Re: [digitalradio] Re: A new Mode !

2010-02-19 Thread David Boniface
I have installed the program after using WinRAR to open the archive. However, when trying to run the program I get this error message Run-time error '53': File not found: Switch(16638-29712).ocx I am using Vista 32 bit English OS Any advice would be welcome. Thanks David JG1CYJ

Re: [digitalradio] Re: A new Mode !

2010-02-19 Thread Andy obrien
When you unpacked the files, there should be a file (switch16638, etc) in the OCX folder. On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 2:58 AM, David Boniface bonifac...@yahoo.comwrote: I have installed the program after using WinRAR to open the archive. However, when trying to run the program I get this error

Re: [digitalradio] A new Mode !

2010-02-19 Thread Dave Ackrill
Hurray! Got it working this morning. :-) Dave (G0DJA)

Re: [digitalradio] Re: A new Mode !

2010-02-19 Thread Dave Ackrill
David Boniface wrote: I have installed the program after using WinRAR to open the archive. However, when trying to run the program I get this error message Run-time error '53': File not found: Switch(16638-29712).ocx I got the Runtime error until I extracted the files to their own folder

[digitalradio] Re: Vista Run-time error - with new mode

2010-02-19 Thread Tony
David, I have installed the program after using WinRAR to open the archive. However, when trying to run the program I get this error message Run-time error '53': File not found: Switch(16638-29712).ocx I am using Vista 32 bit English OS David JG1CYJ I'm getting the same error message with

Re: [digitalradio] Re: A new Mode !

2010-02-19 Thread Dave Ackrill
nietorosdj wrote: Hi, tomorrow i will change PTT from COM1 to COM6, but i dont know if it'll run. Does any one know if it is possible to make the soundcard selectable and increase the options for the COM port? I use a US Interface Navigator, and computer control is on COM3 with PTT on

Re: [digitalradio] Re: A new Mode !

2010-02-19 Thread Toby Burnett
I am listening and cqing on 14.080mhz USB (dial frequency) Any one else there. Also suggested frequencies please so we can all monitor the same. I.e. What best for inter G etc on 7mhz / 3mhz etc Looks interesting though. Another though, what is the best input volume, the waterfall doesn't seem

RE: [digitalradio] Re: A new Mode !

2010-02-19 Thread Giedrius, LY2CG
Some minutes before I had a QSO in ROS mode on 14080 with Dan, YO4CVV... Giedrius, LY2CG

Re: [digitalradio] Re: A new Mode !

2010-02-19 Thread Dave Ackrill
Giedrius, LY2CG wrote: Some minutes before I had a QSO in ROS mode on 14080 with Dan, YO4CVV... Giedrius, LY2CG I'm listening at the moment but there's a loud RTTY signal just above 14.080MHz. Until I find my old home made opto coupler/audio isolator, I wont be able to transmit as I cant set

[digitalradio] Re: A new Mode !

2010-02-19 Thread nietorosdj
Hi, With the New Version 1.6.2 you can select from COM1 to COM6. For the future versions, i will make soundcard selectable, no problem. Thank you all for testing ROS. I hear your suggestions. --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Dave Ackrill dave.g0...@... wrote: nietorosdj wrote: Hi,

RE: [digitalradio] Re: A new Mode !

2010-02-19 Thread Giedrius, LY2CG
Dave, I am am working without COM, using DIGI VOX in my FT-897... Hope to meet you soon on this mode!... 73 - Giedrius

[digitalradio] First ROS reception : NC50

2010-02-19 Thread Andy obrien
RX: 09:55 UTC -23.4 Hz. CQ NC5O EM12PX STOP 7065 LSB

[digitalradio] QRV 14080 ROS

2010-02-19 Thread Andy obrien
Dial frequency 14080 USB ... ROS 16 and 1. Andy K3UK

Re: [digitalradio] Re: A new Mode !

