John:
Do the rules specify that there is no baudrate limit upon FDM modes?
The fact that they are mentioned does not necessarily imply that they are not
intended to fall under the 300 baud restriction.
For several years now, PACTOR III emissions have been responsible for thousands
opf QSO's
From: John Bradley jbrad...@sasktel.net
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 Time: 16:30:53
Moderator since there are only a couple of members carrying on this
lengthy dialogue, could I respectfully suggest they take thisprivate,
so as to not QRM everyone?s mailbox?
Hello Moderator,
There may be only a
We have had few new people join this group after the QST article on RS ID.
Since many of them are NEW to digital modes other than RTTY or PSK31... I
thought I would challenge the people who have not ventured away from PSK31 or
RTTY to try a task this weekend. Three QSOs in three different
So noted.
Andy K3UK
Hello Moderator,
There may be only a couple of people conducting this thread at the
moment, but it's interesting stuff that is *directly relevant* to the
digitalradio group.
Please let it continue unhindered!
Thank you.
--
73
Ian, G3NRW
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:10
Baud rate is baud rate, i.e. symbol change. There is nothing in the
regulations about how much the symbol can change.
Packet and RTTY uses two tones. PKS31 uses one. By your argument Packet and
RTTY should be banned because their symbol change is larger than PSK31s.
- 73 -
Rud Merriam K5RUD
A simple understanding of props: Station A listens, and hearing nothing on
the band, normally sends a quick QRZ?, and if no one responds, figures he can
go ahead and transmit a signal/CQ or whatever. Station B hears that, and
responds to station A. Now with both stations manned, they both
Hi all
Anyone qrv on 20m ?
I am testing the Message ID in Patrick's latest beta of the
MULTIPSK (VERSION 4.16 of 27/10/2009) on 14.074.
Hope to see you in the waterfall .
73 de LA5VNA Steinar
Andy, Im running fldigi 3.13AU but I cant find PSK500 on the list where can I
find it, for PSKmail... On my puppy mail server is working, I just completed
testing makeing sure it can pass emails.. Now on to PSK500 mode ?
Russell
1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a
That sounds like fun! I've tried Feld Hell, MFSK16 and MT63, but not the other
two. - I'll make it a point to try them out this weekend.
73 DE Charles Brabham, N5PVL
Prefer to use radio for your amateur radio communications? - Stop by at
HamRadioNet.Org !
http://www.hamradionet.org
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Rud:
Note that I didn't make an arguement, I asked a question.
By your arguement, Packet should be allowed to operate at 600 baud - but guess
what?
73 DE Charles Brabham, N5PVL
Prefer to use radio for your amateur radio communications? - Stop by at
HamRadioNet.Org !
No, Packet can't operate at more than 300 baud. Nothing on HF can exceed 300
baud. I didn't argue this implicitly or explicitly.
You made the argument implicitly.
- 73 -
Rud Merriam K5RUD
ARES AEC Montgomery County, TX
http://mysticlakesoftware.com/
-Original Message-
From:
Jeff:
I watched a WinLink station knock four stations off of the air yesterday. I
have dozens of screen-captures of waterfall displays, showing WinLink stations
crashing up to five QSOs at once. It happens every day, and is easy to document.
You looked once, and didn't see anything.
You can
Danny:
I think you forgot about the automated sub-bands. They've been there for close
to thirty years, now.
If station A operates in the regular frequencies and avoids the rather narrow
slivers of automated sub-bands outlined in PART97, then the chances of station
A being interfered with by a
Hi Russel,
Its not on 3.13AU, there is a patched version with PSK500 but it wasnt there on
AU from the start.
I guess AZ is the latest now and its on there (its what I run here).
73 de Per, sm0rwo
From: Russell Blair russell_blai...@yahoo.com
To: Digital
Tnx Per well 3.13AU is whats in my puppy mail CD. Ok thanks for the info.
Russell
1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door!
2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to
take everything you have.
- Thomas Jefferson
IN GOD
I think one of the prtoblems is that those narrow subbands where auto stations
are allowed, do not mean that other stations are NOT allowed. I know that I
personnaly do not remember exactly wehre those are, since I dont work the mode.
I look at the chart here and see that I am allowed
Steinar,
I am testing the Message ID in Patrick's latest beta of the
MULTIPSK (VERSION 4.16 of 27/10/2009) on 14.074.
I haven't had the opportunity to use the message ID on-the-air, but I did test
the mode between two PC's and it seems to work fine.
I would assume the Reed Solomon
Tony
The file is very small (12kb) but it will take abut 60min to send it
over to you. I think I will abort..
la5vna Steinar
Tony wrote:
Steinar,
I am testing the Message ID in Patrick's latest beta of the
MULTIPSK (VERSION 4.16 of 27/10/2009) on 14.074.
