At 04:42 AM 8/4/2010, you wrote (in part):
I was thinking about this while walking the dog -
Now that's a new one.
Bets the last number one answer to the age old thinking question..
At 10:08 AM 8/4/2010, you wrote:
Do you have a list?
No I don't.
Sorry
A large number of RTTY parts have been put up for sale.
If anyone is looking for anything please ask.
John, W0JAB
Louisiana, Missouri
At 12:19 PM 7/20/2010, you wrote:
Do you know if any US amateurs are raising a Petition for Rulemaking to move
to regulation by bandwidth instead of mode ?
Trevor,
We in the USA have been down this path before.
And every time the FCC has said the same thing.
I really don't know just where you
After thinking about a for a while -
I'm going to part with all my RTTY equipment.
It's all going.
John, W0JAB
The hell with the rules and law, right Garrett?
John, W0JAB
At 05:48 PM 7/19/2010, you wrote:
What is absurd is that its a fight in the first place.. do you ever just back
up and look at what is being said?? Your all acting like this is life or
death..ITS NOT..I have been using it all
At 08:19 AM 7/18/2010, you wrote:
I dare say that if someone offered me one, I would probably take it, just for
the noise and the stink. I would charge admission. Mine had lots of roll
paper, paper tape etc,. It worked FB.
Now that an Idea for income since I have 3 of them. (1, 28 RO 2,
I'm not in anyway saying that what happened was OK but
after all it was a contest. Not like it happens all the time.
But look at the good side. Lucky it was not a CW contest.
John, W0JAB
Louisiana, Missouri
EM49lk
Pike county for the county hunters.
At 10:56 AM 7/18/2010, you wrote:
I had 3
One of 2 things come to mind.
1) a very weak station trying to get into the repeater.
2) strong RF.
At 11:18 AM 7/18/2010, you wrote:
[Attachment(s) from Mike Liller included below]
Hi all,
I know this is a little of topic, but can anyone tell me what this noise is?
We are getting this
At 11:52 AM 7/17/2010, you wrote:
And if you are an ARRL member, they will do it for you free.
73 Buddy WB4M
Thanks buddy, and yes, a life member
Do I need to do anything or is this an automatic happens thing they do?
John, W0JAB
HOT STICKY Missouri.
Q How do you know it's summer in
I wonder where ROS would be today if someone had been
truthful about it the first place?
That little game of banning some from using it (for unknown reasons)
was just about it for me.
John, W0JAB
If one was to just disconnect from the net would the program
later try to post?
It seems that this is the main concern of many?
John, W0JAB
EM49lk
The other day after making a comment about ROS
I got a note (direct) just saying -
makes one wonder what else the program is doing.
Do you have your banking information on that computer ?
What other surprises are hidden in this software?
None !
program has been removed.
firewall settings changed to block anything
that may still be imbedded.
At 08:58 AM 7/9/2010, you wrote:
extremely wicked; nefarious schemes; a villainous plot; a villainous
band of thieves
Rein are you trying to tell us that NONE of this never happened ?
The list of banned, and other thing that have been posted that this
program has been said to do.
This
Sorry Rein -
Please forgive as that was about the time I was having big time
computer problems. Lost a bunch of emails.
what was that my final question again.
John, W0JAB
After loading a updated version as he said that everyone
needed to do. After entering my call it would not work.
Just like others have posted that they could no longer use it.
I have not tried it again and will not try it.
Touch a hot stove and get burned one will not touch it again.
I will
I think many would like to have a answer once and for all
on this issue if some have been banned from using the
software.
John, W0JAB
digitalradio co moderator
At 12:54 PM 7/9/2010, you wrote:
Could this ROS discussion be taken offline or elsewhere?
I expect others, like I, are sick of the
At 01:44 PM 7/9/2010, you wrote:
John,
Who is Andy, K3UK?
Andy is the list owner.
And yes anyone can discuss ROS at any point and time.
And many are still looking for an answer of why
some (at one point or another) was banned from using
the program.
Now you seem to be a spokesperson for
At 09:46 AM 7/7/2010, you wrote:
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Siegfried Jackstien
siegfried.jackst...@... wrote:
..