2010-02-19 Thread Dave Ackrill
nietorosdj wrote: Hi, With the New Version 1.6.2 you can select from COM1 to COM6. For the future versions, i will make soundcard selectable, no problem. Thank you all for testing ROS. I hear your suggestions. Thank you for that update, will save me going through my junk box looking

Re: [digitalradio] QRV 14080 ROS

2010-02-19 Thread Sean Gilbert, International Editor - WRTH
I'm now monitoring for ROS 14080 USB, hearing WB2LMV now (1316)     73 de Sean Gilbert, G4UCJ - G4001SWL Buckingham, Bucks. IO92MA Email: sean.gilb...@o2.co.uk Web: http://www.hfradio.org.uk RX: IC756PRO, CI-V, SEM Multifilter RX2: Racal RA1792 ANT 1: Wellbrook ALA1530+ @ 3m agl

Re: [digitalradio] Re: A new Mode !

2010-02-19 Thread Sean Gilbert, International Editor - WRTH
Hi Dave, He was talking to WB2LMV, I got the ...deWB2LMV TU Dr Vincente mucholeuste and then it went downhill rapidly. 73 Sean ---Original Message--- From: Dave Ackrill Date: 19/02/2010 13:19:16 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: A new Mode !

Re: [digitalradio] QRV 14080 ROS

2010-02-19 Thread Sean Gilbert, International Editor - WRTH
1335 can see Andy, K3UK CQing on 14080 ROS (it says -29.3Hz), so far I have not actually seen a signal on the waterfall. Using the RA1792 and loop for this (as that is hooked up to the default soundcard, the Icom is on a USB soundcard doing PSK. No TX from here, so will have to just send out

Re: [digitalradio] QRV 14080 ROS

2010-02-19 Thread Andy obrien
Great, many thanks for the report from Bucks. On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Sean Gilbert, International Editor - WRTH sean.gilb...@o2.co.uk wrote: 1335 can see Andy, K3UK CQing on 14080 ROS (it says -29.3Hz), so far I have not actually seen a signal on the waterfall. Using the RA1792

[digitalradio] ROS: Works well ! 1st QSO

2010-02-19 Thread Andy obrien
RX: 13:49 UTC 23.4 Hz. CQ CQ CQ de KB5OZE KB5OZE KB5OZE pse k STOP TX 13:50 UTC KB5OZE KB5OZE de K3UK K3UK K3UK kn STOP RX: 13:50 UTC 23.4 Hz. K3UK DE KB5OZE WORKS WITH vox btu STOP TX 13:51 UTC Great, strong here in NY. BTU de k3uk STOP RX: 13:51 UTC 23.4 Hz. tHANKS CONSIDERING THAT i AM

[digitalradio] ROS notification: KB5OZE has received your Radio Message

2010-02-19 Thread Andy obrien
FYI, this is how the auto notification works. Andy K3UK -- Forwarded message -- From: rosmo...@gmail.com Date: Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 8:33 AM Subject: ROS notification: KB5OZE has received your Radio Message To: k3uka...@gmail.com ** Please don't reply to this email

[digitalradio] ROS

2010-02-19 Thread Glenn L. Roeser
I just had my first QSO using ROS with Vicente (EA1GIH) ...Thank you Vicente!!! I am really impressed with this new mode. My wish is for it to have an over button so that after the text is typed I would be able to press the over button. The over button would place the other stations call + my

Re: [digitalradio] Re: A new Mode !

2010-02-19 Thread Dave Ackrill
Just got back in and found the following lines on the screen... RX: 13:41 UTC -46.9 Hz. iQ CQ CQ de YO4Ctp³;O4CVV YO4CVV pse k STOP RX: 13:50 UTC -7.8 Hz. CQ CQ CQ de WB2LMV WB2LMV WB2LMV pse k STOP So the RX side seems to be working. I'll see if I can put out a few CQs of my own later. It

Re: [digitalradio] Re: A new Mode !

2010-02-19 Thread Toby Burnett
Look forward to working you Dave, maybe an 80m sked in the evening. Or 160 hi hi Another success contact with LY2CG with about 1 error throughout the qso. Also RX YO4CVL but RTTY QRM. Wondering if 14.080 is the best frequency right in the middle of the rtty sub band. ? ? Maybe up next to OLIVIA

Re: [digitalradio] Re: A new Mode !

