Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On 05/02/2018 07:18 PM, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > On Wed, May 02, 2018 at 04:04:11PM +0100, Naheem Zaffar wrote: >> Looking at Nextcloud releases, it seems that they do a major release once a >> year. >> >> It should be possible to catch up with the upstream even if there is a >> single update per

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On Wed, May 02, 2018 at 04:04:11PM +0100, Naheem Zaffar wrote: > Looking at Nextcloud releases, it seems that they do a major release once a > year. > > It should be possible to catch up with the upstream even if there is a > single update per Fedora release. > > Update to Nextcloud 11 in Fedora

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

Looking at Nextcloud releases, it seems that they do a major release once a year. It should be possible to catch up with the upstream even if there is a single update per Fedora release. Update to Nextcloud 11 in Fedora 27, 12 in current Fedora 28 and then in Fedora 29 cath up with upstream.

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On 05/02/2018 05:52 PM, James Hogarth wrote: On 2 May 2018 at 12:11, Marek Greško wrote: Randy, it is the same with nextcloud. To keep people up to date ... I figured I'd do owncloud first as that looked a simple single version jump ... There was much pain that

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On 2 May 2018 at 12:11, Marek Greško wrote: > Randy, it is the same with nextcloud. > To keep people up to date ... I figured I'd do owncloud first as that looked a simple single version jump ... There was much pain that ensued trying to maintain the unbundling of the PHP

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

Randy, it is the same with nextcloud. Marek ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

I fully support such major version bumps during one fedora release. Maybe there could be prepared nextcloud 11 and nextcloud 12 packages in several weeks steps, not fully functional, just upgrading database to have consistent upgrade path to version 13 then. Since nextcloud 10 is not working

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On Tue, 2018-05-01 at 21:19 +, mark preston wrote: > i remember OC being very protective of their stream and not working > well with others to get it in other distributions. I was an oC user > that switch to nC and still running V10. I've been waiting for an > update to nC and would like to

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

i remember OC being very protective of their stream and not working well with others to get it in other distributions. I was an oC user that switch to nC and still running V10. I've been waiting for an update to nC and would like to stay with it even if i have to upgrade though 11 and 12 to

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 12:07 PM Przemek Klosowski < przemek.klosow...@nist.gov> wrote: > On 04/04/2018 02:53 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > On F28 > > `dnf install php:8/server` (Assuming there's a profile called "server" > > with the packages one would need to use PHP in a server context) > >

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On 04/04/2018 02:53 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: On F28 `dnf install php:8/server` (Assuming there's a profile called "server" with the packages one would need to use PHP in a server context) On F29, if you have the php:7 module enabled in F28, an upgrade will not switch this on you. If it's

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

Il 04/04/2018 22:49, James Hogarth ha scritto: > On Wed, 4 Apr 2018, 20:26 Adam Williamson, > wrote: > > On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 11:15 +0100, James Hogarth wrote: > > On 4 April 2018 at 11:01, David Sommerseth

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 4:53 PM James Hogarth wrote: > On Wed, 4 Apr 2018, 19:54 Stephen Gallagher, wrote: > >> >> On F28 >> `dnf install php:8/server` (Assuming there's a profile called "server" >> with the packages one would need to use PHP in a

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On Wed, 4 Apr 2018, 19:54 Stephen Gallagher, wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 2:36 PM Przemek Klosowski < > przemek.klosow...@nist.gov> wrote: > >> On 04/04/2018 01:59 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> > The short version is that Modules *are* distribution packages. They're

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On Wed, 4 Apr 2018, 20:26 Adam Williamson, wrote: > On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 11:15 +0100, James Hogarth wrote: > > On 4 April 2018 at 11:01, David Sommerseth wrote: > > > On 03/04/18 21:00, Christian Glombek wrote: > > > > I should probably add that

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On Wed, 4 Apr 2018, 18:39 Kevin Fenzi, wrote: > On 04/04/2018 07:51 AM, James Hogarth wrote: > ...snip... > > Today I've spent time between $realwork getting my ansible plays > > updated to handle F28 (thanks for dropping python2-* early guys!) and > > have been in contact with