I haven't had the
Use a serial port . not lpt . and surely not the 15pole connection . this is
for your monitor
You find the serial port at the backside and it is 9 pole in two rows . one
with 4 and one with 5
If you have no serial port (only usb) there are several usb-serial
transformers available for a few
Hello to all,
For information about the subject (Message ID), here is a mail transmitted
to the Multipsk Yahoo group.
73
Patrick
***
Hello to all testers,
There was a bug on the last test version, so I re-send the mail.
Some
I think I lost you Tony :( . No signal at all here.
la5vna Steinar
It is really nice to see how well multipsk works under weak conditions
la5vna Steinar
Steinar Aanesland wrote:
Tony
The file is very small (12kb) but it will take abut 60min to send it
over to you. I think I will abort..
la5vna Steinar
Tony wrote:
Steinar,
I am
Hi Patrick
I tested Message ID with Tony -K2MO now . It works great!
la5vna Steinar
Patrick Lindecker wrote:
Hello to all,
For information about the subject (Message ID), here is a mail transmitted
to the Multipsk Yahoo group.
73
Patrick
TonyThe file is very small (12kb) but it will take abut 60min to send it
over to you. I think I will abort..
Understand Steinar - lost you in the noise. Managed to received 23% of the
file. The RS messaging came through fine. See attached.
First ALE-400 QSO with the U.S.?
Tony -K2MO
What qrg?
_
Von: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] Im
Auftrag von Steinar Aanesland
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. Oktober 2009 20:37
An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: Re: [digitalradio] Message ID in multipsk
Hi Patrick
I tested Message
Yes, it is my first ALE-400 QSO with the U.S , and I hope it is not the last
one. This is a great mode;)
la5vna Steinar
Tony wrote:
TonyThe file is very small (12kb) but it will take abut 60min to send it
over to you. I think I will abort..
Understand Steinar - lost you in the
Hi Siegfried
14.074 but 20m seems to be dead now here up in the north :(
la5vna Steinar
Siegfried Jackstien wrote:
What qrg?
Yep
it´s dark outside
so highbands are closed
_
Von: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] Im
Auftrag von Steinar Aanesland
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. Oktober 2009 20:51
An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: Re: AW: [digitalradio] Message ID in
Or you can try SSTV on 20m : 14.230 MHz USB
My SSTV cam is stand by 24/7: http://www.pd4u.nl/sstv.php
Marc, PD4U
Hello Tony,
The Call ID that I just have slightly modified is based on a specific RS ID
code (it was the most simple, but it is not a mode ID, just a borrowing) on
which is implemented a more conventional frame (56 bits + CRC). The RS ID is
detectable at -16 dB but the Call ID only at about
Hello Daniel,
In the Multipsk package (http://f6cte.free.fr), you have a file which name is
RS232_EN.doc. It shows how to connect a RS232 9 pins port. It will give you
idea. LPT port is not very used because it's not very easy to control from
Windows (from DOS it was easy, by addressing
The baud rate limit applies but this means 300 symbol changes per second on
each subcarrier. The number of subcarriers and the number of bits per
subcarrier is not limited. The ARRL regulation by bandwidth proposal was a
better method than the current regulation by content rules but was opposed
Maybe I am growing a little bit confused here .
As I follow this thread, am I hearing that there is a flat limit of 300 baud in
all aspects of amateur radio?
First, can't we use 1200 baud in certain cases, such as above 2 meters?
Second, how do we correlate the 300 baud limit when we use
According to the terms of our licenses, each of us is supposed to have read and
understood part 97 of the FCC rules and regulations. Here's a summary of the
upper limits for RTTY/data emissions in 97.305 and 97.307 as I read it:
1.8-24.99 MHz: 300 baud with 1 kHz shift or facsimile with 500 Hz
What? No THOR?! ;-)
philw de ka1gmn
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:31 AM, obrienaj k3uka...@gmail.com wrote:
We have had few new people join this group after the QST article on RS ID.
Since many of them are NEW to digital modes other than RTTY or PSK31... I
thought I would challenge the people
I would recommend FeldHell also.
KT
K8YZK
--- On Thu, 10/29/09, Phil Williams ka1...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Phil Williams ka1...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] New to digital modes? Try this weekend's challenge
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 7:13 PM
Patrick,
Thanks for adding the messaging feature. Andy, K3UK, and I were able to copy
Sholto's, RS messages some 3700km away on 20 meters. Sholto, K7TMG, was running
5 watts and a vertical antenna. We found the high sensitivity of the message
mode useful as signals fell below the decode
So sorry John .
of course you are right .
we were supposed to have read and understood the contents of part 97 .
I guess I must have forgotten the part that demanded we also memorize it
verbatim with all it's technical terms and specs. I must be the one to admit
it, I am the
Well, not an apples to apples test.. but Ron NY3J and I played for
quite a while with FLARQ tonight on 80M and 40. 80M was was in poor
shape with QRN and weak signals but we managed a few slow MFSK16 email
transfers. We then switched to 40M and I received Ron about S5, he
was 200 miles away.
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