2010-02-19 Thread Toby Burnett
Dave, your the only other G station I see testing this. What are your thoughts on the 500hz digi mode band allocation and this type of signal, certainly blasted by rtty but cant help think we are doing the same? Toby (mm0tob) ---Original Message--- From: Dave Ackrill Date:

[digitalradio] MT63 Operation

2010-02-19 Thread Thomas F. Giella NZ4O
Lately I've been playing around with MT63 at the 500 hz bandwidth. It was just about the only digital mode that I had not experimented with since getting on the digital modes in 2003. I've made some contacts around 3584 kc and 14074 kc. The band plans that I see for 20 meters on the internet

Re: [digitalradio] Re: A new Mode !

2010-02-19 Thread Toby Burnett
Just submitted this to Jose on his ROS blog page. What are your thoughts people please. Thanks for a quick reply Jose. There will be others who can recommend exact frequencies. I understand about not being swamped in the past lol, but the sub bands do kind of work. E.g. You'd never see an

[digitalradio] ROS band plan , and other modes

2010-02-19 Thread Andy obrien
Avoid 14075-76 since this is where JT65A is on 20M. I like the idea of us all be around the same place with differing modes, that way, we can hear people calling and do not have to constantly twirl the dial. Since most people's waterfalls , including the one in ROS, are 3kHZ wide , and

Re: [digitalradio] Re: A new Mode !

2010-02-19 Thread Glenn L. Roeser
Hello Toby, Your suggestions sound fine with me. I'm sorry that I missed the second M during our QSO. The band was just not there. I'm wondering? How wide is this mode? I'm sure the RTTY stations must hear us as well. Very 73 to all, Glenn (WB2LMV) From: Toby

Re: [digitalradio] Re: A new Mode !

2010-02-19 Thread Alan Beagley
Please include the option to select Virtual Audio Cable as the sound card -- and COM ports 6. 73 Alan NV8A On 02/19/10 07:49 am, nietorosdj wrote: Hi, With the New Version 1.6.2 you can select from COM1 to COM6. For the future versions, i will make soundcard selectable, no problem.

Re: [digitalradio] Re: A new Mode !

2010-02-19 Thread Toby Burnett
Hi Glenn, yes the band wasn't there and I have a faulty power line pole that they refuse to fix, it's about 200m from the qth and splatters S8 on 20m until it rains, (then all quiet and I can hear a pin drop in the south pacific lol I WISH) Well it occurred that this mode 2250hz wide is a

Re: [digitalradio] ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-19 Thread ivor peters
m5...@blueyonder.co.uk hello all. can someone tell me where i go to download this ros. many thanks 73 ivor/m5ply - Original Message - From: Andy obrien To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 1:23 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS, legal in USA?

[digitalradio] Go here to download ROS

2010-02-19 Thread Andy obrien
http://*rosmodem*.wordpress.com/ On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:32 AM, ivor peters m5...@blueyonder.co.ukwrote: m5...@blueyonder.co.uk hello all. can someone tell me where i go to download this ros. many thanks 73 ivor/m5ply

RE: [digitalradio] ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-19 Thread Giedrius, LY2CG
can someone tell me where i go to download this ros. many thanks 73 ivor/m5ply http://rosmodem.wordpress.com http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/ 73 - Giedrius, LY2CG m5...@blueyonder.co.uk hello all. can someone tell me where i go to download this ros. many thanks 73

Re: [digitalradio] Go here to download ROS

2010-02-19 Thread OSCAR LAMA - CX1CW
http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/ 73´s Good DX !! Oscar Lama - CX1CW MSN: oscar_l...@hotmail.com MSN: cx...@hotmail.com RGS#1300 EPC#7536 30MDG#2645 FD#2519 - Original Message - From: Andy obrien To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:35 PM

