Re: [dmarc-ietf] Add MLS/MLM subscription/submissions controls to DMARCbis

2023-04-30 Thread Emanuel Schorsch
I want to ask about the "hollow victory" aspect and what would turn it into a more meaningful victory. If fromHeader rewriting is the damage we want to avoid it seems there's two options: 1) Have the mailingList make a decision based on what they know about the evaluator. This would need some

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Add MLS/MLM subscription/submissions controls to DMARCbis

2023-04-30 Thread Douglas Foster
Everything depends on an evaluator who trusts the alternate authentication protocol. We have at least three trust techniques: - local policy at evaluator - ARC set trusted by evaluator - ATPS trusted by evaluator. Until the list knows that the evaluator will accept the credentials, he has to

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Messages from the dmarc list for the week ending Sun Apr 30 06:00:04 2023

2023-04-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
On April 30, 2023 4:06:49 PM UTC, Hector iPhone6 wrote: > > >> On Apr 30, 2023, at 8:53 AM, Eliot Lear wrote: >> >>  >> >> >>> On 30.04.23 13:49, Hector Santos wrote: >>> What is the count based on? Is the count the amount of mail created since >>> the last date of this report which was

[dmarc-ietf] Add MLS/MLM subscription/submissions controls to DMARCbis

2023-04-30 Thread Hector Santos
> On Apr 29, 2023, at 4:42 PM, Douglas Foster > wrote: > > ... > > But I need to clarify whether I understand your point. What I am hearing is: > For the short term, mailing lists should refuse postings from DMARC-enforcing > domains. That position can be relaxed only if all

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Messages from the dmarc list for the week ending Sun Apr 30 06:00:04 2023

2023-04-30 Thread John Levine
It appears that Eliot Lear said: > >On 30.04.23 13:49, Hector Santos wrote: >> What is the count based on?  Is the count the amount of mail created >> since the last date of this report which was 1 week ago? >> >> Did Scott create 25 messages and myself 14 messages in one week? I >> don't

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Messages from the dmarc list for the week ending Sun Apr 30 06:00:04 2023

2023-04-30 Thread Hector iPhone6
> On Apr 30, 2023, at 8:53 AM, Eliot Lear wrote: > >  > > >> On 30.04.23 13:49, Hector Santos wrote: >> What is the count based on? Is the count the amount of mail created since >> the last date of this report which was 1 week ago? >> >> Did Scott create 25 messages and myself 14

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Messages from the dmarc list for the week ending Sun Apr 30 06:00:04 2023

2023-04-30 Thread Eliot Lear
On 30.04.23 13:49, Hector Santos wrote: What is the count based on?  Is the count the amount of mail created since the last date of this report which was 1 week ago? Did Scott create 25 messages and myself 14 messages in one week? I don't think so. I do. Here's what I learned after a few

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Messages from the dmarc list for the week ending Sun Apr 30 06:00:04 2023

2023-04-30 Thread Benny Pedersen
Hector Santos skrev den 2023-04-30 13:49: and i top posted once with one msg ? :=) can it be with extended info like DMARC,DKIM,ARC,SPF,ADSP you name it ? What is the count based on? Is the count the amount of mail created since the last date of this report which was 1 week ago? Did Scott

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Messages from the dmarc list for the week ending Sun Apr 30 06:00:04 2023

2023-04-30 Thread Hector Santos
What is the count based on? Is the count the amount of mail created since the last date of this report which was 1 week ago? Did Scott create 25 messages and myself 14 messages in one week? I don't think so. On 4/30/2023 5:59 AM, John Levine wrote: Count| Bytes | Who

[dmarc-ietf] Messages from the dmarc list for the week ending Sun Apr 30 06:00:04 2023

2023-04-30 Thread John Levine
Count| Bytes | Who ++--- 94 ( 100%) | 946980 ( 100%) | Total 25 (26.6%) | 200417 (21.2%) | Scott Kitterman 14 (14.9%) | 190300 (20.1%) | Hector Santos 12 (12.8%) | 81505 ( 8.6%) | Alessandro Vesely 9 ( 9.6%) | 102937 (10.9%) | Jesse