Ros is programmed for low power qrppp experiments . with a few watt and a
groundplane for a 16000 km path .. But there are users thinking more power
is better . and
At 04:04 PM 7/6/2010, you wrote in part:
UH OH.now I've done it. Bet I won't ever get on their forum, much less
be able
to use ROS any time soon SNIFFLE I'm down in the dingy cellar now with
the
likes of John W0JAB!
Howard W6IDS
Richmond, IN EM79NV
Come on down. The beer is cold and
At 02:28 PM 7/8/2010, you wrote:
Hi Rain
You have absolutely right . ROS are sending data from your PC to the
cluster. Try to type the IP address 90.225.73.203:8000 into your
browser and you get this:
Why would it telnet to an IP address in Sweden?
At 06:18 PM 7/8/2010, you wrote:
Hi John,
That IP address is probably a cluster in Sweden that was added by Jose to the
list of clusters to be served by ROS users.
Amateur radio is a global hobby.
73 Rein W6SZ
Oh I agree about the being global but I would much rather do it myself.
Seems
What freq is the ROS mode being used on 40 Meters?
World like to play with it a bit.
John
If I download a new version I will NOT be able to use
the program. For a unknown reason I was one of the people
that Jose has seen unfit to use it.
That was the reason I had to beg for a earlier venison of it.
But thanks for your reply.
At 03:50 PM 7/5/2010, you wrote:
If you download
I am all for busy detect.
That being said what do you do with someone that has so much
hate for Pactor (like KC7GNM ) that they turn to QRM'ing jamming
or what ever you would like to call it any time they hear it?
Right now the only tools that I have for busy detect for others
modes is my
At 12:52 PM 6/27/2010, you wrote:
This has generated enormous frustration over the years, to the point where
some operators now intentionally QRM such servers. This intentional QRM is as
disgusting as running a server without a busy frequency detector, and provides
a convenient excuse for
Well Andy,
I have that $1K modem.
but in order to run WINMOR I would have to putout for a
new faster computer.
So what better? hen in hand or the one in the bush?
At 12:56 PM 6/27/2010, you wrote:
Just a reminder..when Winmor first stated, the idea was to establish a
mode that did not need a
For what it's worth :
I have been very close to that freq waiting for any pactor
connect. I have not noticed anything.
Must be just outside of what I can hear.
John, W0JAB
At 04:36 AM 6/19/2010, you wrote:
Hi Patrick,
Wonder if you happen to know that I created the original (very first) Weather
Radio Alert in 1974,
I did and I do thank you for your afford.
Here in the center of Tornado Alley there is one on
every headboard (or should be) .
Sometime I would
Over the course of my work as a 2way radio tech I have looked
at a lot of circuits for one project or another your's being one of them
Very interesting how you made that puppy. Also just about an hour
ago my radio went off.
John, W0JAB
At 10:13 AM 6/19/2010, you wrote:
John,
I have written
At 06:29 AM 6/15/2010, you wrote:
LEO stands for Law Enforcement Officer. For this Sprint, if you are or were a
law enforcement officer in any country (police, border patrol, customs, prison
guard, etc...) you will indicate so in your QSO exchange with LEO. (ex:
WB2HTO de N3LFC ur 599 PA
At 03:22 AM 6/6/2010, you wrote: (in part)
In the end, systems like ROS, Clover, PACKTOR-XXX, etc, where there is not
full published trasparency in the encoding process, are not suitable for
legal amateur use, in my humble opinion.
In other words, no one has the right to make money from their
I just do not believe amateur operators should use
such protocols on the amateur bands.
Such protocols ?
What makes you say that?
By the same thinking (that being that a commercial company) is making
any money should you not put kenwood and yaesu into the same?
Or how about that mean money making company that made your sound card interface.
or microsoft.
John, W0JAB
At 10:12 AM 6/6/2010, you wrote:
You can of course
Jeremy
Maybe the fact that it was 10 bucks may have something to
do with it.
At 02:24 PM 6/5/2010, you wrote:
Hello,
When purchasing a new radio this last week I decided to also set my
computer up how it should have been long ago. I purchased a sound card
to dedicate it to digital modes.
Rein
Really don't know what to say at this point.
Still trying to understand why my call was added to
the list of calls not able to use the ROS program.
But since Jose will not say I'll just move on to things
other then ROS. But I'm not the only one that this
has happen to. No big deal I have
No need to worry from being banned from this list from me.