[digitalradio] Ros 1.6.2 beta File not found Switch(16638-29712).ocx

2010-02-19 Thread joe_n8jf
Have attempted installation on 32-bit Win-7 machine with no luck. Guidance will be appreciated. 73/72 Joe, N8JF

[digitalradio] Re: ROS New Mode

2010-02-19 Thread Gary
How do I select a specific sound card? Some of us are using external USB sound card devices for digital operation. Gary - N0GW --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, nietorosdj nietoro...@... wrote: HI, As you know i have created a new mode at http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/ I wish you

[digitalradio] Re: ROS New Mode

2010-02-19 Thread nietorosdj
Hi, i will try to put that option in a future version. Thank you for testing. --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Gary grwes...@... wrote: How do I select a specific sound card? Some of us are using external USB sound card devices for digital operation. Gary - N0GW --- In

Re: [digitalradio] ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-19 Thread Andy obrien
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJmbzY3MjhrBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE4NzExODMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDYzMTA4BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZtYnJzBHN0aW1lAzEyNjY1OTc1MzA-?o=6Joe, N8FQ... http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/regulations/news/part97/d-305.html Describes Spread Spectrum as

[digitalradio] Re: ROS width

2010-02-19 Thread nietorosdj
2250 Hz. From 400 to 2650Hz. --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andy obrien k3uka...@... wrote: I think it is 2200 Hz wide. Andy On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Glenn L. Roeser hillbillietr...@... wrote: Hello Toby, Your suggestions sound fine with me. I'm sorry that I

Re: [digitalradio] Re: A new Mode !

2010-02-19 Thread Dave Ackrill
Toby Burnett wrote: Dave, your the only other G station I see testing this. What are your thoughts on the 500hz digi mode band allocation and this type of signal, certainly blasted by rtty but cant help think we are doing the same? Hi Toby, I have to say that, given the 'width' of the

[digitalradio] Re: ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-19 Thread nietorosdj
Hi, One comment. A thing is a transceiver of Spread Spectrum (like military radios) and other very different is to send digital data into an audio channel on SSB, like PSK31, JT65, OLIVIA 1000, ROS...etc...are differents thinks. So, we must know what we are reading. --- In

[digitalradio] Re: ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-19 Thread nietorosdj
One comment: It is not the same a Spread Spectrum Transceiver (like military radios) that to send digital data into an audio channel on standard SSB transceiver. They are different things. So, when we read Spread Spectrum is not legal, first we must know what we are reading. --- In

Re: [digitalradio] Go here to download ROS

2010-02-19 Thread Dave Ackrill
Andy obrien wrote: http://*rosmodem*.wordpress.com/ That URL will only work if you take out the '*' of course, as in http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/ Dave (G0DJA)

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ROS New Mode

2010-02-19 Thread Dave Ackrill
Gary wrote: How do I select a specific sound card? Some of us are using external USB sound card devices for digital operation. At present it uses the Windows default soundcard, although this may change in future releases. So, you will need to open Control Panel, then open Sounds and Audio

Re: [digitalradio] ROS

2010-02-19 Thread jose alberto nieto ros
Hi, Glenn. Could you explain better the over button please. Put an example, please Thank you   De: Glenn L. Roeser hillbillietr...@yahoo.com Para: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Enviado: vie,19 febrero, 2010 14:41 Asunto: [digitalradio] ROS   I just had my

Re: [digitalradio] ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-19 Thread Dave Ackrill
Andy obrien wrote: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJmbzY3MjhrBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE4NzExODMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDYzMTA4BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZtYnJzBHN0aW1lAzEyNjY1OTc1MzA-?o=6Joe, N8FQ... http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/regulations/news/part97/d-305.html

Re: [digitalradio] ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-19 Thread Dave Ackrill
Dave Ackrill wrote: I'd actually say that the term 'spread spectrum' is actually incorrect as far as RIO is concerned. It's actually no more 'spread' than some of the other digi-modes and less 'spread' than some versions of Olivia. Sorry, I meant ROS of course. Mark it down as my senior