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 17:55 +0200, Mattia Verga wrote: > Il 04/04/2018 17:26, Randy Barlow ha scritto: > > Another thought on this topic: > > > > It's probably a lot of work to maintain OwnCloud and NextCloud, and it > > sounds like a lot of people have moved to NextCloud or intend to in the > >

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 11:07 -0400, Randy Barlow wrote: > On 04/03/2018 07:02 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Tue, 2018-04-03 at 15:25 -0400, Randy Barlow wrote: > > > One question comes to mind though - won't this be a problem in the > > > future too? How can we guarantee that users can keep

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 11:15 +0100, James Hogarth wrote: > On 4 April 2018 at 11:01, David Sommerseth wrote: > > On 03/04/18 21:00, Christian Glombek wrote: > > > I should probably add that the actual updater program has not been > > > shipped in the rpms thus far. Although I'm

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 2:36 PM Przemek Klosowski wrote: > On 04/04/2018 01:59 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > The short version is that Modules *are* distribution packages. They're > > just distribution packages that allow you to pick which major release > > stream

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On 04/04/2018 01:59 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: The short version is that Modules *are* distribution packages. They're just distribution packages that allow you to pick which major release stream you want to stay on. We also have a distribution-level defaults setup that allows you to pick one

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 12:59 PM Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 04.04.2018 um 17:36 schrieb Stephen Gallagher: > > Hopefully this will become easier once we get the PHP maintainers to > > move over to building Fedora Modules. Then we can decouple the PHP > > updates from

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 12:05 PM James Hogarth wrote: > On Wed, 4 Apr 2018, 16:37 Stephen Gallagher, wrote: > >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 11:34 AM James Hogarth >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 4 Apr 2018, 15:59 Reindl

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On 04/04/2018 07:51 AM, James Hogarth wrote: ...snip... > Today I've spent time between $realwork getting my ansible plays > updated to handle F28 (thanks for dropping python2-* early guys!) and > have been in contact with lorbus (thanks for stepping up). Note that if you mean ansible dropping

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On Wed, 4 Apr 2018, 16:37 Stephen Gallagher, wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 11:34 AM James Hogarth > wrote: > >> >> >> On Wed, 4 Apr 2018, 15:59 Reindl Harald, wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Am 04.04.2018 um 16:51 schrieb James

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On Wed, 4 Apr 2018, 16:51 William Moreno, wrote: > > > 2018-04-04 9:43 GMT-06:00 Randy Barlow : > >> On 04/04/2018 11:37 AM, William Moreno wrote: >> > A well documented setp can help users to move from OC to NC. >> >> James

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

Il 04/04/2018 17:26, Randy Barlow ha scritto: Another thought on this topic: It's probably a lot of work to maintain OwnCloud and NextCloud, and it sounds like a lot of people have moved to NextCloud or intend to in the future. Would it help if we went ahead and retired OwnCloud so we could

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

2018-04-04 9:43 GMT-06:00 Randy Barlow : > On 04/04/2018 11:37 AM, William Moreno wrote: > > A well documented setp can help users to move from OC to NC. > > James actually wrote a nice blog post about migration: > > https://www.hogarthuk.com/?q=node/17 > > James are

Re: Local test VMs (was: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud)

On Wed, 4 Apr 2018, 16:11 Tim Landscheidt, wrote: > James Hogarth wrote: > > > […] > > > FIrst thing when I fired up my test harness was that F28 has changed, > > and thus broken, kickstart for the user option compared to a standard > > minimal

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On 04/04/2018 11:37 AM, William Moreno wrote: > A well documented setp can help users to move from OC to NC. James actually wrote a nice blog post about migration: https://www.hogarthuk.com/?q=node/17 ___ devel mailing list --

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

2018-04-04 8:51 GMT-06:00 James Hogarth : > On 4 April 2018 at 14:48, William Moreno > wrote: > > > > > > 2018-04-03 13:11 GMT-06:00 Stephen Gallagher : > >> > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 3:01 PM Christian

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 11:34 AM James Hogarth wrote: > > > On Wed, 4 Apr 2018, 15:59 Reindl Harald, wrote: > >> >> >> Am 04.04.2018 um 16:51 schrieb James Hogarth: >> > Last bit to debug before I can start testing an update of OC and NC is >> >