That's not my style of moderating.
Yes I can no longer use ROS for some reason.
I did ask but that went unanswered.
All I know is that he posted a updated version and when ask for my call
the program would shut down if I recall. Never
I think that is what I said below now in RED
By my call I mean W0JAB
At 12:44 PM 6/2/2010, you wrote:
- Original Message -
But since I have it on a flash drive I did install it on the laptop and
gave it a call other then my call and it worked fine.
What do you think?
I think
No can do.
facebook is one of those sites that read write
and otherwise do things that most don't like to have done
to their system. It would take me the better part of 1/2 hour
to get past the site is reading or writing or trying whatever.
Just to get to it.
And I think I have told you in
As moderator of a number of yahoo list I can tell you first
hand you have to make the change yourself. No one here can
do it for you.
At 12:40 PM 5/23/2010, you wrote:
We are changing our email address from
mailto:laz...@earthlink.netlaz...@earthlink.net
to
I was wondering what that noise was.
Guess the pactor did not bother you.
At 06:27 PM 5/10/2010, you wrote:
Another question was whether Pactor III's bandwidth was really necessary for
live keyboard to keyboard QSOs. I guess that was an anti-Pactor III question,
but that one also never got answered.
Jim to answer that I really would have to say that
for keyboard
Anyone know of a source?
John, W0JAB
Just a cable.
232 in and out. BD9 on one end USB on the other
Sorry for any confusion.
At 11:42 AM 5/11/2010, you wrote:
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:52:15AM -0500, John Becker, WJAB wrote:
Anyone know of a source?
It would help to hear more about the application, John.
I suspect you want a
John Becker, WØJAB wrote:
At 06:27 PM 5/10/2010, you wrote:
Another question was whether Pactor III's bandwidth was really necessary for
live keyboard to keyboard QSOs. I guess that was an anti-Pactor III
question, but that one also never got answered.
Jim to answer that I really would
I can clearly see that this anti Pactor rant will Never end.
John, W0JAB
I would belive that if it was not for that fact that shortly
after a PACTOR QSO the phone has rang telling me what
orifice I should shove my pactor equipment into. Leaving no
guessing what so ever about it. Then not even giving me
time to say I was in a 2 person QSO. That my friend was
the
Often, very often. All pactor modes.
As for a typing. touch typing is a thing of the past.
At 02:19 PM 5/10/2010, you wrote:
John,
How frequently do you use Pactor-III, keyboard to keyboard?
How fast do you touch type?
At 02:51 PM 5/10/2010, you wrote:
Unfortunately lots of people have had bad experiences with Pactor
and,naturally, like when you've been bitten by a big dog you don't forget it !
I used to enjoy using pactor with my PK232 during the 90's but many times my
contacts were totally wiped out by a
At 03:12 PM 5/10/2010, you wrote:
John,
I was specifically asking only about Pactor-III keyboard-to-keyboard QSO's,
not Pactor-II or Pactor I.
Skip, just because you are anyone else can't copy
P2 or P3 does not mean it does not happen. Belive me, it happens !
most of my keyboard to keyboard
At 05:18 PM 5/10/2010, you wrote:
Yes,
14.075 was the Pactor calling freq, don't know who decided that. I have
not heard any ARQ Pactor in a long time, is it still used by anyone?
73 Buddy WB4M
Yes it still is but it has been driven to the coat room by
all the sound card user. Seems that
For what it's worth
As a WINLINK user I did some checking and could *only* find
2 (two) station within the winlink network using anything
close to 10,147. that would be a KL7 and ON0 station using
a center freq of 10,147.700. and it has been days since either
has been (more like weeks)
I cant speak for others but I just got this very same message
23 times.
I have banned him from *EVERY* list that I own.
Andy I sure hope you do also. And I'm sure others
will say the same thing.
I ONLY need to see it once not 23 damn times.
John, W0JAB
I can't think back this far. What came first -
Packer or Amtor (ARQ mode to boot) .
At 12:03 PM 4/19/2010, you wrote:
If the first generation of digital was PACKET-IRLQ-Echolink-APRS (generation
Zero was CW and RTTY), then the second generation was D-Star. D-Star brought
everything together
Only works with sound card modes?
That a question not a comment.
I really have no clue.
