Re: [digitalradio] Message ID in multipsk

2009-11-02 Thread Patrick Lindecker
: Re: [digitalradio] Message ID in multipsk [5 Attachments] [Attachment(s) from Tony included below] Patrick, It certainly seems difficult to precisely measure digital mode SNR so thank you for explaining that. I think the PC sound card method is accurate enough to show the relative

Re: [digitalradio] Message ID in multipsk

2009-11-01 Thread Patrick Lindecker
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 12:44 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Message ID in multipsk Patrick, I think you are right about the burst characteristics of the mode and the way the PathSim software handles this. Seems logical since our SNR tests have been consistent

Re: [digitalradio] Message ID in multipsk [5 Attachments]

2009-11-01 Thread Tony
, 2009 5:09 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Message ID in multipsk Hello Tony, What software are you using to determine the SNR decode level? What i do is adding noise so as to reach a S/N=-15 dB. Then I see if it works (decode or not). According to the result, I will try -14 or -16 dB etc

Re: [digitalradio] Message ID in multipsk [2 Attachments]

2009-10-31 Thread Tony
Patrick, Just checked the peak amplitude of the RSID / Call ID clips and they are both within 0.2db of each other. These are the audio files I used to determine the 100% throughput SNR for each mode using PathSim. I am sending you the files so you can test them at your leisure. The RSID (Mode

Re: [digitalradio] Message ID in multipsk

2009-10-31 Thread Patrick Lindecker
to measure the signal-to-noise The Call ID S/N is not precise at all. It can only give an idea of the S/N value. 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: Tony To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 3:05 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Message ID in multipsk

Re: [digitalradio] Message ID in multipsk

2009-10-31 Thread Tony
Patrick, I think you are right about the burst characteristics of the mode and the way the PathSim software handles this. Seems logical since our SNR tests have been consistent with other modes. I have an audio editor that has the capability of adding white noise, but it doesn't indicate

Re: [digitalradio] Message ID in multipsk

2009-10-30 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Message ID in multipsk Patrick, Thanks for adding the messaging feature. Andy, K3UK, and I were able to copy Sholto's, RS messages some 3700km away on 20 meters. Sholto, K7TMG, was running 5 watts and a vertical antenna. We found the high sensitivity

Re: [digitalradio] Message ID in multipsk

2009-10-30 Thread Tony
- Original Message - From: Patrick Lindecker f6...@free.fr To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Message ID in multipsk Hello Tony, The Call ID that I just have slightly modified

[digitalradio] Message ID in multipsk

2009-10-29 Thread Steinar Aanesland
Hi all Anyone qrv on 20m ? I am testing the Message ID in Patrick's latest beta of the MULTIPSK (VERSION 4.16 of 27/10/2009) on 14.074. Hope to see you in the waterfall . 73 de LA5VNA Steinar

Re: [digitalradio] Message ID in multipsk

2009-10-29 Thread Tony
Steinar, I am testing the Message ID in Patrick's latest beta of the MULTIPSK (VERSION 4.16 of 27/10/2009) on 14.074. I haven't had the opportunity to use the message ID on-the-air, but I did test the mode between two PC's and it seems to work fine. I would assume the Reed Solomon

Re: [digitalradio] Message ID in multipsk

2009-10-29 Thread Steinar Aanesland
Tony The file is very small (12kb) but it will take abut 60min to send it over to you. I think I will abort.. la5vna Steinar Tony wrote: Steinar, I am testing the Message ID in Patrick's latest beta of the MULTIPSK (VERSION 4.16 of 27/10/2009) on 14.074. I haven't had the

Re: [digitalradio] Message ID in multipsk

2009-10-29 Thread Patrick Lindecker
: Thursday, October 29, 2009 5:11 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Message ID in multipsk Hi all Anyone qrv on 20m ? I am testing the Message ID in Patrick's latest beta of the MULTIPSK (VERSION 4.16 of 27/10/2009) on 14.074. Hope to see you in the waterfall . 73 de LA5VNA Steinar

Re: [digitalradio] Message ID in multipsk

2009-10-29 Thread Steinar Aanesland
I think I lost you Tony :( . No signal at all here. la5vna Steinar

Re: [digitalradio] Message ID in multipsk

2009-10-29 Thread Steinar Aanesland
It is really nice to see how well multipsk works under weak conditions la5vna Steinar Steinar Aanesland wrote: Tony The file is very small (12kb) but it will take abut 60min to send it over to you. I think I will abort.. la5vna Steinar Tony wrote: Steinar, I am

Re: [digitalradio] Message ID in multipsk

2009-10-29 Thread Steinar Aanesland
as :-) for Smile 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: Steinar Aanesland saa...@broadpark.no To: multi...@yahoogroups.com; * Digitalradio digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 5:11 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Message ID in multipsk Hi all Anyone qrv on 20m

Re: [digitalradio] Message ID in multipsk [2 Attachments]

2009-10-29 Thread Tony
- Original Message - From: Steinar Aanesland saa...@broadpark.no To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Message ID in multipsk Tony The file is very small (12kb) but it will take abut 60min to send it over to you. I think

AW: [digitalradio] Message ID in multipsk

2009-10-29 Thread Siegfried Jackstien
What qrg? _ Von: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] Im Auftrag von Steinar Aanesland Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. Oktober 2009 20:37 An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Betreff: Re: [digitalradio] Message ID in multipsk Hi Patrick I tested Message

Re: [digitalradio] Message ID in multipsk

2009-10-29 Thread Steinar Aanesland
PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Message ID in multipsk Tony The file is very small (12kb) but it will take abut 60min to send it over to you. I think I will abort.. la5vna Steinar Tony wrote: Steinar, I am testing the Message ID in Patrick's latest beta

Re: AW: [digitalradio] Message ID in multipsk

2009-10-29 Thread Steinar Aanesland
Hi Siegfried 14.074 but 20m seems to be dead now here up in the north :( la5vna Steinar Siegfried Jackstien wrote: What qrg?

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2009-10-29 Thread Siegfried Jackstien
Yep … it´s dark outside … so highbands are closed … _ Von: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] Im Auftrag von Steinar Aanesland Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. Oktober 2009 20:51 An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Betreff: Re: AW: [digitalradio] Message ID

Re: [digitalradio] Message ID in multipsk

2009-10-29 Thread Patrick Lindecker
-13 dB (however still better than PSK31). 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: Tony To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 7:52 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Message ID in multipsk Steinar, I am testing the Message ID in Patrick's

Re: [digitalradio] Message ID in multipsk

2009-10-29 Thread Tony
: Patrick Lindecker f6...@free.fr To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Message ID in multipsk Hello Tony, The Call ID that I just have slightly modified is based on a specific RS ID code (it was the most simple