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On Wed, 4 Apr 2018, 16:27 Randy Barlow, wrote: > Another thought on this topic: > > It's probably a lot of work to maintain OwnCloud and NextCloud, and it > sounds like a lot of people have moved to NextCloud or intend to in the > future. Would it help if we went

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On Wed, 4 Apr 2018, 15:59 Reindl Harald, wrote: > > > Am 04.04.2018 um 16:51 schrieb James Hogarth: > > Last bit to debug before I can start testing an update of OC and NC is > > why my automated setup explodes with: > > > > PHP Fatal error: Declaration of > >

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

Another thought on this topic: It's probably a lot of work to maintain OwnCloud and NextCloud, and it sounds like a lot of people have moved to NextCloud or intend to in the future. Would it help if we went ahead and retired OwnCloud so we could focus on just one of the two to reduce the burden?

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On 04/04/2018 06:08 AM, James Hogarth wrote: > How about emailing me and asking what you can do to help? > > I've really had no help on this (outside of Shawn and Remi getting > dependencies packaged on occasion) since I took this over from AdamW > way back. > > There's always lots of noise

Local test VMs (was: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud)

James Hogarth wrote: > […] > FIrst thing when I fired up my test harness was that F28 has changed, > and thus broken, kickstart for the user option compared to a standard > minimal that worked going back to F22 and EL7 so that had to be > debugged and fixed ... done >

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On 04/04/2018 09:48 AM, William Moreno wrote: > +1 should be a nice changes for the F29 release.  Since OwnCloud is completely broken on F28 right now (not sure about NextCloud, but it might be as well), it could be nice to do for F28 as well. ___ devel

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On 04/03/2018 07:02 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2018-04-03 at 15:25 -0400, Randy Barlow wrote: >> One question comes to mind though - won't this be a problem in the >> future too? How can we guarantee that users can keep upgrading to 14, >> 15, 16, etc. since Fedora doesn't keep

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On 4 April 2018 at 14:48, William Moreno wrote: > > > 2018-04-03 13:11 GMT-06:00 Stephen Gallagher : >> >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 3:01 PM Christian Glombek >> wrote: >>> >>> I should probably add that the

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

2018-04-03 13:11 GMT-06:00 Stephen Gallagher : > > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 3:01 PM Christian Glombek > wrote: > >> I should probably add that the actual updater program has not been >> shipped in the rpms thus far. Although I'm not sure how this

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On 4 April 2018 at 11:01, David Sommerseth wrote: > On 03/04/18 21:00, Christian Glombek wrote: >> I should probably add that the actual updater program has not been shipped >> in the rpms thus far. Although I'm not sure how this affects major updates, >> it is leading to

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On 4 April 2018 at 08:38, Benson Muite wrote: > >> >> So, I don't think we can update the package from 10 to 13, thus breaking >> all user installations. >> >> I see 2 possible way >> >> The classical one >> >> - create nextcloud11, nextcloud12 and nextcloud13 packages

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On 03/04/18 21:00, Christian Glombek wrote: > I should probably add that the actual updater program has not been shipped in > the rpms thus far. Although I'm not sure how this affects major updates, it > is leading to problems elsewhere (i.e. people have to uninstall some apps on > v13 and

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

So, I don't think we can update the package from 10 to 13, thus breaking all user installations. I see 2 possible way The classical one - create nextcloud11, nextcloud12 and nextcloud13 packages and also future versions, older can be removed when EOLed by upstream (so nextcloud +

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On Tue, 2018-04-03 at 19:00 +, Christian Glombek wrote: > And how many people actually still run NC v10? FWIW, I have a nextcloud 10 setup on a Fedora 27 server. I have no problems with major version updates within a Fedora release, but my expectation was that Fedora was keeping it updated.