Re: [digitalradio] ROS

2010-02-19 Thread Andy obrien
Jose, a button that hands over to the other person in the call e.g. k3uk de p5dx kn K3UK would have P5DX in the destination box. I think it would be the same as the call button though. Andy K3UK On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 12:58 PM, jose alberto nieto ros nietoro...@yahoo.es wrote: Hi,

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-19 Thread KH6TY
All, If we accept the fact that a SSB transmitter with sufficient carrier suppression simply generates an RF carrier equal to the suppressed carrier frequency plus the tone frequency (USB), then frequency hopping is frequency hopping (spread spectrum), regardless of how the carriers are

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-19 Thread Dave Ackrill
KH6TY wrote: All, If we accept the fact that a SSB transmitter with sufficient carrier suppression simply generates an RF carrier equal to the suppressed carrier frequency plus the tone frequency (USB), then frequency hopping is frequency hopping (spread spectrum), regardless of how the

Re: [digitalradio] ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-19 Thread KH6TY
Unfortunately, the ROS explanation of Spread Spectrum and Frequency Hopping in the documentation too closely resembles the definition of Spread Spectrum as written in the Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spread_spectrum. Since ROS claims to be Frequency Hopping and Spread Spectrum by its

[digitalradio] Re: ROS

2010-02-19 Thread nietorosdj
OK, some questions: We have the CALL BUTTON: NONAME de EATEST Then we need other button, for example: KN BUTTON: NONAME de EATEST kn Is this correct? Could you define better the rest of buttons? i am a little confused with k, kn, not kn... Tell me how would be the basics buttons Thank

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-19 Thread KH6TY
The difference is the use of Frequency Hopping. In Olivia and the other digital modes, frequency hopping is not used but the data is sent redundantly over the width of the signal - MT63 is a good example. From the ROS documentation: ROS uses a Spread Spectrum technique known as

Re: [digitalradio] ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-19 Thread Andy obrien
Thanks Skip, I agree after doing some more reading and I will not use this mode on HF. Your UHF idea sounds good. Andy K3Uk On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 1:32 PM, KH6TY kh...@comcast.net wrote: Unfortunately, the ROS explanation of Spread Spectrum and Frequency Hopping in the documentation too

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-19 Thread Claudio
HI: I M calling 14080 usb, beam europe but no reply. claudio-LU2VC 2010/2/19 Dave Ackrill dave.g0...@tiscali.co.uk KH6TY wrote: All, If we accept the fact that a SSB transmitter with sufficient carrier suppression simply generates an RF carrier equal to the suppressed carrier

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-19 Thread jose alberto nieto ros
We can see it as we want, but if OLIVIA is legal, ROS is legal.   De: KH6TY kh...@comcast.net Para: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Enviado: vie,19 febrero, 2010 19:19 Asunto: Re: [digitalradio] Re: ROS, legal in USA?   All, If we accept the fact that a SSB

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-19 Thread John B. Stephensen
I agree. Spread spectrum is illegal below 420 MHz in the U.S. and the ROS documentation describes a spread-spectrum system. It's certainly no wider than modes that use Walsh codes or low-rate convolutional codes but these systems increase bandwidth by increasing redundancy and are therefore

Re: [digitalradio] ROS

2010-02-19 Thread Glenn L. Roeser
Hello Jose, It would be similar to one of the other buttons. (Example: The Station Button will fill the text field automatically when clicked with the stations equipment.) The over button would place at the end of the text field: his call de my call  K . Then it would stop the transmission. I

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ROS New Mode

2010-02-19 Thread lew cason
I run the SignalLink USB and it works with no problems with the ROS software - Original Message - From: Gary To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 12:07 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: ROS New Mode How do I select a specific sound card?