At 01:08 AM 4/9/2010, you wrote:
A quick fix for this entire mess is to suggest to those running automated
traffic stations to use the World Wide Web. The web is faster, less likely to
be affected by atmospheric changes, and remove a thorn in the side of many ham
radio operators.
Most of what
Dave
right now I dont have the time to plug the holes
in your comments.
But the bottom line is that they are ham's at see.
Would there be a problem if they only used SSB
and not data mode?
I for one can tell you first hand what happens
if for any reason you should disagree with her.
try this list
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pactor_packet/
playing tonight only
I will be on 40 meters tonight with the Kenwood 520
and the 28ASR, ST-6 TU.
Why? Because I can !
About 7ish (CDST)
At 02:52 PM 3/26/2010, you wrote:
What hours??
Bob, W5XR
At 01:01 PM 3/25/2010, you wrote:
That seems a bit theoretical to me. If you have a mode that is very wide but
gets its information across in short bursts, it could be said to be very
efficient, but in practise it is efficient only if others are able to make use
of the gaps between
I and many others will never touch ALE because of
just one woman.
It at this time has a bad name among many.
Guess I better Google it to see just what
it is. Right now I have no clue.
At 05:40 PM 3/1/2010, you wrote:
The problem is that 14109 has been designated as 1 baud exclusive,
It has?
Jose
has K3TL said anything about his action?
Text deleted for a very good reason...
And some complained about pactor. Or Amtor.
John, W0JAB
Don't recall just when it came out but -
Biggest problem with it was finding someone to have a QSO with.
Once you did the link was very good. I think it was also used
by a lot of the early BBS stations. Of course that was the problem
with any ARQ mode that came along. Back in 1977 or so
when
No, never did work him but I did see a note in the log
to look for him on 20 meters.
At 09:31 AM 2/23/2010, you wrote:
I wonder if one of them was a friend of mine, Mike (G4SMA)?
He lived just up the hill from the MEB depot that I worked at when in my
late teens and I used to pop in to see
Not really Jim
I for one never stopped using the old machines.
Therefore never had to bring em back out.
It's the only way I do RTTY here.
John, W0JAB
Then I guess there are a few people
bringing old mechanical Teletype gear back to life and using it for
rag-chewing for old times' sake.
Jim
At 09:17 AM 2/21/2010, you wrote:
Thank you, Steinar, but there have been serious attempts to dominate the HF
bands with wideband modes for what is basically a private system use.
Do you think Skip that she will ever get it done?
I was told not long ago that they (she) was about to ask the
At 09:51 AM 2/21/2010, you wrote:
Actually John, I am beginning to think that there could be merit in
protecting some frequencies for certain use . Maybe the PACTOR, WINMOR,
PACKET, ALE, PSKMAIL, unattended stations SHOULD get a small slice of
spectrum.
And for the attended stations?
Actually Andy What we are using right now are a
few WinLink frequencies. Why you ask? because
every time we set camp anyplace someone will copy
the CW ID and them the hate email starts. Not to mention
the fact that AEL ran off a large bunch of people that
had been using everything from RTTY to
Ok so what if it is...
This is not the first time (nor will it be the last time)
that this has happen.
My question is where do they all come from?
Why would someone take the time to write the
program if it can't be used?
Ok what's the bottom line?
Is it or is it not?
At this time my in box is overloaded with ROS subjects.
And rather reading them all or deleting all
Can someone just tell me?
John, W0JAB
Just how many sound card modes are there now?
And what is the number that look just like another mode?
I have found it only around 14,109.
But like many many modes - it's not used much.
John, W0JAB
At 03:37 PM 2/19/2010, you wrote:
Lately I've been playing around with MT63 at the 500 hz bandwidth. It was
just about the only digital mode that I had not experimented with since
getting on the
RTTY should be used in the LSB mode regardless of the band.
I don't use software for RTTY so I cant tell you a thing about that.
Of course.
Not being a sound card guy when it comes to RTTY.
John, W0JAB
At 04:56 PM 2/19/2010, you wrote:
I use USB dfor FSK, simply because I want the low side of the signals to show
up on the left side of the waterfall, and the high frequencies to show up to
the right. Because that
At 06:58 PM 2/19/2010, you wrote:
even some of the AFSK/RTTY people use USB.
