Re: [dmarc-ietf] easier DKIM, DMARC2 & SPF Dependency Removal

2023-06-24 Thread Jan Dušátko
Hector, I think Levin's original suggestion to use the setting option like SPF AND DKIM, SPF OR DKIM, SPF only, DKIM only is excellent. It could solve a lot of problems. System administrators know best how to set up their system and for what purposes they need that setting. I can imagine a

Re: [dmarc-ietf] easier DKIM, DMARC2 & SPF Dependency Removal

2023-06-24 Thread Hector Santos
> If the DMARC spec makes that clear, I think we win. And recipients > can still do what they want: if DMARCbis goes out with "use DKIM only" > and a recipient wants to use SPF anyway, they can do that... just as a > recipient that decides to use best-guess-SPF in the absence of actual > SPF

Re: [dmarc-ietf] easier DKIM, DMARC2 & SPF Dependency Removal

2023-06-24 Thread Hector Santos
Alessandro, I believe we are on the same wave. I support the DMARC1 tag extension `auth=‘ idea. Do you have any suggestions for the text? Technically we don’t need DMARC1-Bis. That document can move forward as is and a new draft proposal I-D called “DMARC1-EXTENSION-AUTH” can be written

Re: [dmarc-ietf] easier DKIM, DMARC2 & SPF Dependency Removal

2023-06-24 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Fri 23/Jun/2023 20:13:27 +0200 Hector Santos wrote: On Jun 23, 2023, at 12:52 PM, John R Levine wrote: On Thu, 22 Jun 2023, Emanuel Schorsch wrote: I agree with John's point that dkim+spf doesn't make sense in the context of strict DMARC enforcement (I think it provides value for p=none

Re: [dmarc-ietf] easier DKIM, DMARC2 & SPF Dependency Removal

2023-06-24 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Fri 23/Jun/2023 22:56:59 +0200 Barry Leiba wrote: If the DMARC spec makes that clear, I think we win. And recipients can still do what they want: if DMARCbis goes out with "use DKIM only" and a recipient wants to use SPF anyway, they can do that... just as a recipient that decides to use