Re: [digitalradio] Opposing 60M proposal

2010-05-13 Thread James French
On Tuesday 11 May 2010 05:12:07 you wrote: From: Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 Time: 21:18:20 I will probably suggest that they authorize PS31, MFSK16 and Winmor 500 if they are going to get mode specific. Andy K3UK Andy Does the FCC *really* have to specify

RE: [digitalradio] Opposing 60M proposal

2010-05-13 Thread Ed G
You have repeatedly used the term, Clog Up . Have you listened to 60M at all? I rarely hear ANY ham traffic on any of the 5 channels whenever I look. Given the light usage already in place, I do not see an issue with adding digital modes. Ed K7AAT

Re: [digitalradio] Opposing 60M proposal

2010-05-13 Thread Chris Jewell
James French writes: Can it be 'justified' to 'clog up' a new band with allowing ANY digital mode, and I am also including digitized voice into this, just to have it be there? Why not use what is already staged and developed and on the bands that already have the allocations? The

Re: [digitalradio] Opposing 60M proposal

2010-05-11 Thread Steinar Aanesland
Hi Andy Are you allowed to use a proprietary mode on the HAM band in US? In Norway we are not. la5vna Steinar On 11.05.2010 03:18, Andy obrien wrote: FYI, I plan to file a comment opposing the PIII on 60M proposal. My objections are PIII is a proprietary mode . PIII as used in non-busy

Re: [digitalradio] Opposing 60M proposal

2010-05-11 Thread Trevor .
The discussion regarding Pactor III has relevance to earlier discussions on this list concerning a new mode. Whether you like Pactor III or not it's clear the FCC permits US amateurs to use it and they regard the level of documention available on it to be adequate. I suspect the only concern

Re: [digitalradio] Opposing 60M proposal

2010-05-11 Thread Ian Wade G3NRW
From: Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 Time: 21:18:20 I will probably suggest that they authorize PS31, MFSK16 and Winmor 500 if they are going to get mode specific. Andy K3UK Andy Does the FCC *really* have to specify all the permissible modes? Surely all that's

Re: [digitalradio] Opposing 60M proposal

2010-05-11 Thread Steinar Aanesland
Trevor, thanks for your answer. Is it posible to monitor the content of a WINLINK transmission? As fare as I know the WINLINK data is compressed. I have never been able to monitor WINLINK with my SCS TNC. la5vna Steinar On 11.05.2010 10:56, Trevor . wrote: The discussion regarding

Re: [digitalradio] Opposing 60M proposal

2010-05-11 Thread Trevor .
Hi Steinar, I've never used WINLINK and know little about it but I'd imagine they use a standard and freely available compression algorithms. Perhaps someone else can comment. 73 Trevor M5AKA --- On Tue, 11/5/10, Steinar Aanesland saa...@broadpark.no wrote: Is it posible to monitor the

Re: [digitalradio] Opposing 60M proposal

2010-05-11 Thread KH6TY
The F6FBB BBS protocol is used. 73 - Skip KH6TY Trevor . wrote: Hi Steinar, I've never used WINLINK and know little about it but I'd imagine they use a standard and freely available compression algorithms. Perhaps someone else can comment. 73 Trevor M5AKA --- On Tue, 11/5/10,

[digitalradio] Opposing 60M proposal

2010-05-10 Thread Andy obrien
FYI, I plan to file a comment opposing the PIII on 60M proposal. My objections are PIII is a proprietary mode . PIII as used in non-busy detect Winkink system has been the leading cause of QRM complaints for the past 10 years, hence they are likely to cause the same for the primary services

Re: [digitalradio] Opposing 60M proposal

2010-05-10 Thread KH6TY
Why not just limit bandwidth of any emission to 500 Hz? 73 - Skip KH6TY Andy obrien wrote: FYI, I plan to file a comment opposing the PIII on 60M proposal. My objections are PIII is a proprietary mode . PIII as used in non-busy detect Winkink system has been the leading cause of QRM

Re: [digitalradio] Opposing 60M proposal

2010-05-10 Thread Dave Wright
I take that as a no to my question about whether Pactor III has ever been publicly documented. My understanding is that if it is not, then it isn't authorized for use on the amateur bands in the US. I'm not opposed to Pactor III, per se, but by my understanding it doesn't comply with the

Re: [digitalradio] Opposing 60M proposal

2010-05-10 Thread KH6TY
Dave, Of course Pactor-III has been publicly documented! wink See: http://www.scs-ptc.com/pactor/pactor However, it would take a judge in a court of law to decide if it has been adequately documented publicly. As far as it is known, nobody has been able to design a competing device to the SCS

RE: [digitalradio] Opposing 60M proposal

2010-05-10 Thread David Little
...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of KH6TY Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 9:22 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Opposing 60M proposal Why not just limit bandwidth of any emission to 500 Hz? 73 - Skip KH6TY Andy obrien wrote: FYI, I plan to file a comment