sholtofish wrote:
With a 500Hz narrow filter certainly it would be far enough away but I
suspect that many of the monitoring stations might be using a wider
bandwidth, especially the automatic monitors. I know for a fact the FAROS
program requires a wider bandwidth than 500Hz and I
rgh
I don't hink I can stand it any more and will just have to unsubscribe from
this group.I originally joined it as being the author of the Data column in
RSGB's RadCom, felt I ought to keep in touch with the people who actually use
the datamodes and was
The portions that are causing problems here aren't in the regulations in other
countries.
73,
John
KD6OZH
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From: W2XJ
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 01:14 UTC
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: There is a pattern in the ROS
At 10:00 01-03-10, G4JNT wrote:
rgh
I agree 100% :-) - it has become a sterile discussion, IMHO.
73 - Marco IK1ODO / AI4YF
Andy,
As others have said, the answer's no. You list SDR-Radio.com in the list -
the CPU use depends on how you will use the software:
* Sample rate,
* Number of channels being simultaneously decoded,
* Whether you've enabled pseudo-stereo mode,
* Display size and number of monitors,
* Running
From: IMR ac.tal...@btinternet.com
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 Time: 09:00:33
rgh
I don't hink I can stand it any more and will just have to unsubscribe
from this group.I originally joined it as being the author of the
Data column in RSGB's RadCom, felt I ought to
I propose we change this group name to the... ROS Roundabout. I keep
seeing the same arguments from the same preple over and over. That
reminds me of GroundHog Day the movie. :-)
I am so over the whole discussion, not to mention the ops who insist on
firing up ROS16 on 30m at 10141 right in
As a participant in this USA-centric foolishness, I can still detect the
presence of a deceased equine.
de Dave, NF2G
Hello Dave,
This is awesome. A real keeper of an e-mail. I am not in the market for a
computer but this is still excellent knowledge to have and I do not have to buy
a bunch of magazines or join another Yahoo group to get it.
Again, thank you.
Rick - KH2DF
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 28,
This afternoon somebody was transmitting for several times the following
message in ROS 14106:
pse do not use Olivia channel frequencies. With you 2200 hz wide signal you
qrm 3 Olivia channels 1000 hz wide or 5 Olivia channels 500 hz wide.You are
also
I have to say to this person, that Washl
I was wondering if anyone has used the MSG ID function in MultiPSK with an SDR
radio?
In theory I think it should be possible to use MSG ID to send a little text
message anywhere in the 20m digital portion and have it display on the
waterfall of the SDR receiver.
The MSG ID function uses RS
Hi,
From 14101 to 14112 is the range legal in the IARU Regions for DIGIMODES until
2700Hz.
You cannot use all the spectrum exclusive for you because spectrum is for all
hamradio.
OLIVIA and ROS have to share frequencies, as well as future modes that will
emerge over the coming years.
sholtofish wrote:
I was wondering if anyone has used the MSG ID function in MultiPSK with an
SDR radio?
I have a Perseus SDR and will update my copy of MultiPSK to have a go.
Not having used MSG ID I may need a bit of help to set it up properly,
if you have step by step instructions that
Jose
Hear, hear
rgrds
Craig
kq6i
Peace, long-life, es gud DX! C
P.S. including 14101
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From: nietorosdj [mailto:nietoro...@yahoo.es]
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 10:34 AM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [digitalradio] Spectrum is for ALL users
Hi,
From
my pleasure, Rick.
73,
Dave, AA6YQ
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From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on
Behalf Of Rick Westerfield
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 9:11 AM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Calculating CPU use
Hi Jose
I support you completely
73 de LA5VNA Steinar
On 01.03.2010 18:34, nietorosdj wrote:
Hi,
From 14101 to 14112 is the range legal in the IARU Regions for
DIGIMODES until 2700Hz.
You cannot use all the spectrum exclusive for you because spectrum is
for all hamradio.
OLIVIA and
Andy,
Some great ideas there. I had also suggested a couple months ago the idea of a
universal CQ mode that could be an extension of the RSID/CallID that Patrick
has developed. The software should include S/N measurement that can be used to
suggest some the possible modes to switch to for
Hello Ed!
How would ALE serve well as a CQ Calling Mode?
Howard W6IDS
Richmond, IN Em79NV
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From: ed_hekman ehek...@cox.net
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 1:45 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: A new concept in digital mode band plans-
Steinar, that is absolutely true, the spectrum belongs to everybody, but
the other side of the coin is that we need to police ourselves, and
that usually means moving around to better accomodate other users of the
spectrum, or by their moving also. This is how we arrive at bandplan
divisions
Howard,
With PSK all the activity is concentrated in a small segment of the band that
we can monitor on the waterfall. If someone calls CQ outside that segment
there is a very low probability that someone else will happen to be tuning
there, hear the CQ and respond.
I think the concept
All,
I ran several path tests with ROS-16 and Olivia 2K this evening. The simulator
showed that Olivia is about as sensitive as ROS when configured to run at the
same baud rate, but it is not as sensitive when configured to run at the same
word-per-minute rate. Olivia 32/2K will runs about as
I think this is a lot easier. If you see a channel is occupied by Olivia, go to
another channel. And if you see that a channel is occuped by ROS and want to
transmit with OLIVIA, do the same.