[digitalradio] Welcome F4AWY

2010-02-19 Thread obrienaj
Hello My call is F4AWY and i am a beginner in digital mods best 73 from France . Welcome to the group, please tell us what modes you use, we will be happy to help with any questions. Andy K3UK

Re: [digitalradio] ROS

2010-02-19 Thread jose alberto nieto ros
Ah, OK, thats button exit already: Is the button:  +BYE   De: Glenn L. Roeser hillbillietr...@yahoo.com Para: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Enviado: vie,19 febrero, 2010 19:47 Asunto: Re: [digitalradio] ROS   Hello Jose, It would be similar to one of the

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-19 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
Ok what's the bottom line? Is it or is it not? At this time my in box is overloaded with ROS subjects. And rather reading them all or deleting all Can someone just tell me? John, W0JAB

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-19 Thread Dave Ackrill
Claudio wrote: HI: I M calling 14080 usb, beam europe but no reply. claudio-LU2VC Sorry Claudio, things seemed to be getting quiet and I went to 30M using JT65a. Dave (G0DJA) Try Hamspots, PSKreporter, and K3UK Sked Page

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-19 Thread John B. Stephensen
Unfortunately, its illegal below 420 MHz in the U.S. 73 John KD6OZH - Original Message - From: John Becker, WØJAB To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 19:12 UTC Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: ROS, legal in USA? Ok what's the bottom

[digitalradio] (unknown)

2010-02-19 Thread AC TALBOT
The term Spread Spectrum  can apply to any mode that spreads its energy over more than the necessary bandwidth.   If we assume the necessary bandwidth to be equal to the signalling rate than anything other than single carrier modes technically fall into this category.   Even WSPR coul dbe

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-19 Thread jose alberto nieto ros
That's your opinion. It does not mean it's true. De: John B. Stephensen kd6...@comcast.net Para: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Enviado: vie,19 febrero, 2010 20:19 Asunto: Re: [digitalradio] Re: ROS, legal in USA?   Unfortunately, its illegal below 420 MHz in

RE: [digitalradio] Re: ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-19 Thread Simon HB9DRV
Do I hear the sound of a mass exodus to Canada? Or maybe back to Europe? Simon Brown, HB9DRV http://sdr-radio.com From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John B. Stephensen Unfortunately, its illegal below 420 MHz in the U.S.

Re: [digitalradio] (unknown)

2010-02-19 Thread jose alberto nieto ros
I could not explain it better. Unfortunately there are people on this forum seems to want to look for the three-legged cat. De: AC TALBOT ac.tal...@btinternet.com Para: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Enviado: vie,19 febrero, 2010 20:18 Asunto: [digitalradio]

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-19 Thread Glenn L. Roeser
Hello to all, I found this on the ARRL Site: QST de W1AW  ARRL Bulletin 62  ARLB062 From ARRL Headquarters  Newington CT  September 9, 1999 To all radio amateurs SB QST ARL ARLB062 ARLB062 FCC relaxes rules for spread spectrum The FCC has relaxed rules governing the use of spread spectrum

[digitalradio] ROS - CQ100

2010-02-19 Thread George
Has anyone tried this mode on CQ100?   Regards, George NJ3H

RE: [digitalradio] Re: ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-19 Thread John Bradley
please, please, no , not to Canada, they all argue too much hi hi john VE5MU From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon HB9DRV Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 1:37 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Re: ROS,

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-19 Thread John B. Stephensen
This 1999 report and order didn't change the frequencies allowed. The 2007 edition of the FCC rules and regulations shows that SS is allowed down to 222 MHz. 73, John KD6OZH - Original Message - From: Glenn L. Roeser To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February

Re: [digitalradio] ROS

2010-02-19 Thread Mobile Me
Hi All. I'm trying to install ROS on my pc running windows 7 ultimate (64 bit) but I'm not able to install, it seems to be impossible to do it on this operativ system. Could someone help me ? Best regards and thanks in advance. 73 - Ugo Il 19/02/2010 20:09, jose alberto nieto ros ha scritto:

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-19 Thread John B. Stephensen
It's my interpretation of the U.S. Code of Federal Regulations, Title 47, Part 97. You can see the authorized emissions table at 97.305 and the definition of SS (spread spectrum) at 97.3(c)(8). You can acces a copy via the FCC web site at www.fcc.gov. FCC rules are much more restrictive than

