The Search by US State of Active Callsigns using LoTW page on
Hamspots.net has had some major updates.
The search results now show the last known year of upload to LoTW of
callsigns (great for avoiding those who haven't uploaded in many years).
The Spot count is broken down by mode making it
Sorry, forgot the link in the last email.
Page here... http://www.hamspots.net/lotw/
de Laurie, VK3AMA
Thank you, now we know truth. Guess I better stay clear of it till the
determination is officially posted...73, Alan
Earlier this morning, I called the FCC to confirm the FCC: ROS LEGAL
IN USA assertion made in
http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/ http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/
I asked for
Can anything be done to get the recommended frequencies for ROS on 20m shifted
out of the 14.101 - 14.109 range that already has established users of other
modes? On my band plan, 14.101 and up is designated for All modes which goes
right the way up to 14.350 so there is no reason for digital
Click on close. That has stored the Options for me.
And think real hard next time before calling the FCC. Ham radio was the
net loser in this episode. We are already viewed as squabbling children
at the FCC, and this type of episode just reinforces that view of
amateur radio.
AMEN.
Jim - K6JM
- Original Message -
From: Alan
Julian,
In the US, the RTTY/data segment of 20m stops at 14.150.
73 - Skip KH6TY
g4ilo wrote:
Can anything be done to get the recommended frequencies for ROS on 20m
shifted out of the 14.101 - 14.109 range that already has established
users of other modes? On my band plan, 14.101 and
http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2010/03/04/11377/?nc=1
So we can forget about here in the US...too bad it looked really nice...73, Alan
Unfortunately, it appears that ROS is actually FHSS, as originally
described on the ROS website, and therefore is not legal for US hams
below 222MHz. :-(
From the ARRL website,
http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2010/03/04/11377/?nc=1,
When queried about this new statement, the FCC's Consumer
KH6TY wrote:
Julian,
In the US, the RTTY/data segment of 20m stops at 14.150.
The current UK band plans can be found at
http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/bandplans/
There's an online version and an Excel version that you can download.
Dave (G0DJA)
Very useful. Laurie, many thanks
Andy K3UK
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Laurie, VK3AMA grou...@... wrote:
Sorry, forgot the link in the last email.
Page here... http://www.hamspots.net/lotw/
de Laurie, VK3AMA
I thought you were in Region 2. I have the Region 2 band plan in front of me
right off the IARU site and it definitely says All Modes in all of the sections
right up to 14.350. I don't see any division at 14.150 at all. In any case, I
don't think you'd need to go as far even as 14.150 to find a
I disagree. We are required to determine whether a mode is legal before
using it. The author initially described ROS as being spread spectrum. Part
97 precludes the use of spread spectrum on HF, but gives no clear definition
of spread spectrum. The FCC bears responsibility for this lack of
http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2010/03/04/11377/?nc=1
Up to 2-3-3 , still the same problem , for some readon I cnnot save the
sound card setting , click save , re start , open window and the MB card not
the USB is selected ..
Select USB . can see audio / decodes fine .. press TX sound card reverts to
mother board , tx audio from MB
I will be on 432.090 mHz this Saturday Feb 6 at 1230 UTC . listening and
testing ROS 1 and 16. If interested, check in to the K3Uk Sked page
http://www.obriensweb.com/sked/
Julian, the problem is that the FCC regulations we live under are often
more strict than the IARU bandplans. Under those regulations, RTTY/Data
stops at 14.150.
Furthermore, the IARU band plans are only recommendations for member
organizations. The FCC regulations are laws we MUST follow.
ooops, I meant MARCH 6th
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:16 PM, obrienaj k3uka...@gmail.com wrote:
I will be on 432.090 mHz this Saturday Feb 6 at 1230 UTC . listening and
testing ROS 1 and 16. If interested, check in to the K3Uk Sked page
http://www.obriensweb.com/sked/
On 03/04/2010 02:02 PM, Alan wrote:
http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2010/03/04/11377/?nc=1
So we can forget about here in the US...too bad it looked really nice...73,
Alan
I don't read it like that.
The FCC just says that:
1) spread spectrum is not allowed on HF, and
2) The Commission does
I take it you mean MARCH 6th?
--
Dave Sparks - AF6AS
- Original Message -
From: obrienaj k3uka...@gmail.com
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:16 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] ROS UHF net February 6 1230 UTC
I will be on 432.090 mHz this Saturday Feb 6 at
Jose,
Is THIS really true: [T]he information contained on the ROS Web site
was /not/ provided by the FCC.
la5vna S
On 04.03.2010 23:10, KH6TY wrote:
Unfortunately, it appears that ROS is actually FHSS, as originally
described on the ROS website, and therefore is not legal for US hams
If anyone doubts that ROS is actually spread spectrum, download, unzip
and compare screen captures of both ROS and FMSK64, idling, and when
data (a string of periods) is sent. It is easy to see that the
frequencies of the ROS carriers are not determined by the data, but that
the data is
OK, I understand. That still doesn't make it impossible to use somewhere above
14.109 though, does it?