What i cannot say is The 20-meters band is only mine.
De: KH6TY
Good tests, thanks Tony.
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Tony d...@optonline.net wrote:
All,
I ran several path tests with ROS-16 and Olivia 2K this evening. The
simulator showed that Olivia is about as sensitive as ROS when configured to
run at the same baud rate, but it is not as
Since the RS ID works well over this range with my SDR, I see no reason why
the MSG ID would not work.
Andy K3UK
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Dave Ackrill dave.g0...@tiscali.co.ukwrote:
sholtofish wrote:
I was wondering if anyone has used the MSG ID function in MultiPSK with
an SDR
Just to make myself clear, I am not suggesting that we actually use the
standard ALE digital mode for calling CQ. I'd be fine with it, but it is
quite wide and would start a debate all over again. I'm also not suggesting
we use ALE-style soundings that are unattended. What I like about the
Hi Tony, you will have to repeat the test next days when i improve lenght
interleaver as I had expected :-)
The first think i said about ROS is that minimize the power at the same
character/minute rate, and that is just what you are tester :-). You cannot
match Washl Function FEC with Viterbi
jose alberto nieto ros wrote:
I think this is a lot easier. If you see a channel is occupied by Olivia, go
to another channel. And if you see that a channel is occuped by ROS and want
to transmit with OLIVIA, do the same.
What i cannot say is The 20-meters band is only mine.
That has
I agree that is easier. The problem is that 14109 has been designated as
1 baud exclusive, so that is not suggested as available to go to. Even
though is an advantage to being about to work at -35 dB S/N, the
advantage is much greater at VHF and UHF, where atmospheric noise is a
greater
From Jose's web site
http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/2010/03/02/fcc-ros-legal-in-usa/
FCC: ROS LEGAL IN USA
By José Alberto Nieto Ros
It ended the controversy about whether ROS is legal in USA or not. For
which they insisted on it was illegal: “A mamarla”
The case you submitted via the FCC has been
KH6TY wrote:
I agree that is easier. The problem is that 14109 has been designated as
1 baud exclusive, so that is not suggested as available to go to. Even
though is an advantage to being about to work at -35 dB S/N, the
advantage is much greater at VHF and UHF, where atmospheric noise is
KH,
ROS 1 baud, is just the less interference produces to others modes. Before quit
1 baud, i would quit 16 bauds.
So, has no sense what you proposse.
De: KH6TY kh...@comcast.net
Para: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Enviado: mar,2 marzo, 2010 00:40
Asunto: Re:
Sorry Dave, I don't follow you as to what would be stupid.
The point is that any suggested frequency exclusive to 1 baud suggests
to 16 baud users to stay off. However, there are many more 16 baud users
than 1 baud if you monitor both frequencies, and QSO's move much faster,
allowing for more
At 05:40 PM 3/1/2010, you wrote:
The problem is that 14109 has been designated as 1 baud exclusive,
It has?
I dont create ROS 1 baud only for EME operation. ROS 1 baud is also for QRP
enthusiasts in HF. I think these people have the same right to experiment with
weak signals in HF, and we should select some channel for this propose.
But obviusly, should have more channels to 16 bauds than 1 baud.
Technically, that is true. However, the problem I see over here is many
times ROS decoding is stopped because of interference by other modes
(Olivia and Pactor both), and not so many times as ROS interfering to
other modes. Yes, that has been complained about also, and I have
sometimes also
Jose
has K3TL said anything about his action?
From the latest at rosmodem.wordpress.com:
* **14.102 (exclusive 16 baud)**
* 14.106 (exclusive 16 baud)
* 14.109 (exclusive 1 baud)
73 - Skip KH6TY
John Becker, WØJAB wrote:
At 05:40 PM 3/1/2010, you wrote:
The problem is that 14109 has been
On 03/01/2010 04:06 PM, Andy obrien wrote:
Thank goodness sanity has prevailed!
Leigh/WA5ZNU
From Jose's web site
http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/2010/03/02/fcc-ros-legal-in-usa/
FCC: ROS LEGAL IN USA
By José Alberto Nieto Ros
...
According to the technical paper and the audio file
Good evening,
This message is off-topic, but I hope someone can provide me some help and
information.
Desire: To receive updated news (in an ASCII text format), that I can then
save to a text file and then send using different digital modes. This will be
done over the internet, if possible
Gee-whillikers! Why don't you folks just filter on the keyword in the
subject and direct all hits to another folder? Most of the posts today
have been on the subject of ROS discussion - will it , which
certainly has absolutely nothing to do with digital communications.
73,
LEE, AA5J
I had no doubt that it would once the document that the FCC requires was
published. Since European hams don't normally read FCC regulations, it might
be useful for the IARU or RSGB to publish an article about U.S. regulations
so this doesn't happen again.
73,
John
KD6OZH
- Original
I hope no one is deleting this thread. It's something to chew on slowly.
Thanks, Guys. Interesting reads, both.
Howard W6IDS
Richmond, IN EM79NV
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From: Andy obrien
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 5:39 PM
Subject: Re:
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