Re: [digitalradio] (unknown)

2010-02-19 Thread John B. Stephensen
The FCC specificly allows multiple-subcarrier transmissions on HF but bans spead spectrum emissions using bandwidth-expansion modulation. Multiple-subcarrier modes don't have to increase the bandwidth as the signal is split into N parallel streams and each can occupy 1/N the bandwidth of the

[digitalradio] Primer QSO con el ROS [2 Attachments]

2010-02-19 Thread Francesco Piccone
Mi primer QSO con el nuevo modo ROS Frecuencia 14.080 con el amigo Peter PJ2/DF7DQ en la isla de CURAZAO 73 Francesco YV4GJN

RE: [digitalradio] Re: ROS sound card

2010-02-19 Thread kq6i
Works hr with MicroHAM KEYER II es virtual router 7.6.0. I use COM 6, same as used for HRD/DM-780, wspr, jt65-hf etc. Piece of cake. rgrds Craig kq6i -Original Message- From: lew cason [mailto:lew_j...@att.net] Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 11:53 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com

RE: [digitalradio] ROS

2010-02-19 Thread kq6i
I had to disable Norton antivirus temporally to install hr. Norton considers .exe as evil. But, I use XP pro. Perhaps install using XP mode es disable antivirus software? rgrds Craig kq6i -Original Message- From: Mobile Me [mailto:ugo.dep...@me.com] Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010

[digitalradio] ROS install problem

2010-02-19 Thread Marco IK1ODO
ROS 1.6.2 beta refuses to install here, I get Run time error '76' - path not found when running the .exe Win XP SP3, P4. José, any hint? 73 - Marco IK1ODO / AI4YF

[digitalradio] How many ?

2010-02-19 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
Just how many sound card modes are there now? And what is the number that look just like another mode?

[digitalradio] RTTY and mode selection on radios

2010-02-19 Thread James French
Wondering if someone can point me to a link or some literature explaining about why there is a FSK mode on the HF radios like the Icom ic-746pro, Kenwood TS0940sat, and Ten-tec Paragon (585)? Is there a reason for this? I am asking this because I have listened to some RTTY using either USB or

Re: [digitalradio] RTTY and mode selection on radios

2010-02-19 Thread Andy obrien
FSK is RTTY but so is AFSK. Some rigs support the use of RTTY in FSK while others require a TNC or sound card to generate the tones. FSK on transceivers tends to invoke narrower filters and the frequency you are receiving is displayed differently. The serious RTTY guys tend to prefer FSK. This

[digitalradio] MT63 Operation

2010-02-19 Thread Thomas F. Giella NZ4O
Lately I've been playing around with MT63 at the 500 hz bandwidth. It was just about the only digital mode that I had not experimented with since getting on the digital modes in 2003. I've made some contacts around 3584 kc and 14074 kc. The band plans that I see for 20 meters on the internet

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-19 Thread KH6TY
Jose, We want to be able to use the mode on HF, but it is not our decision, but our FCC's decision, for whatever reasons they currently think are valid. Fortunately, it may work well on VHF and HF, so I plan to find out. 73 - Skip KH6TY jose alberto nieto ros wrote: We can see it as we

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2010-02-19 Thread Raymond E Lunsford
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Re: [digitalradio] MT63 Operation

2010-02-19 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
I have found it only around 14,109. But like many many modes - it's not used much. John, W0JAB At 03:37 PM 2/19/2010, you wrote: Lately I've been playing around with MT63 at the 500 hz bandwidth. It was just about the only digital mode that I had not experimented with since getting on the

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-19 Thread Bill V WA7NWP
We want to be able to use the mode on HF, but it is not our decision, but our FCC's decision, for whatever reasons they currently think are valid. Fortunately, it may work well on VHF and HF, so I plan to find out. Might this give some wider data on UHF? 20KHz? 50 KHz? Would it be

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-19 Thread Dave
Jose (and all), My two-cents worth: Olivia is MFSK (or AMFSK), ROS is Spread Spectrum. MFSK is legal on HF, SS is not. It isn't about bandwidth or any of the other arguments. Since ROS is Spread Spectrum then it is not allowed on HF in areas regulated by the FCC under the current

