson
wrote:
> On Tue, 2018-07-17 at 16:39 +, Jeff Johnson wrote:
>> Try "expected" rather than "appropriately"
>
> I think I prefer "appropriately". "Expected" only begs the question
> "what does that mean?" even more: expected by whom? (It also
On Tue, 2018-07-17 at 16:39 +, Jeff Johnson wrote:
> Try "expected" rather than "appropriately"
I think I prefer "appropriately". "Expected" only begs the question
"what does that mean?" even more: expected by whom? (It also doesn't
fit into the current grammatical structure of the draft,
Try "expected" rather than "appropriately"
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On ma, 16 heinä 2018, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Thu, 2018-06-14 at 17:31 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Thu, 2018-06-14 at 19:25 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 03:47:25PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > There's a footnote explaining that already:
>
> Ah, that clears
On Thu, 2018-06-14 at 17:31 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2018-06-14 at 19:25 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 03:47:25PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > There's a footnote explaining that already:
> >
> > Ah, that clears it up. Thanks :)
> >
> > > as
On Thu, 2018-06-14 at 19:25 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 03:47:25PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > There's a footnote explaining that already:
>
> Ah, that clears it up. Thanks :)
>
> > as explained there, we actually *specifically* added this wording
> > because
On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 03:47:25PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> There's a footnote explaining that already:
Ah, that clears it up. Thanks :)
> as explained there, we actually *specifically* added this wording
> because there was a bug with packages from modules being selected as
> updates
On Thu, 2018-06-14 at 11:48 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 09:56:07AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > "The installed system must be able to install, remove, and update
> > > software with the default console tool for the relevant software type
> > > (e.g. default
On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 09:56:07AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > "The installed system must be able to install, remove, and update
> > software with the default console tool for the relevant software type
> > (e.g. default console package manager). This includes downloading of
> > packages to
On Wed, 2018-06-13 at 12:56 -0700, stan wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 09:56:07 -0700
> Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 2018-06-12 at 21:51 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 11:35:21AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > > "The installed system must be able to
On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 09:56:07 -0700
Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2018-06-12 at 21:51 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 11:35:21AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > "The installed system must be able to install, remove, and install
> > > appropriate updates for
On Tue, 2018-06-12 at 21:51 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 11:35:21AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > "The installed system must be able to install, remove, and install
> > appropriate updates for software with the default console tool for the
> > relevant software type
On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 11:35:21AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> "The installed system must be able to install, remove, and install
> appropriate updates for software with the default console tool for the
> relevant software type (e.g. default console package manager). This
> includes
On Tue, 2018-06-12 at 22:02 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 12:03:51PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Tue, 2018-06-12 at 20:55 +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> > > On 12.6.2018 20:35, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > > "The installed system must be able to
On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 12:03:51PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2018-06-12 at 20:55 +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> > On 12.6.2018 20:35, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > "The installed system must be able to install, remove, and install
> >
> > Install, remove and update?
>
> That would be
On Tue, 2018-06-12 at 20:55 +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> On 12.6.2018 20:35, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > "The installed system must be able to install, remove, and install
>
> Install, remove and update?
That would be simpler but unfortunately loses the "appropriate"
wording, which is important.
On 12.6.2018 20:35, Adam Williamson wrote:
"The installed system must be able to install, remove, and install
Install, remove and update?
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Hi, folks!
It's been noted a few times before that we have a release criterion
that requires *updating* packages (or, these days, 'software', to cover
things like modules) to work...but we don't have criteria covering
other basic software management tasks, notably installing and removing.
There
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