Re: [digitalradio] Re: There is a pattern in the ROS signal when idling

2010-03-01 Thread John B. Stephensen
The portions that are causing problems here aren't in the regulations in other countries. 73, John KD6OZH - Original Message - From: W2XJ To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 01:14 UTC Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: There is a pattern in the ROS

Re: [digitalradio] Re: There is a pattern in the ROS signal when idling

2010-02-28 Thread W2XJ
Skip Do you really think the FCC will put that much effort into this? They really want amateur radio to be self regulating. I think that people who bother the comish with such trivia degrades the hobby. When the administration of our activities become too burdensome, the FCC will be less inclined

Re: [digitalradio] Re: There is a pattern in the ROS signal when idling

2010-02-28 Thread KH6TY
Self-regulating means that we police ourselves and obey the rules on the honor system. It also might mean the Official Observers assist in regulations. Regulating means following rules, not interpreting them for our own benefit, but as accurately as possible. If you were the FCC and had

Re: [digitalradio] Re: There is a pattern in the ROS signal when idling

2010-02-28 Thread John B. Stephensen
The problem is that the FCC regulations are overly complex and people need a specialized engineering background to interpret some of them. 99% of the licensees probably can't interpret every word in the regulations so they ask for help in this forum when something is not clear. 73, John

Re: [digitalradio] Re: There is a pattern in the ROS signal when idling

2010-02-28 Thread W2XJ
A good portion of the FCC rules is almost cut and paste from ITU standards which apply worldwide. From: John B. Stephensen kd6...@comcast.net Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 01:02:44 - To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: There is a

Re: [digitalradio] Re: There is a pattern in the ROS signal when idling

2010-02-28 Thread W2XJ
I still do not think they will get involved. This is kindergarten politics and bad for our hobby. From: KH6TY kh...@comcast.net Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 15:09:57 -0500 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: There is a pattern in

[digitalradio] Re: There is a pattern in the ROS signal when idling

2010-02-27 Thread pa0r
SS uses pseudorandom codes to wag the carrier(s). EVERY pseudorandom code is repetitive, the length may vary. 73, Rein PA0R --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, KH6TY kh...@... wrote: That's a good analysis, Steinar. Is it possible to see if the pattern changes when sending data? That is

Re: [digitalradio] Re: There is a pattern in the ROS signal when idling

2010-02-27 Thread KH6TY
Thanks for the clarification, Rein. That agrees with what Steinar sees, and with the Wikipedia discussion, which says in part, Most pseudorandom generator algorithms produce sequences which are uniformly distributed /wiki/Uniform_distribution_%28discrete%29 by any of several tests. It is an