I have seen this too and at times wonder why.
I think maybe because the other modes are USB.
I got into RTTY in 1976. Still use a machine for RTTY.
Looks like someone has done their homework RTTY...
John, W0JAB
Still using a 28 ASR
At 10:30 AM 2/17/2010, you wrote:
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Sven sven9...@... wrote:
Hi,
I' ve searched the Internet for RTTY decoding methods and found the
following:
...
Are there other
At 05:02 PM 2/7/2010, you wrote:
With the long qsb faded outs on 500 Khz 60 seconds '
in' 20 'out sort of thing arq is the only way of having a qso ..
but most of the EU stations are limited to 100 Hz b/w ..
How do you deal with a limit like that?
At 10:40 PM 2/1/2010, you wrote in part:
but some of the other ARQ protocals I've played with look like a mess when
you're a station on the outside looking in...
I have never found that to be true with PACTOR or AMTOR.
Can't speak for the sound card ARQ modes.
At 11:21 AM 1/29/2010, you wrote: (in part)
: No serial connections and no external TNC please.
Is there a reason?
the last time I seem a real good multi path was back in the 19080's
while using amtor. really made a mess of things.
I would not mind getting looking into that again with all
the good software we now have.
Of course back then when I would talk about it the would ask
me if I have been smoking
www.digikey.com
At 12:46 PM 1/26/2010, you wrote:
I have a aea pk-88 tnc and a kenwood radio, they both have the same 8 pin male
connector, so I need to buy some female 8 pin connectors and wire it up.
Know of any good cheap sources (online) or in MA?
At 03:43 PM 1/26/2010, you wrote:
I thought of digikey or mouser, but what is the generic electronic part name
for it?
got me ! not having either one.
At 07:18 PM 1/24/2010, you wrote:
Re the control is to prevent ALE bashing
That control is a Gestapo, Marxist type. She will flat out tell you that she may
not be always right, but never wrong No one and I do mean no one can use
any other
mode on or near the frequency they use without getting
Anyone on this list have one of there rig's?
If so please get back to me.
Tnx, John, W0JAB
As the owner of 4 of them going back to the late
1970's let me jump in here for a bit.
Your answer depends on what you are looking to do with it.
I still use a program called YAPP for QSO's
John, W0JAB
At 12:07 PM 1/19/2010, you wrote:
Hello,
Now that the major issues with WINMOR
Ok - I see the point now.
guess I'm just getting slow.
I do have 3 of the PK-232MBX's and use them much.
One of them I got back in 1988 or so new for about
300 bucks. Used for the most part for AMTOR and
some what for HF and VFH packet.
Would be just the thing to run on my old 8088 system.
May
I guess that's because you Andy are the only one that I know
of that try's *every* new mode that comes down the pike.
I guess I really need to take a good look at some of the newer
sound card modes. I just got so turned off by that do nothing
PSK 31.
At 12:11 PM 1/9/2010, you wrote:
What a deal! Just the thing to run on your 8088 PC.
What are you trying to say?
AMTOR like PACTOR are ARQ modes.
Amtor does have a FEC mode to it. But it very hard
to find anyone using Amtor now days with all the
sound cards modes around today.
At 01:57 PM 1/3/2010, you wrote:
Listening just now on my xmas present, a Kenwood TH-F6A, on 10, 15, and 20m,
heard PLENTY of
May be workable in a large city but for those of us
that live in the rural areas, we would be taking to our self.
At 03:39 PM 1/2/2010, you wrote:
I'm curious to what is the reason for a lack of interest on VHF/UHF FM to do
anything other than talk on the local repeater.
At 05:01 PM 1/2/2010, you wrote:
We have a group on SSB here
Here being?
OK
forgive me for not being up to date on this but
in 100 words or less - what is RS ID?
Tnx - I think I still have that one laying around here someplace.
At 06:37 PM 12/28/2009, you wrote:
and if you need more than 100 words, see my description in November QST.
Andy K3UK
At 06:21 AM 12/27/2009, you wrote:
Hello to all Group Members...
I am new to the Group - a 74 Yr Old -just returning to Amateur Radio, after an
absence of nearly 40 years, licenced in 1956, when 'Digital' was just RTTY,
and using 'proper' Teleprinters - Such as the Creed 7B (Anyone remember
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