Re: [digitalradio] RTTY and mode selection on radios

2010-02-19 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- On Fri, 2/19/10, James French w8...@wideopenwest.com wrote: From: James French w8...@wideopenwest.com Subject: [digitalradio] RTTY and mode selection on radios To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, February 19, 2010, 3:58 PM Wondering if someone can point me to a link or some

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-19 Thread Marco IK1ODO
jose alberto nieto ros wrote: Â We can see it as we want, but if OLIVIA is legal, ROS is legal. The only difference I see, Olivia does not say to be spread spectrum, ROS does so :-) - but it's exactly the same approach, as many other digital modes. So, what is the exact spread spectrum

[digitalradio] Re: MT63 Operation

2010-02-19 Thread kb3fxi
We use MT63 on our wpaNBEMS nets here in Western PA on 3.5835 USB, 1000hz center on the waterfall. Our nets start out on 8/500 Olivia then we transmit a 1000hz MT63 1k long (64 bit) interleave bulletin. We stay on MT63 1k long and then go for comments since we're in the faster mode. We

Re: [digitalradio] RTTY and mode selection on radios

2010-02-19 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
RTTY should be used in the LSB mode regardless of the band. I don't use software for RTTY so I cant tell you a thing about that.

[digitalradio] Re: RTTY and mode selection on radios

2010-02-19 Thread jhaynesatalumni
If the radio has RTTY as a mode, as does the TS-940 for example, it means (1) there is an input on the back where you put in a baseband signal and FSK comes out the antenna, and (2) for receiving it will use a narrow filter and center the filter up around 2.2 KHz. (By baseband I mean the actualy

[digitalradio] FCC Spread Spectrum

2010-02-19 Thread Andy obrien
3. Spread spectrum is a technique whereby the energy of the transmitted signal is distributed over a wide segment of spectrum. The signal power density can be very low and the duration of a transmission on any frequency in the segment of the spectrum can be but a fraction of a second. SS

[digitalradio] Polarized Rotation Modulation (PRZM)

2010-02-19 Thread Robert Tiller
From Darpa: Polarization modulation introduces an additional dimension. A radio with four polarization possibilities would transmit four times the information with all other aspects of the waveform held constant.  

[digitalradio] Re: RTTY and mode selection on radios

2010-02-19 Thread jhaynesatalumni
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Becker, WØJAB w0...@... wrote: RTTY should be used in the LSB mode regardless of the band. Well thats when you aren't using the FSK mode for RTTY; the FSK mode does put it into LSB. I don't use software for RTTY so I cant tell you a thing about

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-19 Thread jose alberto nieto ros
¿Olivia is only MFSK?  Why there is so ignorant people in the world? De: Dave hfradio...@gmail.com Para: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Enviado: vie,19 febrero, 2010 23:03 Asunto: Re: [digitalradio] Re: ROS, legal in USA?   Jose (and all), My two-cents worth:

[digitalradio] Re: ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-19 Thread vinceinwaukesha
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Dave Ackrill dave.g0...@... wrote: Does anyone have a definition of real spread spectrum? As I hate to think what will happen when/if people with even less knowledge than I have of what 'real' spread spectrum is get the idea that RIO is something that

Re: [digitalradio] Re: RTTY and mode selection on radios

2010-02-19 Thread DANNY DOUGLAS
I use USB dfor FSK, simply because I want the low side of the signals to show up on the left side of the waterfall, and the high frequencies to show up to the right. Because that puts me opposite than the normal signals, I run both send and receive with the reverse button clicked.' Danny

[digitalradio] Buglet in ROS

2010-02-19 Thread jhaynesatalumni
A minor but annoying problem I'm having is that in Windows XP it keeps maximizing the window without being told to. I haven't found for sure what triggers it, but just now I am monitoring and a ROS signal came on and a second or two after the initial tone the window maximized itself. Yup, just

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