Well I guess now it's immaterial to you guys anyway. What I don't understand is
why anyone still wants to use the mode. The developer has made threats to other
amateurs, he has posted false
http://ham2ham.com/room307_ros.php
FYI, Andy K3UK
Well, I was going to start using ROS on UHF and maybe occasionally on HF and
let the K3UK decision and other chips fall where they might.
However, the ARRL just released a statement indicating that the author of the
software has lied to the amateur community about the legal status of his
Just grabbed 2.4.0. Same problem. Of course the FCC says I can't transmit, so
it is largely moot, but it would be fun to at least listen in.
Alan
WA4SCA
TAPR Winter 2010 PSR Journal Now On-Line at:
www.tapr.org/psr/psr110.pdf
TAPR DCC (Digital Communication Conference) Proceedings Now On-Line at:
www.tapr.org/pub_dcc.html
TAPR DCC (Digital Communication Conference) Proceedings Now On-Line at:
www.tapr.org/pub_dcc.html
Typo - should have read MFSK64 not FMSK64.
73 - Skip KH6TY
KH6TY wrote:
If anyone doubts that ROS is actually spread spectrum, download, unzip
and compare screen captures of both ROS and FMSK64, both at idling,
and when data (in this case, only a string of periods) is sent. It is
easy to
If anyone has any interest in using PC-ALE or Multipsk to do standard ALE and
ALE 400 transmission. I will be in the digitalradio part of the K3UK Sked Page
at 1300-1400 hours March 6th and willing to help anyone that needs assistance.
The focus will be on ATTENDED ALE operations and
KH6TY wrote:
Unfortunately, it appears that ROS is actually FHSS, as originally
described on the ROS website, and therefore is not legal for US hams
below 222MHz. :-(
I think that I now no longer care about whether ROS is, or is not, legal
in the USA.
I see that I am now subject to
Like my friend Alan, I am distressed by the shading of the meaning of
lie. I believe we safely explain the short word LIE now by looking at
an example.
Bob
N4HY
On 3/3/2010 1:06 PM, Dave AA6YQ wrote:
Earlier this morning, I called the FCC to confirm the FCC: ROS LEGAL IN
USA assertion
Hello All,
I have seen this text mentioned at several places:
---
Hmmm. So the FCC is saying
If it is spread spectrum then it is not legal below 222 Mhz.
But they also say they are not determining if it is SS or not.
And that it is up to the individual operator to determine
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Dave Wright hfradio...@... wrote:
http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2010/03/04/11377/?nc=1
Quoted:
The ARRL supports -- as one of the basic purposes of Amateur Radio -- the
experimentation and advancing the technical skills of operators. The
development
Ok hang on
I just read the statement. Doesn't it say that use of spread spectrum is
not permitted below such and such a band. However I see reasonably no
different a spread spectrum exists to the USB /lsb/ 20m packet, amtor/
pactor etc etc i.e. 2.4khz or less (and AM is that very wide )
The FCC said
'ROS' is viewed as 'spread spectrum,' and the creator of the system describes
it as that. We assume that he knows what he created.
This is unequivocal.
However, the FCC also says
The Commission does not determine if a particular mode 'truly' represents
spread spectrum as it is
You very could be right, but I'll avoid using it until it is approved by the
FCC...I d/l it yesterday and installed and got up and going and was really
impressed about how it came thru the noise and 100 per cent copy...Oh
well..guess I'll be watching and waiting...73, Alan
--- In
Well said Alan
I agree, going to the FCC anytime is marching the hobby one step closer to
the grave.
From: Alan Barrow ml9...@pinztrek.com
Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:06:56 -0500
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Statement on
Courtesy of http://www.hornucopia.com/contestcal/weeklycont.php
DARC 10-Meter Digital Contest: 1100Z-1700Z, Mar 7
Mode: RTTY, Amtor, Clover, PSK31, Pactor
Bands: 10m Only
Classes:Single Op
SWL
Exchange: RST + Serial No.
QSO Points: 1
-- Forwarded message --
From: ROS v2.5.0 Beta no-re...@wordpress.com
Date: Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 9:42 PM
Subject: [New post] NEW NARROWBAND DIGITAL MODE
To: k3uka...@gmail.com
http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/author/rosmodem/ NEW NARROWBAND
DIGITAL MODE
Nico,
Does the American Radio Relay League and U.S. Federal Communications Commission
have representation and/or jurisdiction over you and your license to operate
your Ham station
within your country and whether or not you are authorized to use an emission
determined
to be spread spectrum
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