Re: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-aggregate-reporting-09.txt

2023-04-28 Thread Douglas Foster
I was not proposing what other people should do, nor was I proposing a standards change. I was just observing that we always have choices (with supporting software.) In this case, if a remote correspondent cannot do acceptable TLS encryption, then the local correspondent always has the option

Re: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-aggregate-reporting-09.txt

2023-04-28 Thread Hector Santos
Douglas, In general, you can’t impose or mandate TLS under PORT 25 unsolicited, unauthenticated sessions. You can do this with ESMTP AUTH a.k.a SUBMISSION Protocol (RFC6409) which is Port 587. Under this port, you can mandate more Authentication/Authorization and mail format correctness than

Re: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-aggregate-reporting-09.txt

2023-04-27 Thread Douglas Foster
There are options on TLS failure. Mandatory TLS is actually pretty common, since PCI DSS, HIPAA and GDBR have all been interpreted as requiring TLS on email.For outbound mail, our MTA is configured to drop the connection if encryption cannot be established. I think this configuration option

Re: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-aggregate-reporting-09.txt

2023-04-25 Thread Scott Kitterman
On April 25, 2023 5:31:41 PM UTC, Benny Pedersen wrote: >John R. Levine skrev den 2023-04-25 18:28: Since the only mechanism is mail and nobody's going to S/MIME encrypt their reports, I suggest just deleting it. >>> >>> TLS vs not TLS. >> >> I suppose, but that's not up to the

Re: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-aggregate-reporting-09.txt

2023-04-25 Thread Benny Pedersen
John R. Levine skrev den 2023-04-25 18:28: Since the only mechanism is mail and nobody's going to S/MIME encrypt their reports, I suggest just deleting it. TLS vs not TLS. I suppose, but that's not up to the report sender. If I say "rua=mailto:rep...@cruddy.org;, and the MX for cruddy.org

Re: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-aggregate-reporting-09.txt

2023-04-25 Thread John R. Levine
Since the only mechanism is mail and nobody's going to S/MIME encrypt their reports, I suggest just deleting it. TLS vs not TLS. I suppose, but that's not up to the report sender. If I say "rua=mailto:rep...@cruddy.org;, and the MX for cruddy.org doesn't do STARTTLS, what are you going to

Re: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-aggregate-reporting-09.txt

2023-04-25 Thread Dotzero
On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 10:18 PM John R. Levine wrote: > > I removed the small section that faced objections. > > > > I updated the ridtxt definition and discovered that mmark was making a > mess of those asterisks. When there are more than one/some on a single > line, it believes you would

Re: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-aggregate-reporting-09.txt

2023-04-24 Thread John R. Levine
2023 7:39 PM To: i-d-annou...@ietf.org Cc: dmarc@ietf.org Subject: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-aggregate-reporting-09.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This Internet-Draft is a work item of the Domain-based Message Authentication, Rep

Re: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-aggregate-reporting-09.txt

2023-04-24 Thread Scott Kitterman
arc On Behalf Of internet-dra...@ietf.org > > Sent: Monday, April 24, 2023 7:39 PM > > To: i-d-annou...@ietf.org > > Cc: dmarc@ietf.org > > Subject: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: > > draft-ietf-dmarc-aggregate-reporting-09.txt > > > > > > A New Inter

Re: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-aggregate-reporting-09.txt

2023-04-24 Thread Brotman, Alex
Brotman Sr. Engineer, Anti-Abuse & Messaging Policy Comcast > -Original Message- > From: dmarc On Behalf Of internet-dra...@ietf.org > Sent: Monday, April 24, 2023 7:39 PM > To: i-d-annou...@ietf.org > Cc: dmarc@ietf.org > Subject: [dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-

[dmarc-ietf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-aggregate-reporting-09.txt

2023-04-24 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This Internet-Draft is a work item of the Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting & Conformance (DMARC) WG of the IETF. Title : DMARC Aggregate Reporting Author : Alex Brotman