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

Le 03/04/2018 à 19:44, Dennis Gilmore a écrit : > El mar, 03-04-2018 a las 17:07 +, Stephen Gallagher escribió: >> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 12:39 PM Christian Glombek > .de> wrote: >>> Hello! >>> >>> I'd be happy to maintain NextCloud!I have already done the >>> packaging

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

I notice upstream offers VM, Docker and Snap downloads prominently, for server. But they also offer the client as flatpak: https://help.nextcloud.com/t/linux-packages-status/10216 I didn't spend much time looking but was unable to find v10 and v11 VM's as maybe an easy way to upgrade from v10 to

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

Totally agreed. I'd expect having streams for each major would somewhat mitigate this. Adam Williamson schrieb am Mi., 4. Apr. 2018 um 01:02 Uhr: > On Tue, 2018-04-03 at 15:25 -0400, Randy Barlow wrote: > > One question comes to mind though - won't this be a problem

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On Tue, 2018-04-03 at 15:25 -0400, Randy Barlow wrote: > One question comes to mind though - won't this be a problem in the > future too? How can we guarantee that users can keep upgrading to 14, > 15, 16, etc. since Fedora doesn't keep in-between updates in the repos? When I maintained ownCloud,

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

I'm definitely a fan of modules and streams! I'm also a fan of not having to package v11 and v12 ;) Recently, I've made some non-code PRs to NextCloud in order to streamline their dependency declarations & mgmt in general (see https://github.com/nextcloud/server/issues/8555 & ref'd PRs). It used

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On 04/03/2018 03:11 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > Given the current status, I suggest you just ask FESCo to give you > permission to release 13.x without supporting upgrades from 10.x and > then submit a Magazine article explaining the situation once 13.x is > landing. I would support this

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 3:01 PM Christian Glombek wrote: > I should probably add that the actual updater program has not been shipped > in the rpms thus far. Although I'm not sure how this affects major updates, > it is leading to problems elsewhere (i.e. people have to

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 3:00 PM, Christian Glombek wrote: > I should probably add that the actual updater program has not been shipped in > the rpms thus far. Although I'm not sure how this affects major updates, it > is leading to problems elsewhere (i.e. people have

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

I should probably add that the actual updater program has not been shipped in the rpms thus far. Although I'm not sure how this affects major updates, it is leading to problems elsewhere (i.e. people have to uninstall some apps on v13 and re-install them on v13.0.1 for them to work again). And

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

Yup, that, essentially. Some deps that are needed for these versions are already outdated and have newer, incompatible versions in the Fedora rpm repos. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

El mar, 03-04-2018 a las 17:07 +, Stephen Gallagher escribió: > On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 12:39 PM Christian Glombek .de> wrote: > > Hello! > > > > I'd be happy to maintain NextCloud!I have already done the > > packaging work for NC v13 and v13.0.1, and various

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 12:39 PM Christian Glombek wrote: > Hello! > > I'd be happy to maintain NextCloud! > I have already done the packaging work for NC v13 and v13.0.1, and various > dependencies. > Unfortunately there is no upgrade path from the EOL'd v10 rpm that is

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

For reference: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1433919 https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/nextcloud/pull-request/3 ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

Hello! I'd be happy to maintain NextCloud! I have already done the packaging work for NC v13 and v13.0.1, and various dependencies. Unfortunately there is no upgrade path from the EOL'd v10 rpm that is in Fedora right now, which seems to be somewhat of a blocker. I'd happily support upgrades from

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On 04/03/2018 09:19 AM, David Sommerseth wrote: > Here's some traces ... > Ah, well it sounds like it's happy news at least ☺ ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On 03/04/18 15:13, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 1:51 PM, Randy Barlow > wrote: >> Greetings! >> >> It seems that OwnCloud and NextCloud might be unmaintained in Fedora. I >> found that upgrading my F27 box to F28 causes it to be unable to login: >

Re: Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 1:51 PM, Randy Barlow wrote: > Greetings! > > It seems that OwnCloud and NextCloud might be unmaintained in Fedora. I > found that upgrading my F27 box to F28 causes it to be unable to login: I think the old maintainer did a blog post about

Status of OwnCloud/NextCloud

Greetings! It seems that OwnCloud and NextCloud might be unmaintained in Fedora. I found that upgrading my F27 box to F28 causes it to be unable to login: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1562949 There are also CVEs open: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1472720