Re: [dmarc-ietf] Another point for SPF advice

2024-03-08 Thread Hector Santos
I believe it is correct, SHOULD strive to trusted known sources. The final mechanism SHOULD be one of (hard) failure. This is what we (ideally) strive for. I believe anything weaker is a waste of computational resources, causes confusion using neutral or even soft fails especially with

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Section 9.5 DMARC Report Format Registry

2024-03-08 Thread Tim Wicinski
Generally they will leave it and mark Obsolete. This should be called out in the RFC. (I have not looked right now). tim On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 11:42 AM Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 6:49 AM Alessandro Vesely wrote: > >> since we removed the rf= tag (format of failure

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Section 9.5 DMARC Report Format Registry

2024-03-08 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 6:49 AM Alessandro Vesely wrote: > since we removed the rf= tag (format of failure reports), do we still > need to tackle the IANA registry? Since we only use one format, it > makes little sense. However, the registry actually exists. Is it > possible to delete or

[dmarc-ietf] SHOULD (was Re: Another point for SPF advice)

2024-03-08 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
Heads up that I'm going to be looking carefully at use of "SHOULD" throughout the document when it comes to AD Evaluation. An example that gave me pause: On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 6:30 AM Alessandro Vesely wrote: > in section 5.5.1, Publish an SPF Policy for an Aligned Domain, the last > sentence

[dmarc-ietf] Section 9.5 DMARC Report Format Registry

2024-03-08 Thread Alessandro Vesely
Hi, since we removed the rf= tag (format of failure reports), do we still need to tackle the IANA registry? Since we only use one format, it makes little sense. However, the registry actually exists. Is it possible to delete or obsolete it, or does it have to stay there as a relict for

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis WGLC Significant(ish) Issue - Section 7.6

2024-03-08 Thread Todd Herr
On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 4:52 AM Alessandro Vesely wrote: > On 06/03/2024 15:42, Todd Herr wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 10:45 PM Barry Leiba > wrote: > > > >> SHOULD NOT was the consensus call, and the correction Todd > >> proposes is just making that sentence consistent with that. > > >

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Another point for SPF advice

2024-03-08 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On 05/03/2024 17:07, Scott Kitterman wrote: On March 5, 2024 3:46:39 PM UTC, Alessandro Vesely wrote: Todd Herr writes: On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 9:30 AM Alessandro Vesely wrote: in section 5.5.1, Publish an SPF Policy for an Aligned Domain, the last sentence says:

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis WGLC Significant(ish) Issue - Section 7.6

2024-03-08 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On 06/03/2024 15:42, Todd Herr wrote: On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 10:45 PM Barry Leiba wrote: SHOULD NOT was the consensus call, and the correction Todd proposes is just making that sentence consistent with that. Yet, Section 7.6 still has: In particular, this document makes explicit that